Relinquis
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well played...
"Sloane Stephens blasts Serena Williams"
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THUNDERVOLLEY
G.O.A.T.
The film has been pulled from the screens. Reason: It was a retread of something you probably saw last summer...and the summer before that...and...
jones101
Hall of Fame
Sloane has gone on RECORD to say that Serena never mentored her, just generally chatted in lockeroom and BBM.
Serena has stated she never mentored Sloane, just friendly chats etc.
Why is Sloane so pressed that Serena distanced herself from her, they are competitors, not BFF's in a schoolyard.
Serena has stated she never mentored Sloane, just friendly chats etc.
Why is Sloane so pressed that Serena distanced herself from her, they are competitors, not BFF's in a schoolyard.
THUNDERVOLLEY
G.O.A.T.
She's bought into the "i'm not like Serena" / character assassination propaganda used by factions in U.S tennis and certain fans, so she's living to establish herself with drama.
She has no game, so without this BS, she will fade into the background.
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THUNDERVOLLEY
G.O.A.T.
Funny...someone in this thread insists on saying SW was her mentor...
Character assassination is her game, but with each passing day, it seems to be backfiring.
FlashFlare11
Hall of Fame
With all the followers Sloane has, I'm surprised she even noticed that Serena "unfollwed" her. Twitter doesn't notify you when someone removes you from their "follow" list. BBM is different. It's more personal so no surprise there.
This is rather surprising, if true. I thought Serena would be proud that such a young, talented player like Sloane looked up to her like a mentor.
It seems pretty clear that Sloane doesn't really look up to Serena.
Varvara Lepchenko @Varunchik1 5 May
@serenawilliams So humble girl.Called me this morning for warm up.This is how champions behave!!!
Yes, and it will all come back around to Sloane.
Her true character will be even more obviously revealed at some point in her career and people with long memories will remember this and know that she deserves exactly what she reaps.
Relinquis
Hall of Fame
this is all probably some PR type thing... WTA, TMZ style...
Do they use the same agency by any chance?
Also, has this been posted yet? Golden stuff... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YtbnZviyRjw
Even her coach is struggling to hold back a smile...
Do they use the same agency by any chance?
Also, has this been posted yet? Golden stuff... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YtbnZviyRjw
Even her coach is struggling to hold back a smile...
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vandre
Hall of Fame
maybe its just me but there's always been friction between tennis players. having 2 tennis players on the court is like having 2 lead singers in the same band. to be a pro tennis player requires a very strong ego. if you were a shrinking violet, you wouldn't have made it to the tour. anytime you get 2 people with strong egos around, there's a possibility for friction. you've got one player trying to demonstrate that she's still the queen bee and another player trying to demonstrate that she doesn't buy it and isn't phased by it. anytime there's been 2 generations of pros there's been a bit of friction between them, particularly if there are 2 similar players (see agassi & connors). maybe the difference is jimbo and aa couldn't take to twitter and bad mouth each other but that doesn't mean that everything was necessarily rosy in "the good ole days".
heftylefty
Hall of Fame
If any wta player is a student of the game, she would have learned the less bulletin broad material for Serena Williams the better. Sloan is just stoking the flames.
Dumb rookie move.
Dumb rookie move.
"Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt" ---- Abraham Lincoln (reportedly)
Sloane has said some pretty foolish things in my opinion that have me suspecting that she lacks common sense. Obviously she didn't take the long term view when she made these statements. With the current state of her tennis game how does this barrage of nonsense from her mouth help her in any way? Why does airing your personal dislike of any player in the media help her get out of her funk so she can make it past the first round of a tournament? And how does whining at the age of 20 that because the Williams sisters didn't sign your poster when you were 12 make you a better tennis player? She comes off very petty and immature.
I also don't get her hang up of being de-friended? If indeed that did happen the smart thing to do would be to laugh it off because you got into Serena's mind. But no, Sloane decides to vent to media this silliness. People all over the world de-friend friends and family members all the time on Facebook. I was pretty neutral about Sloane. I wished her well and hoped that she could take the mantle from the William sisters but now I don't know. Maybe she'll grow up.
Sloane has said some pretty foolish things in my opinion that have me suspecting that she lacks common sense. Obviously she didn't take the long term view when she made these statements. With the current state of her tennis game how does this barrage of nonsense from her mouth help her in any way? Why does airing your personal dislike of any player in the media help her get out of her funk so she can make it past the first round of a tournament? And how does whining at the age of 20 that because the Williams sisters didn't sign your poster when you were 12 make you a better tennis player? She comes off very petty and immature.
I also don't get her hang up of being de-friended? If indeed that did happen the smart thing to do would be to laugh it off because you got into Serena's mind. But no, Sloane decides to vent to media this silliness. People all over the world de-friend friends and family members all the time on Facebook. I was pretty neutral about Sloane. I wished her well and hoped that she could take the mantle from the William sisters but now I don't know. Maybe she'll grow up.
THUNDERVOLLEY
G.O.A.T.
But that only creates friction when the two lead singers are of equal or near equal ability, so there's a true test of power within the group. In this case, it is more like a major legend/star, and on the other side an amateur who dresses up as a singer on weekends, somehow thinking the true star needs to recognize her.
Insane and self-defeating to be sure.
The key difference in your example is that Agassi was seen by many as being the next generation / successor to Connors with more heat--there was a recognized talent to compare. No one in the known universe thinks Stephens is going to be another generation-leading powerhouse like Serena, nor is Stephens' questionable ability bear any resemblance to Serena's many tennis talents. On that note, if anyone draws any similarities between the two, it has nothing to do with their tennis skills or personalities.
dudeski
Hall of Fame
Same racists who never have any problems with Sloane, Blake, Tsonga, Monfils? Are you sure this is about race and not about Serena's disgusting personality?
Relinquis
Hall of Fame
it's a marketing thing... there is a part of the market that hates williams, for whatever reason, they will now see in stephens a way to express this...
she's "nice", and "polite" and such... and most importantly, she doesn't mope the floor with the rest of the tour so much that it makes one wonder if the W in WTA stands for Williams...
she's "nice", and "polite" and such... and most importantly, she doesn't mope the floor with the rest of the tour so much that it makes one wonder if the W in WTA stands for Williams...
vandre
Hall of Fame
being de-friended is indeed a silly thing to get hung up on and may say something about her frame of mind.
I don't see it this way. What I see is a slumping player who will now be hounded by the media about what she said in this article. And since it seems that Sloane appears to be easily distracted by social media, being friended and de-friended, venting her frustrations to the media, her game will continue to suffer.
Also, who in the WTA will stand in solidarity with her? The locker room may become a lonely place. It's one thing to go after, maybe Laura Robson who is closer in stature to Sloane. But she took on Serena, winner of 15 grand slam singles, I don't even know how many slam doubles, 2 time Olympic gold singles and doubles, highest prize money earner in women's sports, etc. I think that there a lot of WTA players who don't like Serena but you better believe that they certainly respect her. I think that it is ironic that Sloane was calling Serena disrespectful earlier this year when in fact Sloane was the one who is disrespectful. Don't air this stuff in the media. If you have a problem you talk to the person one on one. Or you wait until you have retired with 3 or more slams and reveal it in your tell all autobiography.
Serena tweets all the time. What are you talking about
pug
Semi-Pro
Sw only loses when she is injured?.........lol she can always blame it on the bar - foot
Comparisons are not valid. None of them are African-American women who are at the top of their profession. The dynamic is completely different. With success will come ego (like Fed and Djokovic), and unpleasant situations, and those will elicit a totally different kind of reaction compared to when you are a nobody. If the Williams sisters had never played at the top level in IW, nothing would have happened.
Relinquis
Hall of Fame
i agree with you. It's odd though. Makes me wonder if this is a marketing thing. A way for her to build a brand around being the anti-Serena or something. It's PR, no?
Mick
Legend
the next time they play each other, Serena will mentor Sloane on how to make some bagels :shock:
THUNDERVOLLEY
G.O.A.T.
the next time they play each other, Serena will mentor Sloane on how to make some bagels :shock:
...only for Stephens to go straight to Twitter and complain about being "abused" because she was not allowed to win a single game.
Loser.
THUNDERVOLLEY
G.O.A.T.
Seems like quite a few people have big problems with the very few black pro tennis players. Quite a few disparaging posts about Serena, Tsonga, Monfils (clown thread), Young, etc.
And if Tsonga, Monfils, and Young were winning Grand Slams the hatred would be even more vociferous and frequent.
Well she is certainly the anti-Serena in terms of her match record.
Serena rarely loses, and Sloane rarely wins.
Relinquis
Hall of Fame
i think you are ill informed... isn't their head to head even at a win each?
Tanya
Hall of Fame
Soianka said match record not head to head.
pug
Semi-Pro
I dont hate her, but you fanboys and girls gush and fawn over her like she is something special and can do no wrong. Your shocking ability to over -look her bad behavior is sad. She wants to be a queen but she is just a serving girl, he he. Get it..........serving girl bwaaaaaahaaahhaaaa
The words "no comment" come to mind. Sloane may find that her 15 minutes are just about up. Anybody know what Oudin is doing these days?
AngieB
Banned
In Sloane's defense (if you call it that), you should take into consideration that she is still an immature, impressionable young adult. Her responses seem almost juvenile in nature. She will most likely look back at this situation years from now and regret some of her comments.
AngieB
AngieB
Very true indeed. There is going to be some fallout over this and Sloane has not proven to be very good at letting things go. The media is going to be all over her and I'm sure the other players aren't going to be too friendly after this. She comes off as a spoiled, privileged brat and Serena has a ton of fans so it isn't going to help her be a crowd or player favorite. This is exactly what she needed at a time when she cant win a match to save her life.
bluetrain4
G.O.A.T.
Even if she's "just being honest", what good does this do Sloane to make this public? Serena doesn't care. It won't affect her. She's always had lots of detractors and "haters" whether for completely legitimate reasons or completely stupid reasons. She's a seasoned pro in all ways and used to dealing with things like this. This simply won't bother Serena. But, it could really be a distraction to Sloane who will now have to answer questions about it while in the midst of a substantial slump. And, until she has another "big" result, it will be what she's known for. Not smart, IMO.
Vlad_C
Semi-Pro
She unfollowed her on Twitter?!!??
OMG.
That must feel like the ultimate insult to poor little girl Sloane.
I mean, how hurt would she be if she found out that there are billions of people on this planet who never followed her on twitter in the first place, and who in fact never even gave a f about twitter or anyone on it.
OMG.
That must feel like the ultimate insult to poor little girl Sloane.
I mean, how hurt would she be if she found out that there are billions of people on this planet who never followed her on twitter in the first place, and who in fact never even gave a f about twitter or anyone on it.
If it's PR, Sloane needs to fire that PR team pronto! Bad decision, bad move. According to the article, Sloane's mother tried to stop her from making those remarks but Sloane brushed her aside and went full steam ahead. This along with her still harboring grudges against the William Sisters for not signing her poster and against Gilles Simon for allegedly hitting her with a ball when she was a ball girl shows that she is impulsive and can't let go of stuff. Instead of working on her tennis game her head is going to be filled with all this crap.
I always found that some people who like to talk a lot can sometimes put their foot in their mouths. Sometimes silence is golden.
THUNDERVOLLEY
G.O.A.T.
Yeah, you hate her, since you often post unsubstantiated, negative crap about her in this and other threads, such as the following from the 1st Stephens/Twitter thread:
Even in the face of evidence to counter anything you post, you ignore it in order to stay on the same hate-Serena path of offensive ranting.
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BreakPoint
Bionic Poster
ROTFLMAO!!! :lol:
Or maybe Roger and Serena versus Grigor and Sloane? The originals versus the 2.0 versions?
fluffyyelloballz
Rookie
oh dear..the next time these two meet it's going to be ugly for Sloane...Please let it be at Roland Garros!
SLD76
G.O.A.T.
iIve said it once and Ill say it again Serena's so called "bad behavior" is treated like a crime against humanity.
No one hardly says a peep about azarenka's clear arrogance.
And also, players like connors and mcenroe made yelling at umpires an art form and they are beloved for being "bad boys"
yet somehow with serena it isnt allowed or permitted
Steve0904
Talk Tennis Guru
Connors and McEnroe are not valid comparisons since times have changed. If Federer or Nadal or Djokovic went around doing what Connors and McEnroe did these days they'd get roasted over the coals make no mistake.
I can't say I like Serenea tbh. Her attitude does rub me the wrong way, and her supporters do seem to overlook her more glaring faults. In contrast to other more "likeable" people she just hasn't given me any reason over the years to like her at all.
Having said that, this is childish from Stephens. Why worry about being defriended from Twitter and BBM?
TERRASTAR18
Hall of Fame
andy roddick? ryan harrison? and johnny mac is still getting commercials praising his arrogance.
Rabbit
G.O.A.T.
Not really considering Serena's age. The career clock is definitely ticking.
Well, I'll amend that. She'll probably look back and laugh at them.
The announcers made a big to do at the Aussie prior to the match about how Serena had taken Sloane "under her wing" and was mentoring her.
Then they showed the match where Serena did the "C'MON" + fist pump and Sloane's on court reaction to her coach "that's disrespectful". Given the "relationship" Sloane assumed and Serena apparently fostered, she was rightly taken aback. Typically, someone who is showing you the ropes doesn't show you the bush league tactics during a match.
Even Nadal, whose behavior and gamesmanship I have criticized, was on his absolute best behavior each and every time he play his mentor Moya. If there is a real relationship there, you just don't do the kind of crap Williams does.
Now, Williams has done some overt things that have shaken Stephens up. Whether Williams is cagey or that immature, who knows and quite frankly who cares.
I'll bet a dollar to a doughnut that when/if Stephens is in Williams' position, she doesn't act like a spoiled, petty crybaby.
Exactly. Serena Williams pretends to be gracious, friendly, self-effacing, and a people person. In truth, she's exactly the opposite. That's not an opinion, that's a reflection of how she deports herself.
The best evidence of this is Serena's behavior when she plays Venus. You don't see all the crap.
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THUNDERVOLLEY
G.O.A.T.
Really? It was only a few, short years ago (2001) when Hewitt unleashed his incredibly offensive, racist tirade at Blake and a USO official. Times have not changed.
I doubt that, as Hewitt's behavior is arguably the worst display ever to soil a tennis court, yet he was allowed to continue playing the event.
rosewallGOAT
Banned
You arent in kindergarten anymore Mrs. Sloane. People dont have to be your friends if they dont want to. Serena has lost to many players, better players than you, and many more times than you and your wimpish game will ever beat her. Yet she doesnt hate them like, so there is more reason she doesnt care for you. Given that you now come across as a 2nd grade crybaby schoolgirl one can easily see why that might be.
rosewallGOAT
Banned
Next time they play watch for Serena to serve her a golden set.
Sloane is a teen and says stupid stuff like, Wow I didn't know it was so easy to make it to the Semi Finals of an Open. She says this after she barely squeeks by in the matches before. She crys about the Come On yelled by Serena, they are playing a match Serena is pumping herself up you are trying to win on the court be friends after the match. Complaining about that is childish.
I would like to hear Serena's side of the story and see what sloane has tweeted after beating Serena at the AO.
I would like to hear Serena's side of the story and see what sloane has tweeted after beating Serena at the AO.
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