lose the poly in the mains.What is the most comfort crosses in the all world for spin and control??
I need to preserve my arm and I'm searching great comfort crosses for my Double AR Diablo 1.24 soft poly mains.
Thanks for help!
What is the most comfort crosses in the all world for spin and control??
I need to preserve my arm and I'm searching great comfort crosses for my Double AR Diablo 1.24 soft poly mains.
Thanks for help!
Everybody tell me that but gut is so much expensive...... And my poly Double AR Diablo is structured, so it will destroy the gut really quickly.....lose the poly in the mains.
Try gut in the main and your poly in the cross.
Poly/sgut or Poly/multi can be an option. But with shaped mains and strong strokes, the crosses won't last very long. Also, there is a compromise with the hybrid that you have to be willing to accept.Everybody tell me that but gut is so much expensive...... And my poly Double AR Diablo is structured, so it will destroy the gut really quickly.....
What about a really good sgut or multi in the crosses?? Not good deal at all???
You are right. I have to explain more.Poly/sgut or Poly/multi can be an option. But with shaped mains and strong strokes, the crosses won't last very long. Also, there is a compromise with the hybrid that you have to be willing to accept.
Spin potential + arm friendly + good value is a common goal for a lot of folks on the forum. There are some good options out there. But it really depends on the individual.
I think there are several factors to consider:
1) player skill level (more importantly, Are you a string breaker?)
a) how often do you currently re-string?2) how soft do you need to go? Current/past injury/pain or preventative
3) do you string your own racquet?
For me, I'm not a string breaker, I currently re-string every 20hrs on a gut/multi hybrid
My arm is sensitive now and I'm trying to get as much mileage out of my body as possible
I string my own racquet so it's only the cost of strings and my time.
Most of my groundstrokes are hit with topspin and I have a topspin/kicker serve. But I don't need max spin nor can I produce it. I get all the performance, comfort and feel out of gut/multi. When the cross wears out in 15-20hrs, I cut out the cross and re-string with another half set. Then when that wears out, I cut out the gut too and start all over again. This way, it's no more expensive than playing with a full bed of good multi.
My son hits way harder and with a ton more spin. I re-string his racquet every 12hrs.
Our cost for strings is about the same per hour of play. So my gut option is not really more than my son's poly option.
But to just answer your initial question, some "softer poly" might be:
Isospeed Cream
Cyclone Tour
Gosen Sidewinder
What's your cue that you need to re-string? Can you feel it going dead in 11hrs or is this some rule of thumb you've gathered from research?I am heavy spin player at 4.0 level.
I don't break my Diablo 1.24, I always cut it at max 10 hours of play.
I feel it going too much dead for my liking at 10hours of play. And it lose lot of tension in 10hours and becoming trampoline...What's your cue that you need to re-string? Can you feel it going dead in 11hrs or is this some rule of thumb you've gathered from research?
You could try stringing a little lower tension and/or string a bit more frequently.
I've not heard of many people that have gone from full bed of their favorite poly to a hybrid and really liked it. It's always going to be a compromise. Plus, I've found that with sgut hybrid, as the poly loses tension, the stringbed gains power.
Everybody tell me that but gut is so much expensive...... And my poly Double AR Diablo is structured, so it will destroy the gut really quickly.....
What about a really good sgut or multi in the crosses?? Not good deal at all???
Lose the poly before you damage arm...no fun....and worse, shoulder...really bad news....I dont know why people risk not being able to play just to string like a Nadal..etc...You are right. I have to explain more.
I am heavy spin player at 4.0 level.
I actually play with Pure Aero and Double AR Diablo 1.24 and I love it a lot.
But I played and still want to play a lot but my arm is starting to get tired... And I want, need to preserve it.
SO I just want to keep the feeling of my Diablo in mains and find a perfect cross to add more comfort, and control if possible!!
I will try tomorrow the Pro's Pro Synthetic 1.35 in the crosses. Will see what happen.... And next week I will try Prince Premier Control and Power as a cross... Will see too!!
But if you already know a GREAT comfort, spin and control crosses, PLEASE let me know!!!!!
I don't break my Diablo 1.24, I always cut it at max 10 hours of play.
I don't string. But I have a really good stringer!!
Thanks for help!!!!!![]()
I will try hybrid Origin/Velocity.Lose the poly before you damage arm...no fun....and worse, shoulder...really bad news....I dont know why people risk not being able to play just to string like a Nadal..etc...
It is a monofilament Polyvinylidene Flouride with high lubricity integral to the string. Not polyester.NO POLY please.
Feedbacks are terrible and it is overpriced....It is a monofilament Polyvinylidene Flouride with high lubricity integral to the string. Not polyester.
To each his own!!! I love it. Strung at 53, mains at 48. In Aeropro.Feedbacks are terrible and it is overpriced....![]()
Happy for youTo each his own!!! I love it. Strung at 53, mains at 48. In Aeropro.
With Solinco tourbite 20. No arm or shoulder issues, great pocketing & combo of power & spin.
Gut is not so expensive if it lasts several times longer with poly crosses than a full bed of poly, and is more comfy to boot.
How will gut/poly last longer than full poly??
Thats the first time I heard that, everywhere I read its a basic understanding than full poly takes much longer to break than gut/poly.
Gut snaps and breaks much quicker.
Now if you break ur poly every week omagine breaking gut 2 times per week.
Price would be astronomical.
I've broken 18 g poly strings in 90 minutes. I've got a set-up in one racquet with Babolat Tonic 15L Gut mains and Solinco Outlast 17 poly crosses, and the Gut mains are going on 20 hours of play and still look very good, a little fraying but a lot of life left. There is a common perception that Gut is not very durable, but I think that is more true for a full bed than a Gut/poly hybrid.
Have you ever actually tried a gut/poly hybrid?
More power to you ...however I see players here seeking guidance to stay out of the weekend warrior syndrome.....play a little get hurt a lot... As I went thru the minefield of finding out the truth about how influential string can be on the health of the tennis anatomy...Nobody was out there advising players how harsh poly can be on the arm...I played a half dozen racquets that were highly recommended that came strung with poly and hated the boardy stiff feel, that would have aggravated my TE thinking it was the racquets fault...Anyway....sensitive arm....NO POLYTo each his own!!! I love it. Strung at 53, mains at 48. In Aeropro.
With Solinco tourbite 20. No arm or shoulder issues, great pocketing & combo of power & spin.
A little tip for gut......use super glue to coat at the fray points......I've broken 18 g poly strings in 90 minutes. I've got a set-up in one racquet with Babolat Tonic 15L Gut mains and Solinco Outlast 17 poly crosses, and the Gut mains are going on 20 hours of play and still look very good, a little fraying but a lot of life left. There is a common perception that Gut is not very durable, but I think that is more true for a full bed than a Gut/poly hybrid.
Have you ever actually tried a gut/poly hybrid?
How will gut/poly last longer than full poly??
Thats the first time I heard that, everywhere I read its a basic understanding than full poly takes much longer to break than gut/poly.
Gut snaps and breaks much quicker.
Now if you break ur poly every week omagine breaking gut 2 times per week.
Price would be astronomical.
I break full poly in half the time I break gut/poly. Gut is durable with a round cross.How will gut/poly last longer than full poly??
Thats the first time I heard that, everywhere I read its a basic understanding than full poly takes much longer to break than gut/poly.
Gut snaps and breaks much quicker.
Now if you break ur poly every week omagine breaking gut 2 times per week.
Price would be astronomical.
What do you use as main?Ashaway Dynamite 16g Tough! I have been using this for a while as a cross, REALLY nice. It is NOT a poly.
Gut mains. Either Lux gut, Pacific Prime gut, Pacific Tough gut. In that preference.What do you use as main?
Well that is just it. It depends on a lot of things. Tension, Frame, Gauge........and technique. And yep, you just might have a sensitive arm.More power to you ...however I see players here seeking guidance to stay out of the weekend warrior syndrome.....play a little get hurt a lot... As I went thru the minefield of finding out the truth about how influential string can be on the health of the tennis anatomy...Nobody was out there advising players how harsh poly can be on the arm...I played a half dozen racquets that were highly recommended that came strung with poly and hated the boardy stiff feel, that would have aggravated my TE thinking it was the racquets fault...Anyway....sensitive arm....NO POLY
I had forgot about this string. You are exactly correct about it being the softest multi string.The softest string I've ever tried (and I've been stringing since 1979) is called Vollmer Boris Becker Super String. It's actually too soft. When you string it, you'll pull, have to clamp it off, then pull again because it stretches so much your pull will reach it's limits before the string is done stretching. It's a little hard to find, but if you want the softest, this is it.
Quite stiff... And dead quickly.Weiss Cannon Ultra Cable 17 is very comfortable. Use is in my 2013 APDs. One of the softest polys out there. Read the TW review.
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I will try first O/V natural 16.My gut/poly hybrid is going strong after about 12 hours of serious play, and 6 hours of hitting with my lessons (much softer hitting). I’d expect to get another 3-4 sets of play, or 1-2 good hours of drilling out of it. I bought Babolat Tonic while it was on sale here, so a half set worked out to $12. I used Kirschbaum Pro Line X crosses, which I bought reels of when TW had an insane deal—I think I bought 2 reels for $89.95 TOTAL. Meaning that half sets work out to $1.4 USD each. This hybrid costs under $15 and plays better longer than any full poly or poly/multi hybrid. Just saying.
Interesting!There's another very soft & spin friendly cross that's worth mentioning - Klip Armour Pro.
It's a very unique string - Natural Gut core with a poly-like outer, making it slippery.
Can be hard to get hold of.
It plays well.
That is not sure...Babolat gut is the best.Babolat Nat gut in Aus and almost as good...