Solinco Confidential vs Grapplesnake Tour M8

tsgiv

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Hi, I wanted to get some opinions on those who have hit with Grapplesnake's Tour M8 or Tour Sniper as well as Solinco Confidential. How do the strings compare? Any characteristic differences? Even if you haven't hit with both, if you've tried Grapplesnake strings please feel free to share your thoughts on it as well as your setup. I'm currently using Confidential 17 at 55lbs, considering a switch to Grapplesnake Tour M8. I hit with the Blade Pro 18x20 with a couple grams of lead at 3&9.

Thanks!
 

Trip

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Solinco Confidential vs Grapplesnake Tour M8
Full-Bed Comparison

Spin: C = M8 -- C has higher string-to-ball friction, M8 better snapback; C better spin at lower RHS, M8 better spin at higher RHS
Power: M8 > C -- M8 has noticeably more snap and energy return
Control: Roughly Equal -- C gets control from its spin and low power, M8 gets control from it's linear power return and very high launch predictability
Launch Angle: C > M8 -- C's fewer sides and sharper edges impart more grip/grab, clawing the ball up off the string bed slightly more aggressively than M8
Touch: M8 >= C -- M8 is slightly more crisp yet also more supple, transmitting a bit more of what's happening in the string bed to the handle
Stiffness: M8 >= C -- M8 is more stiff but in a less overt way and more "after the fact", ie. you feel it more after playing than while you're playing
Comfort: C = M8 -- Both are medium-stiff and minimally to moderately comfortable as far as polys go
Durability: M8 >= C -- M8 will hold it's edge sharpness, surface composition and snapback a bit longer
Tension Maintenance: C >= M8 -- M8 has slightly more initial tension drop, but after settling loses tension very gradually, similar to C

As far as tension goes for full-bed M8 1.25 in a BP 18x20, I wouldn't string much above 50-ish (eCP); more than likely I'd think mid-upper 40's would give you all the DT you'd need in that frame.
 
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tsgiv

New User
Solinco Confidential vs Grapplesnake Tour M8
Full-Bed Comparison

Spin: C = M7 -- C has higher string-to-ball friction, M8 better snapback; C better spin at lower RHS, M8 better spin at higher RHS
Power: M8 > C -- M8 has noticeably more snap and energy return
Control: Roughly Equal -- C gets control from its spin and low power, M8 gets control from it's linear power return and very high launch predictability
Launch Angle: C > M8 -- C's fewer sides and sharper edges impart more grip/grab, clawing the ball up off the string bed slightly more aggressively than M8
Touch: M8 >= C -- M8 is slightly more crisp yet also more supple, transmitting a bit more of what's happening in the string bed to the handle
Stiffness: M8 >= C -- M8 is more stiff but in a less overt way and more "after the fact", ie. you feel it more after playing than while you're playing
Comfort: C = M8 -- Both are medium-stiff and minimally to moderately comfortable as far as polys go
Durability: M8 >= C -- M8 will hold it's edge sharpness, surface composition and snapback a bit longer
Tension Maintenance: C >= M8 -- M8 has slightly more initial tension drop, but after settling loses tension very gradually, similar to C

As far as tension goes for full-bed M8 1.25 in a BP 18x20, I wouldn't string much about 50-ish (eCP); more than likely I'd think mid-upper 40's would give you all the DT you'd need in that frame.

Really appreciate your analysis, will definitely try to demo M8, at least on paper M8 seems to fit how I like play (higher RHS, more placement focused and taking balls early), I need to check how available it is here in Canada but otherwise it seems like it shouldn't be a new world of a transition.

Thanks!
 

tsgiv

New User
You're stringing way to high.
You're probably right, I do enjoy my current setup though, after the initial tension drop, C17 feels great in the frame, gives me a great balance of control, power and predictability IMO. I haven't felt any sorts of discomfort from this setup even after hitting with it for a couple of months. Wasn't even considering switching strings until I tried M8 in a friend's Blade 18x20 and really enjoyed the feel of it. Grapplesnake strings seem to be more conducive to stringing in the mid to high 40s anyways, so IG I'll find out.
 

Roketz

New User
Solinco Confidential vs Grapplesnake Tour M8
Full-Bed Comparison

Spin: C = M7 -- C has higher string-to-ball friction, M8 better snapback; C better spin at lower RHS, M8 better spin at higher RHS
Power: M8 > C -- M8 has noticeably more snap and energy return
Control: Roughly Equal -- C gets control from its spin and low power, M8 gets control from it's linear power return and very high launch predictability
Launch Angle: C > M8 -- C's fewer sides and sharper edges impart more grip/grab, clawing the ball up off the string bed slightly more aggressively than M8
Touch: M8 >= C -- M8 is slightly more crisp yet also more supple, transmitting a bit more of what's happening in the string bed to the handle
Stiffness: M8 >= C -- M8 is more stiff but in a less overt way and more "after the fact", ie. you feel it more after playing than while you're playing
Comfort: C = M8 -- Both are medium-stiff and minimally to moderately comfortable as far as polys go
Durability: M8 >= C -- M8 will hold it's edge sharpness, surface composition and snapback a bit longer
Tension Maintenance: C >= M8 -- M8 has slightly more initial tension drop, but after settling loses tension very gradually, similar to C

As far as tension goes for full-bed M8 1.25 in a BP 18x20, I wouldn't string much above 50-ish (eCP); more than likely I'd think mid-upper 40's would give you all the DT you'd need in that frame.
@Trip what is the playability duration of both setups for you?
 
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