Softer Cross Alternative of Triax/Soft Poly?

[robycat]

Hey folks, I got a wrist injury after trying some polys (which I shouldn't do anymore ).

After some rest now I am getting back to my normal setup Triax 1.33 / Ghostwire 1.27. Although I don't feel any pain when playing, I can feel some soreness the next day. So I am asking what can be a softer cross alternative if I want to keep Triax in the main.

Some softer polys are mentioned fairly frequently, like Isospeed Cream, MSV Swift, and Yonex Poly Tour Air. Are there any even softer choices that can keep decent spin and control? Maybe Multifeel Black? Velocity?

Thanks,

 

[ChanterRacquet]

Multifeel won’t last super long but sure. I can feel the stiffness in Velocity. Element feels softer than Ghostwire, Revolve rates low on stiffness too, finally got some sets of YPTA but haven’t had the opportunity to string them up yet.

 

[Tennisist]

Forten ZX - slippery as poly, soft as a syn gut.

 

[kevonian]

Velocity MLT or full softness with natural gut

 

[tele]

i found warrior response softer than cream, which is supposedly softer than ghostwire. why not a full bed of triax if you are considering velocity crosses?

for spin and comfort, i think monogut zx is great as a cross, but the power takes a little getting used to

also, what racquet and string tension are you using?

 

[Trip]

@robycat - Before jumping down the string tweak rabbit hole, where/how are you feeling soreness? Perhaps it's related to something other than just the string bed?

 

[SOY78]

1.1mm or 1.2mm fishing line is great for a really soft crosses

 

[robycat]

@robycat - Before jumping down the string tweak rabbit hole, where/how are you feeling soreness? Perhaps it's related to something other than just the string bed?

It's my downside wrist. I think my wrist is not 100% recovered from my last injury. Although I can play tennis pain-free, the next day my wrist feels a bit tight, especially when I turn my palm toward my face.

 

[robycat]

i found warrior response softer than cream, which is supposedly softer than ghostwire. why not a full bed of triax if you are considering velocity crosses?

for spin and comfort, i think monogut zx is great as a cross, but the power takes a little getting used to

also, what racquet and string tension are you using?

I think Multifeel Black and Velocity are more slippery than Triax, so the stringbed can generate more spin?

Is Monogut ZX too powerful or too un-powerful? Is it even more powerful than Multi Strings?

I am using Prince Phantom 100x 305 2020. Tension is 50/48.

 

[tele]

I think Multifeel Black and Velocity are more slippery than Triax, so the stringbed can generate more spin?

Is Monogut ZX too powerful or too un-powerful? Is it even more powerful than Multi Strings?

I am using Prince Phantom 100x 305 2020. Tension is 50/48.

Monogut ZX is the most powerful string I have used (I have never splurged on natural gut, though)

Your racquet should be arm friendly enough. Same with the tension. Triax, on the other hand, while softer than poly, is not the softest multi around. I would consider trying a full bed of multifeel. Multifeel crosses also might be worth a try with triax mains. However, I am skeptical you would get much more spin than a full bed of triax if you threw velocity in the crosses. Velocity is super slick for a little while, but the coating doesn't last that long.

I am not sure what your wrist issue is, but I wouldn't take wrist pain lightly. I injured my TFCC a long time ago and it took forever to heal. You might want to have a coach look at your technique to make sure you aren't using your wrist improperly. Good luck!

 

[born_hard]

My wrist has injured 2 years ago. It was really bad for 1 year with ups and downs. I was playing with different rackets and strings but in the end i am very sensitive in the wrist area.

What i do nowadays is a triple protection with a brace, with a folded cardboard and tape around the wrist. The protection is very effective and it doesnt limit me in playing . Wrist movement is overrated anyways. Try it and you will see that you can play even with softer Polys. Watch out also for overall weight, stiffness and swingweight of the racket.

 

[robycat]

My wrist has injured 2 years ago. It was really bad for 1 year with ups and downs. I was playing with different rackets and strings but in the end i am very sensitive in the wrist area.

What i do nowadays is a triple protection with a brace, with a folded cardboard and tape around the wrist. The protection is very effective and it doesnt limit me in playing . Wrist movement is overrated anyways. Try it and you will see that you can play even with softer Polys. Watch out also for overall weight, stiffness and swingweight of the racket.

Could you recommend a brace? This sounds promising

 

[born_hard]

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There is a rail inside the brace on the palm site. That helps a lot for stability.

The brace shouldnt be thicker/bigger neither shorter or smaller. Thats a good size.

 

[born_hard]

I guess the pain is on the outside of your palm in the little finger area. Put a small folded cardboard with a length about 1 inch into this area and tape it around the whole wrist in addition to the brace

 

[robycat]

I tried both Triax/Cream and Triax/Multifeel Black.

I think they are both marginally softer than Triax/Ghostwire. When fresh, they both have good control and spin. I don't feel my usual setup, Triax/Ghost, is superior. But they lose most of snapback after 4 hours of play. I feel it affects spin potential but maybe it is just in my mind. Triax/Ghostwire can hold snapback for at least 7~8 hours for me.

So these are the Pros and Cons.

 

[VanDerVaart23]

@robycat I once did Triax mains and Grapplesnake Tour sniper crosses
Snapback lasted forever. In general felt firm, but I think Triax itself is a firm string.

 

[PD1978]

Have you tried gut mains???

 

[robycat]

@robycat I once did Triax mains and Grapplesnake Tour sniper crosses
Snapback lasted forever. In general felt firm, but I think Triax itself is a firm string.

Hmm interesting. Have you tried Grapplesnake Tour M8 crosses with Triax? I think the Tour M8 might have a better comfort?

 

[robycat]

Have you tried gut mains???

Yes I did, but I think gut main is way too powerful for me and so hard for me to control

 

[Operation20]

Sorry to hear about your wrist injury. I would start with the following:

1. Ensure your racquet is not too heavy in either static weight or swingweight to the extent of risking further aggravation of your injury
2. Check your racquet stiffness rating and vibration levels (Hz) using TW tool. Ideally low stiffness and low vibration is best.
3. Consider trying gut in the crosses or looking at gut with different characteristics. For example; Luxilon natural gut has less power and more control than babolat vs touch, and more spin.
4. One of the least stiff polys I can find at present is hyper g soft. I've compared dozens and dozens of poly strings over many weeks and have considered the characteristics of each due to a shoulder injiry I have.
5. See a doctor and physiotherapist if you haven't already to manage the wrist injury.

I hope this helps you a little bit.

EDIT: The softest poly right how is actually yonex poly tour air. Review below:

https://www.tennis-warehouse.com/learning_center/reviews/strings/yonex_polytour_air.html?pcode=YPTA125BL

 

[EggSalad]

OGSM is an excellent cross for Triax.