So Nadal is planning to play Laver Cup, WTF, Davis Cup and ATP Cup

Mike Sams

Legend
I keep trying to understand why of all the players, the youngest is being made to be superhuman and has to surpass both FEDAL now even though technically he has several more years to accomplish what they did! WTF is wrong with people? Just because Nadal's doing it to Fed doesn't mean Nole has to be just as accomplished when he's several years younger than "Fedal!" He has time; a lot of it! :sneaky:
He might have several more years...or he might not. He has a very physical game that's defensive oriented and he uses his wheels to maximum extent. And looking at his results this year, he cleared the deck in Australia which was a great run for him. He got handled in France in the semis by the second best clay courter in Thiem. He won Wimbledon with a clown draw and still had to save MPs against a near 38 year old in the final. He got overpowered by a much younger player in Medvedev in Cincy and then went on to get smashed off the court by Stan. Granted that Djokovic was injured but his injuries are a result of playing a lot of tough physical matches. And that's not going to get easier for him with his aging body as younger guys start making inroads on him and Federer and Nadal. Regardless of the success of the big 3, they are still getting older and are prone to injury and aging. Djokovic winning another several Slams is no guarantee going forward.
 

Raphael Nadal

Professional
Rafa has won the last 3 French Opens, and 2 of the last 3 US Opens (and Rafa retired in the SF of 2018 US Open)!
And he's made the Wimbledon Semis for the last 2 years....
And couldn't practice properly (couldn't practice defense) after ankle surgery but still made the AO final this year!
Rafa has an incredible future it would appear :)
 

Fiero425

Hall of Fame
Rafa has won the last 3 French Opens, and 2 of the last 3 US Opens (and Rafa retired in the SF of 2018 US Open)!
And he's made the Wimbledon Semis for the last 2 years....
And couldn't practice properly (couldn't practice defense) after ankle surgery but still made the AO final this year!
Rafa has in incredible future it would appear :)
OMG, pull out the hankies! We know this already; tell us something we don't know without looking like a sycophant! As much as you want to give kudos to Rafa, he's still #2 behind Nole who's owned it for the most part! We've hashed out these #'s already! What's your point anyway? :sneaky:
 

timnz

Legend
Isn’t it too many exhos? What’s even the point? Out of these only WTF deserves attention because like it or not, it can give 1500 points.

Seems irrational to me.
Out of them none of them are exho's (maybe the Laver cup at a stretch - but results there go on the ATP head to head register).
 
Would be ironic if h2h innovation strikes back on Federer with Isner.
I will say this, he might have told Fed he could not play more than a match or two and was never going to play Sunday. But they kept it quiet for ticket and interests purpose.

Unless he was hiding it, there was no notice of a wrist or hand issue other than some tape. Just hope it does not let Djoker get YE1.
 
What is ATP cup? And WTF is not an exho. This might secure Rafa as year end no 1. Agreed on the other 2 but I have a feeling he is getting paid a lot of money for Laver cup.
 
I will say this, he might have told Fed he could not play more than a match or two and was never going to play Sunday. But they kept it quiet for ticket and interests purpose.

Unless he was hiding it, there was no notice of a wrist or hand issue other than some tape. Just hope it does not let Djoker get YE1.
Djokovic right now is a lock for YE#1. He is going to plan Tokyo, Shanghai, Paris and WTF, and he is the heavy favorite to win all 4 titles.

I honestly have no idea when Djokovic is going to lose the number 1 spot. I don't think it will happen before 2022 or something.
 

Raphael Nadal

Professional
Isn’t it too many exhos? What’s even the point? Out of these only WTF deserves attention because like it or not, it can give 1500 points.

Seems irrational to me.
Rafa doesn't need the World Tour Finals 1500 points, as Djokovic probably won't win enough to finish #1 :)
You can't rely on Djokovic to win anything these days.....let alone everything.
And Davis Cup has always been more important than the World Tour Finals.
 
Rafa doesn't need the World Tour Finals 1500 points, as Djokovic probably won't win enough to finish #1 :)
You can't rely on Djokovic to win anything these days.....let alone everything.
And Davis Cup has always been more important than the World Tour Finals.
Lol, what? Who can stop Djokovic at these tournaments? He is basically a lock for the titles in Tokyo and Shanghai. A bit less in Paris and WTF but he is still the heavy favorite there.
 
Djokovic right now is a lock for YE#1. He is going to plan Tokyo, Shanghai, Paris and WTF, and he is the heavy favorite to win all 4 titles.

I honestly have no idea when Djokovic is going to lose the number 1 spot. I don't think it will happen before 2022 or something.
Well, it all depends on injuries. What is Rafa playing? So I assume djoker is healthy?
 


I don't know if Nadal is going to play at all. When he says he isn't 100% after USO he usually skips the rest of the year.
Well, it might not be that serious and could be taking some precautionary steps. My guess is he at least plays WTF and will need to win that.

If he can win WTF then Djoker will have to be 100% healthy to have any chance to retain YE1.
 

BringBackSV

Hall of Fame
I said "FEDAL!" They both had significant time on tour before Nole; 2 years for Rafa and over 5 with Roger! Djokovic has owned this decade regardless of how things end! He took 15 majors over Nadal's 13, won more Masters events, and kills Nadal over the YEC owning 5 of them! It all just matters at what angle you want to exploit the numbers! Fedalovic each have something that sets them apart & makes them part of the GOAT argument/discussion! ;)
You said "Fedal", which was dumb. He's less than a year younger than Rafa.
 

Nostradamus

Bionic Poster
RAFA now definitely OUT of world tour final. will he play Davis cup,,NOT. will he play ATP cup in January ? this is real possibility. he needs a warmup tournament so most likely he will play that one.
 

The Blond Blur

Hall of Fame



Well, it might not be that serious and could be taking some precautionary steps. My guess is he at least plays WTF and will need to win that.

If he can win WTF then Djoker will have to be 100% healthy to have any chance to retain YE1.
Replying to me and Strongrule at the same time?! :eek:
 

Raphael Nadal

Professional
Lol, what? Who can stop Djokovic at these tournaments? He is basically a lock for the titles in Tokyo and Shanghai. A bit less in Paris and WTF but he is still the heavy favorite there.
You could say that about Montreal, Cincy and US Open.....and Djokovic won absolutely nothing.
Heck, he was a thin whisker away from losing Wimbledon......and what happened in the clay season?
Let's face it, you can't rely on Djokovic to win anything.
You can hope, and that is all :)
 
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