So the umpire cannot control the crowd now?

[leodevlin]

Irrespective of what you think happened during the Rune Fokina match , it's absolutely not acceptable for a crowd to harass a player for the rest of the match.

The umpire was telling Rune that he cannot do anything to control the crowd. I find that hard to believe.

Does anyone know how much power the umpire has in this regard?

 

[ollinger]

The umpire was telling Rune that he cannot do anything to control the crowd. I find that hard to believe.

Does anyone know how much power the umpire has in this regard?

Ummm, what can he do, threaten to kick them all out?? Make them stay after for detention?? They are the PAYING CUSTOMERS!!

 

[RF-18]

Fat chance he can control it. What is he supposed to do other than to tell them to be quiet. Especially the crowd in Madrid where they are known to harass for the smallest things. You can't even check out a mark or ask the umpire a question before they start to boo, especially if you are playing a home player. Then they are even worse.

 

[Bartelby]

The umpire is supposed to advise the referee and/or tournament director, or whatever these persons are called, who then advises ground staff to identify and deal with the major offenders.

It may not work well, but the umpire is irresponsible if he just washes his hands of the matter.

 

[Bartelby]

Ummm, what can he do, threaten to kick them all out?? Make them stay after for detention?? They are the PAYING CUSTOMERS!!

They pay subject to contractual obligations, which arguably some of the crowd is violating. The problem is only if there are too many troublemakers.

 

[Bill Lobsalot]

Have you played any other sports with fans present? I played small college basketball. Pretty noisy. No problem.

 

[Bartelby]

Team sports are where you are allowed, and even encouraged, to yell. Tennis is now encouraging this and it is seeping into point play as well.

 

[McLovin]

The umpire was telling Rune that he cannot do anything to control the crowd. I find that hard to believe.

They can (and have done so in the past) have security remove one or two unruly fans.

But they can’t do anything if it’s 80% of the stadium crowd.

 

[leodevlin]

Ummm, what can he do, threaten to kick them all out?? Make them stay after for detention?? They are the PAYING CUSTOMERS!!

what would you do to a paying customers in a movie theatre or restaurant if they didn't behave?

He could have at least tried, chouldn't he?

 

[leodevlin]

Have you played any other sports with fans present? I played small college basketball. Pretty noisy. No problem.

are you comparing a basketball game to a tennis match? You have to be kidding.

 

[leodevlin]

They can (and have done so in the past) have security remove one or two unruly fans.

But they can’t do anything if it’s 80% of the stadium crowd.

Should have at least tried.

 

[Deleted member 791948]

Carlos Bernardes is never in control....

 

[LaVie en Rose]

Ummm, what can he do, threaten to kick them all out?? Make them stay after for detention?? They are the PAYING CUSTOMERS!!

Harassment of competitor, delaying &disrupting game flow/ world feed are included in their tickets?

 

[nolefam_2024]

Carlos Bernardes is never in control....

It's funny when umpire laughs at you. I don't know how else to explain.

 

[ollinger]

Harassment of competitor, delaying &disrupting game flow/ world feed are included in their tickets?

Yes, using their voices to express feelings is part of the experience. Hell, they boo a soprano at La Scala if she misses a note! Tennis players won't shatter if negative feelings are directed at them.

 

[LaVie en Rose]

Now so called tennis fans pretend they don’t know tennis etiquette.

 

[tex123]

Irrespective of what you think happened during the Rune Fokina match , it's absolutely not acceptable for a crowd to harass a player for the rest of the match.

The umpire was telling Rune that he cannot do anything to control the crowd. I find that hard to believe.

Does anyone know how much power the umpire has in this regard?

Players need the crowd. Crowd needs the players.

Lesson to Rune - can't handle booing? Stop being a jerk then.

 

[LaVie en Rose]

Yes, using their voices to express feelings is part of the experience. Hell, they boo a soprano at La Scala if she misses a note! Tennis players won't shatter if negative feelings are directed at them.

Tennis etiquette has been introduced to players before they start to practice .Tennis is such sport in which ultimate goal is to hit the ball within opponent's 12m/8m part of the court and defend their 12m/m8 part playing with small ball and tool (used as extended hand). Some would think such game besides physical effort requires extreme focus . Score in tennis games is such that one of two balls can decide outcome.
Yet there are ppl who ignore specifics of the sport they claim to love

 

[pj80]

Carlos Bernardes is never in control....

Was he laughing at Rafa and his threats to expel him from officiating?

 

[jackson vile]

He could suspend the match until everyone settles down.

 

[Hood_Man]

They can (and have done so in the past) have security remove one or two unruly fans.

But they can’t do anything if it’s 80% of the stadium crowd.

I didn't see the match but were any fans thrown out? People are like cattle, all it takes are a few examples and the rest will fall into line.

 

[Deleted member 791948]

Was he laughing at Rafa and his threats to expel him from officiating?

Carlos was laughing because Nadal was taking his shorts off (they were on backwards, and Nadal had asked to leave the court, but Carlos didn't let him).

 

[LaVie en Rose]

I didn't see the match but were any fans thrown out? People are like cattle, all it takes are a few examples and the rest will fall into line.

They aren't .AO security thrown out woman who was rude to Nadal showing him middle finger and shouting during pts.
Bold : exactly!

 

[Jonesy]

Carlos Bernardes is never in control....

Nadal: i'm injured again
Bernardes:

 

[Crocodile]

Bernie wanted a man removed from the stadium but the umpire said, “ but that’s your father!”.

 

[Bill Lobsalot]

are you comparing a basketball game to a tennis match? You have to be kidding.

No kidding. You just tune out the crowd noise. These tennis players are goating the crowd, Tiafoe, Rune, Kygios. They can handle it.

 

[socallefty]

I don’t think the ticket contract language says that you can’t boo a player. So, what grounds are there to throw out people for booing especially in between points?

 

[LaVie en Rose]

I don’t think the ticket contract language says that you can’t boo a player. So, what grounds are there to throw out people for booing especially in between points?

Harass &distract players in MATCH PLAY ,disrupting the game flow 25sec between the points therefore prolonging match ,possibly affecting future performance or winners/losers, negatively affecting World feed.

Bernardes to crowd: It's 1AM, LET THEM PLAY. Crowd : Boooo!!!

Once again proved for tennis fans , if they dislike player (acting in the match )/or are nationalistic (seen here with spanish /Nadal overly defensive to criticism ) for whatever reason they will even defend bullying & hooligan crowd behaviour . All in paid ticket contract, . Players have to toughen up, right, and not provoke innocent crowds who paid their tickets

 

[Deleted member 791948]

 

[LaVie en Rose]

That smile of a child caught doing...

 

[D_m_a]

non Spanish pro players should refuse to play in Spain, the crowds are scum.

Not tennis fans, more like football hooligans that don't know the rules of tennis , but go cos a Spanish player is playing ...

 

[Biotic]

Vamos-brigade doing what they do best

 

[leodevlin]

Players need the crowd. Crowd needs the players.

Lesson to Rune - can't handle booing? Stop being a jerk then.

He was a jerk for thinking his ball was in ?

 

[LaVie en Rose]

Crowd deserved let cord that set MP for Borna. LOL
Poor Alehandro though...

 

[I get cramps]

non Spanish pro players should refuse to play in Spain, the crowds are scum.

Not tennis fans, more like football hooligans that don't know the rules of tennis , but go cos a Spanish player is playing ...

No one is or has been forcing you to watch Spanish crowds that you qualify as scum.

 

[_phantom]

Although she was not wearing her rosy glasses in that photo, it's not too difficult for us to guess who she is on this site

 

[BeatlesFan]

Ummm, what can he do, threaten to kick them all out?? Make them stay after for detention?? They are the PAYING CUSTOMERS!!

I love how people who didn’t watch the match wade into it with opinions. Very few people here are watching a third round Rune match. I watched it all and Bernardas is a disgrace.

That was the most obnoxious tennis crowd I have ever heard in my life, and I have watched an awful lot of tennis. He did nothing to control that disgusting crowd.