So, Carlo's absymal form on HC continues?

[FeroBango]

The sick irony of you trying to criticize someone as a fanboy when you are the worst fan of a player i've seen in the entirety of my duration of this forum. The way you have bullied Alcaraz for so long and overhyped Sinner has been awful.

Bullying someone for their teeth and saying he's a brat millennial was disgusting and you have no shame and haven't even owned up to it. You have been nothing short of disgusting. And this thread has continued your trend.

I've made it clear that this is how I will approach these conversations with this bad-faith idiot.

Hell, even yesterday I was saying the USO this year is a distant dream, his forehand return is awful when not in the zone, and was scratching my head at his 150 kmph first serves.

I feel sick to even validate myself by quoting my criticisms of Alcaraz here in this thread created by this idiot. But it is what it is.

I hope Alcaraz does better than these idiots expect him to, at least. But then again it won't matter as things such as luck will be ascribed to any win he procures by rotten apples such as the OP himself.

 

[Djokovic_is_the_best#1]

Threads such as this exist waaaaaay more than threads anointing his Goathood. In fact I remember even you making such claims. We all say a bunch of things we don't truly mean here, don't we?

It is true but then we realise and come down to earth. You are correct.

I just feel a bit sorry for Alcaraz. He’s seen as the golden boy in this forum and probably many others. It like if he lets people down then evil wins. I mean I like sinner, Zverev, meddy and obviously Djokovic. They aren’t evil to me but to many on here they are just don’t care for them to win.

However, on here it feels like many will be like tennis sucks or is dead if Alcaraz doesn’t win. I don’t see great support for the other players as much. It might just be me.

 

[NeutralFan]

I understand, but I am trying to explain the continues part.

Monfils didn't do anything special, and didn't really show us anything that would be exploited. Alcaraz clearly was mentally off, the way he smashed his racket should be the strong indicator of where his mind is at....he is probably replaying that tie break again and again in his head, what he could have done differently, how he coughed up two UFEs that basically gave Djokovic four MPs...

Maybe or maybe not, if it was clay or grass then i would have understood it but on HC it's more due to him being bad for a long stretch of time plus Monfils is a great defender( pusher when he wants to be) and this style frustrate Carlos on HC ( Z + Med) he needs to change his style else it can get very ugly.

 

[Hitman]

Maybe or maybe not, if it was clay or grass then i would have understood it but on HC it's more due to him being bad for a long stretch of tim plus Monfils is a great defender( pusher when he wants to be) and this style frustrate Carlos on HC ( Z + Med) he needs to change his style else it can get very ugly.

Medvedev hasn't won a title on HC since Miami 2023 which is even worse.

Basically unless you are Sinner and Djokovic, you haven't done anything in the last 12 months.

I don't think he wins USO, I feel it is too soon, he can of course prove me wrong, but he pushed a lot out to get that RG-W double and then losing Gold in Paris.

 

[Djokovic_is_the_best#1]

I've made it clear that this is how I will approach these conversations with this bad-faith idiot.

Hell, even yesterday I was saying the USO this year is a distant dream, his forehand return is awful when not in the zone, and was scratching my head at his 150 kmph first serves.

I feel sick to even validate myself by quoting my criticisms of Alcaraz here in this thread created by this idiot. But it is what it is.

I hope Alcaraz does better than these idiots expect him to, at least. But then again it won't matter as things such as luck will be ascribed to any win he procures by rotten apples such as the OP himself.

To be fair though you are one of the best posters on here. You never get carried away. Unfortunately a lot of other Alcaraz fans could learn from you.

Same for fans from other fanbases.

 

[FeroBango]

To be fair though you are one of the best posters on here. You never get carried away. Unfortunately a lot of other Alcaraz fans could learn from you.

Same for fans from other fanbases.

It's truly unfortunate in a way. Never felt the need to disrespect the OP despite his truly insufferable posting but then he created a "why ppl hate sinner" and indulged in an unexpected character assassination of me lol.

My being unhinged in this thread is because I've realised this is all the OP deserves.

All extreme fans are insufferable too, I agree. There's a Carlos is goat on Twitter who made a despicable post on Sinner just yesterday, comparing him to Mussolini ffs.

PS. I do get carried away. I frequently bash Carlos in live threads but that's just the way I watch sport. I get amped up and calm down.

 

[ghostofMecir]

What's wrong with Carlos HC game? Has he maxed out already or players have figured it out? As a Sinner fan I want him to do well and meet Sinner in USO final but the way he has been playing on HC I doubt he makes beyond qf lol. His serve seems ineffective on HC, his point construction and shot selection is suspect, he's losing games he should have won . In a nutshell, he's playing same tennis he was playing at 19. If I was a Carlos fan I would be worried since 2 slams are on HC . What do you sons think about his HC form post Wimbledon 2023? What changes he should make in his game? Should he fire JCF? Discuss

Carlitos overall game is somewhat unique in that his overall game can be dominant, but he does not dominate matches/tournaments commensurate with that dominant game. There is one final step he has take though not sure he’ll get there, but there are matches in which he should have a stranglehold but doesn't. Against Monfils, for example, he was ahead in sho many points only to lose them and there really didn’t seem any path for Monfils to win and yet he did. There seem to be so many of these matches for Carlitos.

2024 Carlitos dominance ratio: 1.27

Look at this number; overall, relative to the tour, it’s a very good number, but it’s not anywhere close to what you expect from someone who could be/should be dominating the tour. When you look at the Big 3, you see that a number like 1.27 would be something from their weaker years, e.g., Fedr’s 2013, Djoko’s 2017, Rafito’s 2015, etc.

Here’s Djoko’s dominance ratios:

Here’s Fedr’s:

And Rafito’s:

 

[NeutralFan]

Carlitos overall game is somewhat unique in that his overall game can be dominant, but he does not dominate matches/tournaments commensurate with that dominant game. There is one final step he has take though not sure he’ll get there, but there are matches in which he should have a stranglehold but doesn't. Against Monfils, for example, he was ahead in sho many points only to lose them and there really didn’t seem any path for Monfils to win and yet he did. There seem to be so many of these matches for Carlitos.

2024 Carlitos dominance ratio: 1.27

Look at this number; overall, relative to the tour, it’s a very good number, but it’s not anywhere close to what you expect from someone who could be/should be dominating the tour. When you look at the Big 3, you see that a number like 1.27 would be something from their weaker years, e.g., Fedr’s 2013, Djoko’s 2017, Rafito’s 2015, etc.

Here’s Djoko’s dominance ratios:

Here’s Fedr’s:

And Rafito’s:

Good but he plays a brilliant shots then only to lose the point by hitting unforced errors ( many times, or wrong shot selection) it gets masked more on Grass and clay but it gets exposed on HC.

 

[Pheasant]

Carlitos overall game is somewhat unique in that his overall game can be dominant, but he does not dominate matches/tournaments commensurate with that dominant game. There is one final step he has take though not sure he’ll get there, but there are matches in which he should have a stranglehold but doesn't. Against Monfils, for example, he was ahead in sho many points only to lose them and there really didn’t seem any path for Monfils to win and yet he did. There seem to be so many of these matches for Carlitos.

2024 Carlitos dominance ratio: 1.27

Look at this number; overall, relative to the tour, it’s a very good number, but it’s not anywhere close to what you expect from someone who could be/should be dominating the tour. When you look at the Big 3, you see that a number like 1.27 would be something from their weaker years, e.g., Fedr’s 2013, Djoko’s 2017, Rafito’s 2015, etc.

Here’s Djoko’s dominance ratios:

Here’s Fedr’s:

And Rafito’s:

Good stuff.

What’s interesting is that Djoker’s age-21 season(2008) is identical to Alcaraz’s.

Alcaraz runs so hot and cold. It’s as though he needs to play himself into form at a tourney by getting 15+ sets under his belt before the beast is released.

 

[NeutralFan]

It's truly unfortunate in a way. Never felt the need to disrespect the OP despite his truly insufferable posting but then he created a "why ppl hate sinner" and indulged in an unexpected character assassination of me lol.

My being unhinged in this thread is because I've realised this is all the OP deserves.

All extreme fans are insufferable too, I agree. There's a Carlos is goat on Twitter who made a despicable post on Sinner just yesterday, comparing him to Mussolini ffs.

PS. I do get carried away. I frequently bash Carlos in live threads but that's just the way I watch sport. I get amped up and calm down.

Well whatever i said wasn't wrong but let's not derail the thread. I congratulate personally every fans I know here whenever their players win , was first one to congratulate Djokovic in 2023 and now @Djokovic_is_the_best#1 but you showed your true colors and pretended as if I didn't do after RG and Wimbledon and i celebrated his losses lol. Yeah sure!! Anyway, you're a liar like Aussie darcie and have to put you on ignore again

 

[FeroBango]

Well whatever i said wasn't wrong but let's not derail the thread. I congratulate personally every fans I know here whenever their players win , was first one to congratulate Djokovic in 2023 and now @Djokovic_is_the_best#1 but you showed your true colors and pretended as it I didn't do after RG and Wimbledon and i celebrated his losses lol. Yeah sure!! Anyway, you're a liar like Aussie darcie and have to put you on ignore again

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Imagine pretending the odd congratulation makes you look like a half decent person. Especially when the congratulations usually follow the lines of "congrats teeth fans".

What a sicko. Get help old man.

 

[NYTennisfan]

It seems you deliberately read it wrongly. Thread is about last 12 months and yeah compare their results ( even though thread is not about Sinner)

Come on lol, it's always about Sinner when you guys who are talking about Alcaraz's poor form while also talk about Sinner's great form. They're always tied together.

Ok, even if we discuss the last 12 months....
Alcaraz lost the Cincy final in a classic to Djokovic, lost in the USO semis to one of the best hard court players of this generation, crapped the bed in a few second rate masters that most players hardly care for, made the semis of the ATP Finals, the quarters of the AO, won Indian Wells, quarters of Miami (The Sunshine Double is an extremely tall order for anybody) then this result in Cincinnati after an Olympic hangover. He's made at least the quarters in every important tournament outside of Cincy this year. He's not going to win every tournament, these results aren't that bad not what I'd call "abysmal" necessarily.

 

[NeutralFan]

Good stuff.

What’s interesting is that Djoker’s age-21 season(2008) is identical to Alcaraz’s.

Alcaraz runs so hot and cold. It’s as though he needs to play himself into form at a tourney by getting 15+ sets under his belt before the beast is released.

Djokovic at 19 -20 was going toe to toe against Fed, Djokovic is the HC ginat( best amoung big 3 on HC) meanwhile Carlos is struggling on HC, doesn't sound like a fair comparison .

 

[NeutralFan]

Medvedev hasn't won a title on HC since Miami 2023 which is even worse.

Basically unless you are Sinner and Djokovic, you haven't done anything in the last 12 months.

I don't think he wins USO, I feel it is too soon, he can of course prove me wrong, but he pushed a lot out to get that RG-W double and then losing Gold in Paris.

Yes but we are talking about the golden kid , the next big thing and saying tier 3 players didn't do much doesn't justify Carlo's absymal performances.

 

[tudwell]

Abysmal form? This was his first hard court event in months. He last played in Miami and just before that won Indian Wells. Way too soon to call it abysmal form. Let’s see what he does at the US Open first.

 

[NeutralFan]

"Abysmal form on hc".

Abysmal? Lmao.

You embarrassed yourself for the millionth time.

I have criticised every player, even Nadal , does it deem as attacking? Lmao!! You need some help and meds. talking about a players form and play style is not attacking you clown. Now go away and leave me alone , told you to leave me alone but you won't do that.you know what's? That's harassment when you don't stop chasing someone even when someone doesn't want it. You shameless creep leave me alone, telling you 1000th times . This was my last reply to you .

 

[FeroBango]

Abysmal form? This was his first hard court event in months. He last played in Miami and just before that won Indian Wells. Way too soon to call it abysmal form. Let’s see what he does at the US Open first.

Alcaraz is seen inferior to Sinner despite doing better than him at USO. I'm afraid it's immaterial what he does in the upcoming USO to some of our TTW posters.

 

[NeutralFan]

Abysmal form? This was his first hard court event in months. He last played in Miami and just before that won Indian Wells. Way too soon to call it abysmal form. Let’s see what he does at the US Open first.

Jesus, tudwell son, for heaven sake please read post carefully, it was about last one year.

 

[Mr.Lob]

What's wrong with Carlos HC game? Has he maxed out already or players have figured it out? As a Sinner fan I want him to do well and meet Sinner in USO final but the way he has been playing on HC I doubt he makes beyond qf lol. His serve seems ineffective on HC, his point construction and shot selection is suspect, he's losing games he should have won . In a nutshell, he's playing same tennis he was playing at 19. If I was a Carlos fan I would be worried since 2 slams are on HC . What do you sons think about his HC form post Wimbledon 2023? What changes he should make in his game? Should he fire JCF? Discuss

He should hire Brad Gilbert from Coco.
Would get back to hc wins in no time.

 

[NeutralFan]

He should hire Brad Gilbert from Coco.
Would get back to hc wins in no time.

I think Vajda will be the best

 

[NeutralFan]

Stfu idiot. I'm just not going to call out his several flaws to bad faith Sintrolls such as yourself. It's a waste of time.

@KingCarlitos Create a meaningful thread man. We need a space to discuss some of Alcaraz' appalling HC play without the buzzing of fruitfly that the likes of this OP are.

What you're doing in this forum , clown if you don't wanna discuss the thread ??

 

[tudwell]

Jesus, tudwell son, for heaven sake please read post carefully, it was about last one year.

I wouldn’t say his hard court form in the last year has been abysmal. Disappointing at times, for sure, but some strong showings peppered in. He’s 6-6 against the top 10 in the last 12 months, by my count. He nearly won Cincinnati, was strong at the US Open (only losing to a Medvedev playing the match of his life), and strong as usual in Indian Wells. Losing a couple matches apiece to Zverev, Sinner, Djokovic – I mean, sure, he could do better. Maybe should be doing better, but those aren’t awful losses. Monfils and Safiullin in Paris are by far the worst of the lot, and two losses to Dimitrov in that span (especially the beatdown in Miami) is disappointing, but still – abysmal is quite an overstatement, I think. It’d be like asking why Sinner’s been abysmal on clay the last two years.

 

[NoleFam]

The OP is exaggerating. He made the USO SF last year, was close to winning Cincy, made ATP Finals SF last year on the fastest court on tour, and made the AO QF this year. That's not abysmal. The reality is, dominating on all types of surfaces isn't easy. Not many can do that. So it appears faster hardcourt will be the more challenging type of surface for him but just because he played a terrible match doesn't mean he's abysmal. Besides he's only 21 and has time to figure it out, plus he's already won the USO on a pretty quick court and beat Sinner on the way to that title.

 

[Hitman]

Yes but we are talking about the golden kid , the next big thing and saying tier 3 players didn't do much doesn't justify Carlo's absymal performances.

He's doing fine, he is going to bounce back.

 

[KantenKlaar]

Alcaraz will figure it out. He is that good. I don't think even you believe the stuff you are saying. Lot of posts that will get bumped in the future I believe.

Thank you, the voice of reason.

 

[FeroBango]

del

 

[FeroBango]

What Carlos can do to turn around his rivalry with Sinner and from becoming Hewitt of this era?

I have been thinking about this since last month and didn't find any answers. Sinner is improving very fast meanwhile it seems Carlos has already maxed out his talents. His agressive low percentage game doesn't cut it well against Sinner , his return is also a suspect on big points and his BH...

tt.tennis-warehouse.com

Here's a lovely thread to bump by the OP.

@TheSlicer Remember this?

Alcaraz will figure it out. He is that good. I don't think even you believe the stuff you are saying. Lot of posts that will get bumped in the future I believe.

 

[ND-13]

The OP is suggesting Alcaraz is the golden boy. I agree in the sense he gets a free pass more than others with bad performances due to his fast start in slams, seem as heir to big 3 throne, media darling and many fans jumped on his bandwagon.

He doesn’t get as much hate on his poor displays and it usually he will come good. He might again but he’s right that the trend on hard courts is a bit worrying over last year or so.

I feel the majority of this site will not be happy if Alcaraz doesn’t win. A lot of pressure on golden boy shoulders. It weird but it feels like Sinner, old Djokovic and Zverev/meddy are the villains here.

People always value class and style. They will always be the darling and heroes .

 

[Djokovic_is_the_best#1]

People always value class and style. They will always be the darling and heroes .

Unfortunately golden boy let himself down with class against monfils. It’s a learning curve though for the young lad.

 

[Hitman]

People always value class and style.....

And arrogance it seems...

 

[ND-13]

Nothing should be read during the Olympic season.

It is not easy going from clay to grass to clay and to hard .

It is not that he lost in straight sets. He was a point or two from wrapping in straights.

He will win several HC majors .

He didn’t lose Canada and Cinci back to back

 

[RF-18]

I saw it earlier, it's gone now? Lol.

Funny after that thread Alcaraz went on to win the channel slam.

Like i've said, all these comments will be looked back upon. There is nothing to worry about regarding Alcaraz. People here have a habit to make some huge deal about a few set backs. 20 years old and look what he has done already. Sinner has alot to prove to be in the same convo as Alcaraz.

What Carlos can do to turn around his rivalry with Sinner and from becoming Hewitt of this era?

I have been thinking about this since last month and didn't find any answers. Sinner is improving very fast meanwhile it seems Carlos has already maxed out his talents. His agressive low percentage game doesn't cut it well against Sinner , his return is also a suspect on big points and his BH...

tt.tennis-warehouse.com

Here's a lovely thread to bump by the OP.

@TheSlicer Remember this?

 

[FeroBango]

I saw it earlier, it's gone now? Lol.

Funny after that thread Alcaraz went on to win the channel slam.

Like i've said, all these comments will be looked back upon. There is nothing to worry about regarding Alcaraz. People here have a habit to make some huge deal about a few set backs. 20 years old and look what he has done already. Sinner has alot to prove to be in the same convo as Alcaraz.

Well it's a good thing I had this Hall of Shame thread of the sad, sad OP in the form of a screenshot, isn't it?

 

[ND-13]

And arrogance it seems...

Arrogance because he said he played his worst match ? What is wrong ? It is not that Monfils was blowing him over . Monfils played well but Alcaraz made UFE more than usual and didn’t capitalize on the several BO opportunities he had. It was frustrating for him because his mentality is same as big 3 - enter tournaments to win. Not do well or reach the weekend

 

[ND-13]

Unfortunately golden boy let himself down with class against monfils. It’s a learning curve though for the young lad.

This is completely nothing burger

 

[Djokovic_is_the_best#1]

This is completely nothing burger

LOL Sure it was. I bet you would have said the same if Djokovic did it. Carlos was shouting at his whole box the whole match, in a foul mood and breaking his racquet on repeat. I guess he not really like Fedal after-all. Although Fed had that history when he was young too before he matured and stopped.

 

[tudwell]

Nothing should be read during the Olympic season.

It is not easy going from clay to grass to clay and to hard .

It is not that he lost in straight sets. He was a point or two from wrapping in straights.

He will win several HC majors .

He didn’t lose Canada and Cinci back to back

Not to mention how mentally exhausting it must be to a) win the French Open for the first time, b) defend your first slam title while c) winning the Channel Slam in the process and then d) play for Olympic Gold, all within the span of a couple months. He’s probably fried – at least emotionally, if not also physically.

Hope he can regroup for the US Open, though!

 

[ND-13]

LOL Sure it was. I bet you would have said the same if Djokovic did it. Carlos was shouting at his whole box the whole match, in a foul mood and breaking his racquet on repeat. I guess he not really like Fedal after-all. Although Fed had that history when he was young too before he matured and stopped.

He wanted to win the match but the loss means nothing for him in the scheme of things .

He could have had a better draw at USO but with Zverev also playing decent , as long as draws are not skewed that he has to face Medvedev, Sinner and Djokovic back to back while Sinner or Djokovic enjoy Rublev and Zverev getting upset and facing Alex Demanure , then we are ok

But we have seen Carlos always dealt with tough draws while Djokovic has been having it easy for 6 years . So , wouldn’t be surprised if it repeats

 

[FeroBango]

> Demeans Alcaraz to the standards of a player Sinner is yet to even meet
> Calls Alcaraz' wins over Sinner this year fluke
> Begrudgingly lets out a "congrats Teeth fans hehe"
> Asks why Sinner isn't liked in another thread
> Opens another thread on Alcaraz
> Is offended when people see him to be the troll that he is

@InsuranceMan specializes in destroying the mug that is the OP. This is just my humble contribution to the receipt-list.

 

[ND-13]

Not to mention how mentally exhausting it must be to a) win the French Open for the first time, b) defend your first slam title while c) winning the Channel Slam in the process and then d) play for Olympic Gold, all within the span of a couple months. He’s probably fried – at least emotionally, if not also physically.

Hope he can regroup for the US Open, though!

It is blessing in disguise . He needs rest and just that minor shock to be ready from first ball at USO

 

[Djokovic_is_the_best#1]

He wanted to win the match but the loss means nothing for him in the scheme of things .

He could have had a better draw at USO but with Zverev also playing decent , as long as draws are not skewed that he has to face Medvedev, Sinner and Djokovic back to back while Sinner or Medvedev enjoy Rublev and Zverev getting upset and facing Alex Demanure , then we are ok

But we have seen Carlos always dealt with tough draws while Djokovic has been having it easy for 6 years . So , wouldn’t be surprised if it repeats

I’m hoping for Djokovic v sinner final to be honest. We not seen that match in a slam final. We will see what happens though. All of sinner, Djokovic, alcaraz, Meddy and Zverev have good chances. Then will be the odd dark horse or 2.

 

[TTMR]

Meh. Alcaraz has won all important tournaments this year except the AO.

 

[ND-13]

I’m hoping for Djokovic v sinner final to be honest. We not seen that match in a slam final. We will see what happens though. All of sinner, Djokovic, alcaraz, Meddy and Zverev have good chances. Then will be the odd dark horse or 2.

Basically whoever gets the lucky SF will be the winner at the end of a long season.

Let us hope draws are even.

May be Djokovic can face Medvedev, Alcaraz and Sinner in that order.

 

[Rafa4LifeEver]

He'd be fine in BO5 at USO, but I don't see him winning the title there. He could go down to Medvedev, Zverev, Sinner, Djokovic and perhaps some inspired big server.

 

[Rafa4LifeEver]

In my opinion Sinner is the favourite for us open. His ball striking is amazing and he moves even better on hard.

Carlos will likely have a run but he’s more rushed on hard courts. I see him losing to one of sinner, Djokovic, meddy or Zverev. He can be vulnerable to others too but especially them.

I think Carlos will have a good domination run on grass and maybe clay but hard courts will prove more challenging.

I didn't read your post and yet ended up writing exactly the same thing in my post before this one.

 

[FeroBango]

He'd be fine in BO5 at USO, but I don't see him winning the title there. He could go down to Medvedev, Zverev, Sinner, Djokovic and perhaps some inspired big server.

Dimitrov to do the deed.

 

[Rafa4LifeEver]

Dimitrov to do the deed.

Dimitrov can't do it in BO5 under such physically wearing humid conditions.
He'd break down after a good 1,5 sets.

 

[Djokovic_is_the_best#1]

I didn't read your post and yet ended up writing exactly the same thing in my post before this one.

Great minds think alike

 

[Rafa4LifeEver]

Great minds think alike

Maybe our minds are under quantum entanglement, I guess?

 

[ghostofMecir]

Good stuff.

What’s interesting is that Djoker’s age-21 season(2008) is identical to Alcaraz’s.

Alcaraz runs so hot and cold. It’s as though he needs to play himself into form at a tourney by getting 15+ sets under his belt before the beast is released.

This is quite true, and I’ve been thinking about it, but perhaps it’s due to various things, but it’s just that he loses control of sets and games out of nowhere making mistakes that he shouldn’t make, picking shots that he probably shouldn’t pick.