Sleeveless muscle shirts just look …unprofessional to me in a tennis tournament.

[Rosstour]

I don't like the appearance, for men at 500 and above should be banned. Would the Masters or US Open golf tournaments allow shorts? No. Going sleeveless, unthinkable.

Would tennis allow you to use a cart? No, so stop projecting the rules of a GAME onto the demands of an actual SPORT

 

[optic yellow]

What a chad you are legend

Phenomenal choice of shoes as well

It's so hilarious to me how New Balance are considered stylish and cool now.

 

[optic yellow]

Would tennis allow you to use a cart? No, so stop projecting the rules of a GAME onto the demands of an actual SPORT

Neither Augusta National Golf Club nor the USGA permits competitors the use of a cart outside of specific rarely applicable physical conditions.

 

[Rosstour]

Neither Augusta National Golf Club nor the USGA permits competitors the use of a cart outside of specific rarely applicable physical conditions.

That's great, but you can still play the game in slacks and a belt, and tuck in your shirt...meanwhile tennis is one of the most demanding sports on earth, and it's silly to say "this wouldn't fly in golf so we can't do it in tennis"

Tennis is historically much more of a gentleman's game than golf ever was, so the premise that we should look up to golf for etiquette issues is just laughable.

 

[optic yellow]

That's great, but you can still play the game in slacks and a belt, and tuck in your shirt...meanwhile tennis is one of the most demanding sports on earth, and it's silly to say "this wouldn't fly in golf so we can't do it in tennis"

Tennis is historically much more of a gentleman's game than golf ever was, so the premise that we should look up to golf for etiquette issues is just laughable.

bruv pls

 

[Rosstour]

bruv pls

Where's the lie?

 

[mtommer]

It's so hilarious to me how New Balance are considered stylish and cool now.

Interesting because by and large they were pretty niche. The brand has put a lot of effort into becoming more relevant and it seems to be paying off to some degree. Kudos to NB.

 

[optic yellow]

Where's the lie?

The part in bold.

Interesting because by and large they were pretty niche. The brand has put a lot of effort into becoming more relevant and it seems to be paying off to some degree. Kudos to NB.

Exactly! Not sure how they accomplished it. I just suddenly realized I was noticing influencers and like types unironically wearing them.

 

[Rosstour]

The part in bold.


Exactly! Not sure how they accomplished it. I just suddenly realized I was noticing influencers and other types like that wearing them unironically.

Have never heard anyone call golf the "Sport of Kings"

 

[optic yellow]

Have never heard anyone call golf the "Sport of Kings"

You don't seem to have much exposure to golf in general though. It's three centuries younger than tennis and a bit more niche for longer but neither of these reflect the striking terms of disparity you attempted to use.

 

[jmacdaununder2]

If you sweat so much where are your wrist bands? How do hold onto the racket? You look gym ready but not tennis ready

Maybe he’s soo much cooler in a singlet that the wrist band necessity threshold hasn’t been reached?

 

[recreationalplayer]

Would tennis allow you to use a cart? No, so stop projecting the rules of a GAME onto the demands of an actual SPORT

no thank you, yours is a ridiculous analogy, indeed it is a matter of taste and in your case, we see where it lies. are cargo shorts next?

 

[bobeeto]

It's so hilarious to me how New Balance are considered stylish and cool now.

Cause they decided they wanted to make stylish and cool performance shoes, ever since the Klaw 1’s it’s been fire

 

[Notorious_Junkballer]

The only sleeveless that should be allowed, if not obligated, is a knitted cotton vest on a matching pike t-shirt. I miss those times.

 

[Rosstour]

I'm a snob but some of you are going too far lol

There ARE occasions where I wouldn't wear one. But a public court or my health club, wouldn't think twice.

 

[Nole Ivanisevic]

Polo Shirt,the only way for me.But for Shelton and Zverev+Tiafoe,it is okay(ish)to wear it.I think Nadal was the first one.

 

[optic yellow]

I'm a snob but some of you are going too far lol

There ARE occasions where I wouldn't wear one. But a public court or my health club, wouldn't think twice.

Yeah fr lol. Golf is no different, acceptable uniform and decorum changes based on venue.

 

[tennisandtennis]

If you sweat so much where are your wrist bands? How do hold onto the racket? You look gym ready but not tennis ready

Hands don't really sweat and it's a bit of a miracle. I only had grip-slip issues in peak NY heat/humidity.

The rest of me looks like I'm in baby oil. I play in a very humid climate (for ten months of the year). Winters here are like playing in a cold sauna. My hands somehow stay dry. Makes no sense.

 

[tennisandtennis]

It's so hilarious to me how New Balance are considered stylish and cool now.

White shoes and white socks on a fit physique can only be undone by old-man pickleball shoes. The Cocos are not that. They're adjacent, but somehow stylish. High tops are in.

 

[vsbabolat]

Hands don't really sweat and it's a bit of a miracle. I only had grip-slip issues in peak NY heat/humidity.

The rest of me looks like I'm in baby oil. I play in a very humid climate (for ten months of the year). Winters here are like playing in a cold sauna. My hands somehow stay dry. Makes no sense.

The sweat doesn’t roll down your arms? It’s gravity.

 

[tennisandtennis]

The sweat doesn’t roll down your arms? It’s gravity.

I guess I don't swing hard enough for centrifugal force to work. But seriously, my palms don't get sweaty. I do have to wipe the rest of me down.

 

[vsbabolat]

I guess I don't swing hard enough for centrifugal force to work. But seriously, my palms don't get sweaty. I do have to wipe the rest of me down.

Wrist bands don’t prevent your hands from sweating. Wrist bands prevent the sweat from running down your arms due to gravity to your hands. It creates a barrier to stop the sweat from reaching your hands. I guess you don’t really sweat then and your excuse for wearing a sleeveless gym shirt is just that an excuse.

 

[CHillTennis]

The only people who don't like the sleevesless look are the people who can't pull it off.

 

[optic yellow]

The only people who don't like the sleevesless look are the people who can't pull it off.

For me the backwards cap is more obnoxious.

(no offense @Rosstour )

 

[Rosstour]

For me the backwards cap is more obnoxious.

(no offense @Rosstour )

I'm not big on the backwards hat myself, firstly bc I can't serve with it worn that way

 

[tennisandtennis]

The only people who don't like the sleevesless look are the people who can't pull it off.

I lick the tears from their cheeks

 

[tennisandtennis]

For me the backwards cap is more obnoxious.

(no offense @Rosstour )

I have long hair and play indoors. Why would I need to wear it forwards?

Is this, like, boomer grievance culture?

 

[optic yellow]

I have long hair and play indoors. Why would I need to wear it forwards?

Is this, like, boomer grievance culture?

No I'm not a boomer it just gives off the trying too hard to feel cool vibe.

 

[Bill Lobsalot]

If the suns out, the guns are out.

 

[mtommer]

No I'm not a boomer it just gives off the trying too hard to feel cool vibe.

Interesting perspective. Why would wearing a hat backwards have anything to do with feeling cool? I wear my hats backwards. Not once have I ever thought about how it would be perceived by others nor do I care.

 

[Rosstour]

Interesting perspective. Why would wearing a hat backwards have anything to do with feeling cool? I wear my hats backwards. Not once have I ever thought about how it would be perceived by others nor do I care.

Well then why even wear it backwards? It's way less practical than forwards

 

[mtommer]

Well then why even wear it backwards? It's way less practical than forwards

Because I like too. Why do I like chocolate chip cookies? Because I do. I don't need a rationalization or justification. Maybe you feel there's supposed to be one and that's why you think people are projecting forth something they're most likely not doing?

 

[CHillTennis]

No I'm not a boomer it just gives off the trying too hard to feel cool vibe.

No it doesn't.

 

[CHillTennis]

Well then why even wear it backwards? It's way less practical than forwards

Bro, you've got a picture of a guy wearing his hat backwards in your avatar...

What sense does that even make?

 

[Rosstour]

Because I like too. Why do I like chocolate chip cookies? Because I do. I don't need a rationalization or justification. Maybe you feel there's supposed to be one and that's why you think people are projecting forth something they're most likely not doing?

I'm giving you the opportunity to prove them wrong but you haven't done it yet

 

[CHillTennis]

Well then why even wear it backwards? It's way less practical than forwards

Man-bunli wears his hat backwards.

 

[Rosstour]

Man-bunli wears his hat backwards.

I've not articulated a position sir

I just asked a question--if it's not about aesthetics then why turn the hat?

Here's my position: If players feel it looks good on them, then they should do it. And it does look good on some players. I just think it's a little bit of a stretch to say "I just do things bc I like them" when there is an obvious level of vanity to almost everything we do re presentation (car, clothes, grooming/hair etc)

 

[CHillTennis]

I've not articulated a position sir

I just asked a question--if it's not about aesthetics then why turn the hat?

Here's my position: If players feel it looks good on them, then they should do it. And it does look good on some players. I just think it's a little bit of a stretch to say "I just do things bc I like them" when there is an obvious level of vanity to almost everything we do re presentation (car, clothes, grooming/hair etc)

If a person is wearing something because they like them, or they like to wear them, then isn't it logical to assume that they think they look good by wearing them?

 

[CHillTennis]

If the suns out, the guns are out.

Well said!

 

[Rosstour]

If a person is wearing something because they like them, or they like to wear them, then isn't it logical to assume that they think they look good by wearing them?

I would think so yeah

But you're actually kinda proving the point of the ppl who think it looks "try hard"

So I'm wondering where the actual disagreement is lol

 

[optic yellow]

Interesting perspective. Why would wearing a hat backwards have anything to do with feeling cool? I wear my hats backwards. Not once have I ever thought about how it would be perceived by others nor do I care.

This the vibe it gives off.

 

[CHillTennis]

I would think so yeah

But you're actually kinda proving the point of the ppl who think it looks "try hard"

So I'm wondering where the actual disagreement is lol

I don't think that there is a point of disagreement.

Unless, you're concerned about how you will be perceived by dressing that way.

 

[CHillTennis]

This the vibe it gives off.

That's a good thing.

If I knew that it actually offended someone, I'd probably wear my hat backwards for every single match.

 

[Rosstour]

I don't think that there is a point of disagreement.

Unless, you're concerned about how you will be perceived by dressing that way.

Clearly our sleeveless/backwards cap friend thinks he looks good that way and I'm inclined to agree

He shouldn't have any shame in it is sort of where I'm going with this

Flexing doesn't bother me, just don't tell me you're not flexing!

 

[mtommer]

If a person is wearing something because they like them, or they like to wear them, then isn't it logical to assume that they think they look good by wearing them?

No. You're stating an assumption which may be accurate or it may not be. The assumption rules out other avenues of possibility that are just as valid or moreso. I like cycling. Do you think I wear cycling clothing because it makes me look good? I wear it because it's more comfortable for cycling. I look ridiculous in cycling clothing.

 

[mtommer]

I just think it's a little bit of a stretch to say "I just do things bc I like them" when there is an obvious level of vanity to almost everything we do re presentation (car, clothes, grooming/hair etc)

Ah, I see. You're projecting this, because for you, there is that level and you can't perceive that this just isn't the case for everyone. Um, okay. I get it. It's not an abnormal behavior. So believe as you'd like. *shrug*

 

[CHillTennis]

No. You're stating an assumption which may be accurate or it may not be. The assumption rules out other avenues of possibility that are just as valid or moreso. I like cycling. Do you think I wear cycling clothing because it makes me look good? I wear it because it's more comfortable for cycling. I look ridiculous in cycling clothing.

Wearing cycling clothes is a different deal, altogether. I understand that you probably have to wear cycling clothes, if you're a serious competitor.

Having your hat on backwards is a complete personal preference.

There is no reason why you have to do it. You do it because you want to.

 

[CHillTennis]

Watching Zverev right now in the semifinals of the French Open. Skinny guy wearing what we used to call a muscle shirt just looks so white trailer trash to me. For the weekend warrior behind the junior high hitting and shanking balls, not for a major professional tennis tournament. A wife beater we call them, because every guy getting arrested on tv for beating his wife….is in cuffs wearing one.

We don’t even allow them at my club, even on the outside courts. A guy asked our pro why he couldn’t wear one, the pro said, “trust me, no one wants to see you in a sleeveless shirt”.

Van Halen is great!

This thread is not.

 

[Rosstour]

Ah, I see. You're projecting this, because for you, there is that level and you can't perceive that this just isn't the case for everyone. Um, okay. I get it. It's not an abnormal behavior. So believe as you'd like. *shrug*

Of course there is that level or else we would all dress like Mannarino

"I just do it bc I like it", obviously there is a reason you like it, no?

 

[onehandbh]

How about sideways hat? Is that ok?
If the sun is coming from the side, sometimes I rotate my hat to block the sun. I shift it like a sundial but for blocking the sun.