"Sloane Stephens blasts Serena Williams"
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She might have 2-5 more good years in her still.
Remember just about all of the other women had a long junior career of tennis before their pro careers.
Couple that with Serena's limited pro schedule over the last 15 years, and at the very least, we cannot apply the same rules to Serena as we have to other women about when it's time to retire.
I fully expect Serena will get at least meet the record of 18 slams and would not be surprised if she made it to 22.
darrinbaker00
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What record might that be, pray tell?
cluckcluck
Hall of Fame
5 is being extremely generous...2 is possible but very unlikely.
Vanhool
Hall of Fame
Sad to say I agree. I hope she does make it for a long time, but bodies age and become less resilient, it's just a fact. Post 32 you are declining. Even though she's had a comparatively light schedule, she's also had her share of injuries and it will be harder for her to bounce back from ankle rolls, etc. Love her while you can! (Or love hating her)
Harry_Wild
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We will know what is the truth when and if they get back together again in a tournament. The press will be all over this!
Nothing like rivals talking bad!
Nothing like rivals talking bad!
THUNDERVOLLEY
G.O.A.T.
Stephens proved she is a repugnant, would-be manipulator. Now that the blowback / weight of her lies forced her to do an about-face on the public stage, this will be her identity, instead of her profession.
She asked for it.
I wouldn't read too much into it, for either person. The whole thing is just not a big deal, and doesn't reveal "character" to the extent that the moral police are talking about here. It is always easy to criticize people who are in the public eye.
Rabbit
G.O.A.T.
I've heard the same from more than you, people who've actually met both.
If Stephens has any fault, it is that she is young. The other party has run out of hall passes.
FD3S
Hall of Fame
Exactly. Stephens is young, and young people have a tendency to make dumb mistakes - if she's pulling stuff like this in a few years, then that's a different story.
As for Serena... let's just say that not all great champions are great people and leave it at that, shall we?
cluckcluck
Hall of Fame
This pretty much defines this whole situation.
Give Sloane time and she'll mature. A young Borg had a bad temper, but he grew out of it and became a cool, calm player.
Not all great player can be a good role model, but just hope the youngster choose the right one. Federer chose Sampras, who had no problem losing to him in 2001 Wimbledon. They still speak to each other despite Roger broke many of his records.
THUNDERVOLLEY
G.O.A.T.
On the public note, she deliberately made this public to get some negative effect, so it backfired on her, hence her complete head-hanging-low act of attrition.
In this social media age, there's no innocent parties anymore, as public figures are well aware of the instant power to harm others via Twitter, Facebook, etc. That is the reason she had to back down--her would-be character assassination stunt was exposed.
Now, she has to live with her so-called career--which is not recieving too much attention on her part.
I don't think it is a big deal, but this is my take on it: the complaints about de-friending and stuff like that is basically Sloane way of rubbing it in publicly that she beat Serena. It was one more opportunity to remind everyone about it, a kind of win-win situation for her. She reminded everyone, and came out shining as the victim (in spite of her "apology"). Judging by the ready-made audience of Serena haters everywhere including this forum (and of course it has only to do with her actions, we all know that, don't we?), she has wildly succeeded.
Gonzalito17
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This is crybaby behavior, get tough Sloane, the tour is a cold place. For Serena to cut her off means she must view Sloane as a big threat.
Or Sloane is really annoying.
THUNDERVOLLEY
G.O.A.T.
^ The likely answer, considering her behavior in this matter. Stephens is no "threat," as the top players do not fear her game.
Steve0904
Talk Tennis Guru
Just accept the fact that not everybody likes Serena and move on.
SLD76
G.O.A.T.
He is a serena fanboy, but it doesn't make his statement wrong.
Steve0904
Talk Tennis Guru
I did not say he was wrong, but his constant defense of Serena reaches TMF Federer levels. In fact, it might be worse.
THUNDERVOLLEY
G.O.A.T.
Take your own advice--you did not need to reply to my post, and we all know how you feel about SW.
Fair is fair, Steve.
Moreover, it is true--no one fears Stephens' game. What is there to fear?
SLD76
G.O.A.T.
To be fair, serena gets attacked more than TMF perceives fed is.
And let's face it, we all know a fair amt of people on here don't like serena and it has nothing or little to do with on or off cout behavior
Steve0904
Talk Tennis Guru
Yes, and we certainly know how you feel about SW. :lol: Out of the 6111 posts you now have, I'd say at least 6000 of them are about defending Serena in some way shape or form.
Steve0904
Talk Tennis Guru
This is true, I know there is still racism in this world obviously. But I don't think it's too much to say that most people that do dislike/hate her these days just don't like her, and it has nothing to do with skin colour.
SLD76
G.O.A.T.
It just seems anything negative in relation to Serena is always blown way out of proportion and is equated to a crime against humanity
President
Legend
There is a fair amount of racism, but you can't deny that Serena's behavior/actions offer a lot of room for legitimate criticism as well. Players like Roddick and Nadal got trashed all the time on here too for their actions on court or excuses (respectively), its not solely due to race. Serena is a high profile figure who gets a lot of flack for the (bad IMO) way she behaves, you don't see Venus, Tsonga, Blake, or Monfils get trashed on here at all!
SLD76
G.O.A.T.
Hmmm...serena has had what...3 bad outbursts on court in a nearly 20 year career?
Forgive me if im not ready to label her problematic
Serena is 10 times more succesful than tsonga, blake and monfils.
Venus was always more soft spoken. Serena...is not.
President
Legend
If you read Serena's interviews they are full of snide remarks about other players after a loss or excuses. This has been happening for years now, I can dig some up if you really want me to. Then there are the bad outbursts that you mentioned. Of course, race plays SOME role but Serena is no Arthur Ashe. Nadal is white and he gets 10x the hate that Serena gets on this website.
Steve0904
Talk Tennis Guru
I actually thought it was spelled with an e all these years. Go figure.
DRII
G.O.A.T.
Serena is selfish and single minded when it comes to her profession, its one reason why she's won so much.
However, would it kill her to show a little gratitude and graciousness to a young, naive, up and coming, fellow American player (who is also a Black American as well)?
Serena's attitude is one reason she's such a polarizing figure...
However, would it kill her to show a little gratitude and graciousness to a young, naive, up and coming, fellow American player (who is also a Black American as well)?
Serena's attitude is one reason she's such a polarizing figure...
Steve0904
Talk Tennis Guru
This is just a general observation over the years, but it seems to be the main problem (for lack of a better word) with Serena's fans. They think either:
1) Everybody that dislikes Serena does so because she's black or
2) They hate her because she's very successful.
Now are there people that fall into 1 or both of those categories? Absolutely. However, I would say that most people these days (it's not the 1930's anymore) don't like her for other reasons. Many of which have already been enumerated in this thread. That's just my take on it.
1) Everybody that dislikes Serena does so because she's black or
2) They hate her because she's very successful.
Now are there people that fall into 1 or both of those categories? Absolutely. However, I would say that most people these days (it's not the 1930's anymore) don't like her for other reasons. Many of which have already been enumerated in this thread. That's just my take on it.
Vanhool
Hall of Fame
I think she's been very gracious to Sloane. (Is always complimentary of her, had her carry they flag at fed cup even though she lost her match there). I see no reason for her to be grateful to Sloane though. If anything Sloane should be grateful to her but instead has been very ungracious. If Serena had given the post AO interview Sloane gave, everyone would be going on about how awful she was. But Sloane is young and skinny with pretty white teeth and dimples and it was as though nobody actually listened to what she was saying and instead called her "charming."
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Interesting how the regular Serena haters don't seem to uncover such facts in their extensive research.
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