Soft, Durable Multi for Hybrid

hoodjem

G.O.A.T.
I am planning to put in a hybrid of Volkl Cyclone 19g or Technifibre Black Code 4S 18g in the mains (to increase spin), and a soft multi in the crosses to assuage my lingering TE. (Volkl Cyclone 18g is RSI stiffness rated at 208, and Technifibre Black Code 4S 17g has a stiffness of 199 RSI.)

I have enjoyed a similar set-up with Dunlop Black Widow 18g mains, with Pro Supex Maxim Touch 17g in the crosses. But I imagine the 19g Volkl with eat up the crosses fairly quickly.

Can anyone recommend a soft and durable, inexpensive multi like the Pro Supex (which TW does not sell) to pair with the Volkl Cyclone 19g?
 
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BlueB

Legend
Durable multi? Joke, right?
Why not the Zyex cross? Apparently it's softer them multi, yet more durable and more slippery.
 
Prince Premier Control 15 is the most durable multi cross I've used. In a hybrid with 19g poly mains, I wouldn't be surprised if the poly snapped first.
 

DrumWizOHBD

Semi-Pro
I like Dunlop Hexy Fiber 16 cross with softer Poly in the mains for durability/cost ratio. It you think maxim touch is a durable multi in the cross, then I think you could get away with testing quite a few other multis and see which one you like. Why not stick with Maxim Touch? I actually loved Maxim touch in the cross myself, but I broke it quick for me even with round poly mains like Cyber Flash or Big Hitter Blue. So, I get better durability out of gosen syn gut, albeit at the price of comfort, power and feel. On of my favorite Poly/Multi Hybrids is the prepackaged Volkl Psycho: I always break the cross before either string goes dead. I have gone through quite a few sets of Volkl V-MAXX hybrid, which uses V-Wrap as the softer synthetic string. Even though, V-Wrap isn't a true multi, it's a high end synthetic gut, it's nice a slippery as a cross and is fairly soft a med-low powered but with a nice pocketing feel, I find it's quite durable. I played it in the mains and kept trying to get them to break, and they just kind of kept stretching and losing their snap back instead of breaking. Gosen has a few coated, sold core, synthetic guts that are likely similar to v-wrap. Having said all this, I also recommend the Prince Control. I just stocked up on Volkl sales a while back, and have been using them for a about a year or so.

I've actually started using Cyclone 18 mains with Cyber Flash 16L cross, strung about 4 lb lower than I do with Poly/Multi
 

DrumWizOHBD

Semi-Pro
I am planning to put in a hybrid of Volkl Cyclone 19g in the mains (to increase the spin), and a soft multi in the crosses to assuage my lingering TE.

I have enjoyed a similar set-up with Dunlop Black Widow 18g mains, with Pro Supex Maxim Touch 17g in the crosses. But I imagine the 19g Volkl with eat up the crosses fairly quickly.

Can anyone recommend a soft and durable multi like the Pro Supex (which TW does not sell) to pair with the Volkl Cyclone 19g?
FWIW, I tried the Cyclone 19 in a full bed and got less spin than the 17 or 18g. The 19g seemed to have some extra bite at first, but after 30 minutes of groundstrokes, it kind of went bland for me. Side-by-side, I was getting bigger kick serves, and more wicked slice serves with the thicker gauges. The 19g did have a lot more power though.
 

Kenny022593

Professional
Following above posters, Premier Control is one of the more durable multis that I have played, even in 16g. Wilson Sensation would also be a good choice.
 

hoodjem

G.O.A.T.
I like Dunlop Hexy Fiber 16 cross with softer Poly in the mains for durability/cost ratio. It you think maxim touch is a durable multi in the cross, then I think you could get away with testing quite a few other multis and see which one you like. Why not stick with Maxim Touch? I actually loved Maxim touch in the cross myself, but I broke it quick for me even with round poly mains like Cyber Flash or Big Hitter Blue. So, I get better durability out of gosen syn gut, albeit at the price of comfort, power and feel.

On of my favorite Poly/Multi Hybrids is the prepackaged Volkl Psycho: I always break the cross before either string goes dead. I have gone through quite a few sets of Volkl V-MAXX hybrid, which uses V-Wrap as the softer synthetic string. Even though, V-Wrap isn't a true multi, it's a high end synthetic gut, it's nice a slippery as a cross and is fairly soft a med-low powered but with a nice pocketing feel, I find it's quite durable. I played it in the mains and kept trying to get them to break, and they just kind of kept stretching and losing their snap back instead of breaking.

Gosen has a few coated, sold core, synthetic guts that are likely similar to v-wrap. Having said all this, I also recommend the Prince Control. I just stocked up on Volkl sales a while back, and have been using them for a about a year or so.

I've actually started using Cyclone 18 mains with Cyber Flash 16L cross, strung about 4 lb lower than I do with Poly/Multi
I do like the feel of Maxim Touch, but unfortunately TW does not sell it. I am trying to get strings from the same source to minimize shipping costs.

I have tried Dunlop Hexy Fiber and Wilson Sensation. Both worked pretty well.

Thanks for the suggestions.
 

hoodjem

G.O.A.T.
Has anyone tried Gosen OG Sheep Micro Super?

I have tried regular Gosen OGSM 17g, which is pretty nice but not that soft.

The 16L Super is supposed to be rather soft.

Dunlop Pearl and Volkl Classic Synthetic Gut 16g are also soft possibilities.
 
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Ramon

Legend
Has anyone tried Gosen OG Sheep Micro Super?

I have tried Gosen OGSM 17g, which is pretty nice but not that soft.

The 16L Super is supposed to be rather soft.

OGSM is not a multi, it's a monofilament synthetic. I actually prefer solid cores strings as crosses because they don't fray as much and tend to last longer as cross strings. They tend to be stiffer than multis, but since you have poly mains anyway it really doesn't matter that much. If you don't mind paying a bit more, Gamma TNT2 is soft for a solid core string.
 

fuzz nation

G.O.A.T.
Agree with the recommendation for Forten Sweet - so soft that I think it can be a decent substitute for a multi. Also quite affordable string.

I've been impressed on more than one occasion with the durability of Yonex 850 multi and I'm not much of a fan of this string type.
 

hoodjem

G.O.A.T.
OGSM is not a multi, it's a monofilament synthetic. I actually prefer solid cores strings as crosses because they don't fray as much and tend to last longer as cross strings. They tend to be stiffer than multis, but since you have poly mains anyway it really doesn't matter that much. If you don't mind paying a bit more, Gamma TNT2 is soft for a solid core string.
True that. And very good point about not fraying as much.

Heck, if it is a soft and durable, and a synth gut that does not cost a bunch--then so much the better.
 

hoodjem

G.O.A.T.
have used OGSM 16 and 17. better choice for softness would be Forten Sweet.
Yes, I have used OGSM 16 and 17 also. But I am referring to OGSM Super, which is a different string from OGSM.

(Forten Sweet is not soft--it's just slick and mushy.)
 

Doc Hollidae

Hall of Fame
$21.95

YIPES!

I have a doubles partner that played with Cyclone mains and Bi Phase Crosses. Gave him a set of Origin and he made the switch instantly. Origin has lasted him twice as long as Bi-Phase and provides the same performance and feel, so he feels that justifies the higher cost. Bi-Phase ain't much cheap either....
 

hoodjem

G.O.A.T.
I have a doubles partner that played with Cyclone mains and Bi Phase Crosses. Gave him a set of Origin and he made the switch instantly. Origin has lasted him twice as long as Bi-Phase and provides the same performance and feel, so he feels that justifies the higher cost. Bi-Phase ain't much cheap either....
That's true.
 

eelhc

Hall of Fame
I've not had good luck with a Hybrid Cyclone setup. I find it plays best on a full bed. I would just recommend lowering the tension for comfort
 

hoodjem

G.O.A.T.
I've not had good luck with a Hybrid Cyclone setup. I find it plays best on a full bed. I would just recommend lowering the tension for comfort
Sorry, with lingering TE I am not going to try a full-bed of poly. (I won't even whisper the word "Kevlar".)
 

hoodjem

G.O.A.T.
Right now it is between Prince Premier Control 15L (159), Iso-Speed Control Classic 16 (154), and and Volkl Classic Synthetic Gut 16g (168).
 
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hoodjem

G.O.A.T.
Volkl V-Star 16g is RSI rated at 188; 17g is rated at 180.
18g is estimated at 172.

Volkl V-Star 19 g is RSI rated at 164 (est.).
ISO-Speed Touch V-18 is RSI rated at 156.
 
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hoodjem

G.O.A.T.
Right now it is between Prince Premier Control 15L (159), Iso-Speed Control Classic 16 (154), and and Volkl Classic Synthetic Gut 16g (168).
Thanks everyone for your suggestions and opinions.

I ended up getting the Prince Premier Control 15L for durable crosses, and some Volkl Cyclone Tour 18g for the mains.
 

hoodjem

G.O.A.T.
Sadly, nope. Strange white stuff all over the ground, plus all the nets have been removed for storage.
 

Christian Olsson

Professional
I have a doubles partner that played with Cyclone mains and Bi Phase Crosses. Gave him a set of Origin and he made the switch instantly. Origin has lasted him twice as long as Bi-Phase and provides the same performance and feel, so he feels that justifies the higher cost. Bi-Phase ain't much cheap either....

I love the origin in a hybrid strung 22/20 with 4g crosses but never thought going full bed. Strung at 24-25 full bed origin may be even better? I find it notches pretty quick for me in the mains. Maybe not notching in full bed then?


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