Solinco Hyper G

I'm a 4.0 player, play with the K90. I have been trying out various strings to come up with something that works ok for my playing style, and here is what I've tried:

1. Yonex Poly Tour Pro 16L @52: Very plush and easy on the arm, but lost tension in about 4 hours.
2. Head Velocity 16 @ 58, Head Velocity 17 @ 60: Very easy on the arm, but both combos were too powerful for me.
3. Babolat Synthetic gut @ 60: Not as plush as the ones above and still a little too powerful. Not durable though, broke in 3 hours.
4. Head PPS @ 60: Broke in 3 hours.
5. Wilson synthetic gut, Wilson Sensation: All too powerful for me.

I'm about to try Solinco Hyper G, 17 gauge. Any suggestions on a tension that would still be somewhat comfortable on the arm?
 

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I'm a 4.0 player, play with the K90. I have been trying out various strings to come up with something that works ok for my playing style, and here is what I've tried:

1. Yonex Poly Tour Pro 16L @52: Very plush and easy on the arm, but lost tension in about 4 hours.
2. Head Velocity 16 @ 58, Head Velocity 17 @ 60: Very easy on the arm, but both combos were too powerful for me.
3. Babolat Synthetic gut @ 60: Not as plush as the ones above and still a little too powerful. Not durable though, broke in 3 hours.
4. Head PPS @ 60: Broke in 3 hours.
5. Wilson synthetic gut, Wilson Sensation: All too powerful for me.

I'm about to try Solinco Hyper G, 17 gauge. Any suggestions on a tension that would still be somewhat comfortable on the arm?

I play with the Prince Textreme Tour 100P and I use a full bed of Hyper G in the low fifties. Plenty comfort in that range and I’ve suffered with Golfers elbow a little while back.


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I'm a 4.0 player, play with the K90. I have been trying out various strings to come up with something that works ok for my playing style, and here is what I've tried:

1. Yonex Poly Tour Pro 16L @52: Very plush and easy on the arm, but lost tension in about 4 hours.
2. Head Velocity 16 @ 58, Head Velocity 17 @ 60: Very easy on the arm, but both combos were too powerful for me.
3. Babolat Synthetic gut @ 60: Not as plush as the ones above and still a little too powerful. Not durable though, broke in 3 hours.
4. Head PPS @ 60: Broke in 3 hours.
5. Wilson synthetic gut, Wilson Sensation: All too powerful for me.

I'm about to try Solinco Hyper G, 17 gauge. Any suggestions on a tension that would still be somewhat comfortable on the arm?
48#
 

beltsman

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I'm a 4.0 player, play with the K90. I have been trying out various strings to come up with something that works ok for my playing style, and here is what I've tried:

1. Yonex Poly Tour Pro 16L @52: Very plush and easy on the arm, but lost tension in about 4 hours.
2. Head Velocity 16 @ 58, Head Velocity 17 @ 60: Very easy on the arm, but both combos were too powerful for me.
3. Babolat Synthetic gut @ 60: Not as plush as the ones above and still a little too powerful. Not durable though, broke in 3 hours.
4. Head PPS @ 60: Broke in 3 hours.
5. Wilson synthetic gut, Wilson Sensation: All too powerful for me.

I'm about to try Solinco Hyper G, 17 gauge. Any suggestions on a tension that would still be somewhat comfortable on the arm?

45-52 lbs

Hyper-G is the bomb.
 

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48 +/- few pounds. You will have to experiment.

I would also recommend Kirschbaum polys like Max Power, Max Power Rough, Pro Line II etc; that brand polys last longer than others, playability wise!
 

SavvyStringer

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Thanks all for the replies. I will start with 48 and experiment from there.

Excellent reference tension for that sting. Don't go over 52 with HyperG. After 52 you've taken all of the elasticity from the string prior to even hitting it. I string it between 40 and 46 depending on time of year and frame. Currently playing with Tourbite 20 mains and 17 crosses in a PS97S at 40.
 
I’ll be an outlier. I use a full bed of Hyper G at 56 in Pure Strike 98 Project and 57 in Pure Drive Plus. I used Tour Bite at similar tensions, prior to Hyper G. When I string with synthetic gut, my tension is 61-62 for control. I hit heavy topspin and slice on both sides.


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I'm a 4.0 player, play with the K90. I have been trying out various strings to come up with something that works ok for my playing style, and here is what I've tried:

1. Yonex Poly Tour Pro 16L @52: Very plush and easy on the arm, but lost tension in about 4 hours.
2. Head Velocity 16 @ 58, Head Velocity 17 @ 60: Very easy on the arm, but both combos were too powerful for me.
3. Babolat Synthetic gut @ 60: Not as plush as the ones above and still a little too powerful. Not durable though, broke in 3 hours.
4. Head PPS @ 60: Broke in 3 hours.
5. Wilson synthetic gut, Wilson Sensation: All too powerful for me.

I'm about to try Solinco Hyper G, 17 gauge. Any suggestions on a tension that would still be somewhat comfortable on the arm?

In my Volkl SG10 mp I have it at 21/20 15% prestretch but I'll go with 10% prestretch and 20/19 next time. It's a stiff feeling string. Compared to for instance Sonic pro 17 at 24/23 it's night and day. I hope this helps.
 

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Excellent reference tension for that sting. Don't go over 52 with HyperG. After 52 you've taken all of the elasticity from the string prior to even hitting it. I string it between 40 and 46 depending on time of year and frame. Currently playing with Tourbite 20 mains and 17 crosses in a PS97S at 40.
spot on...in my experience that advice of not going over 52lb is great for all modern gen polys...
 
In my Volkl SG10 mp I have it at 21/20 15% prestretch but I'll go with 10% prestretch and 20/19 next time. It's a stiff feeling string. Compared to for instance Sonic pro 17 at 24/23 it's night and day. I hope this helps.
thank you! 2 questions:
1. Does pre-stretching the string lead to better tension maintenance?
2. I use a DW stringer. How do I pre-stretch with this stringer?
 

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thank you! 2 questions:
1. Does pre-stretching the string lead to better tension maintenance?
2. I use a DW stringer. How do I pre-stretch with this stringer?
In theory yes it leads to better tension maintenance because there’s less initial stretch to lose as the string settles. On a drop weight or a crank you just double pull. So tension the string, release, and retension. A lot of people will prestretch gut, multi, and even syn gut to take some elasticity out because they think it prevents string movement or because they think it holds tension better after prestretch. Personally I don’t prestretch any string unless requested by the player.
 
In theory yes it leads to better tension maintenance because there’s less initial stretch to lose as the string settles. On a drop weight or a crank you just double pull. So tension the string, release, and retension. A lot of people will prestretch gut, multi, and even syn gut to take some elasticity out because they think it prevents string movement or because they think it holds tension better after prestretch. Personally I don’t prestretch any string unless requested by the player.
Thanks for the reply !
 

Christian Olsson

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In theory yes it leads to better tension maintenance because there’s less initial stretch to lose as the string settles. On a drop weight or a crank you just double pull. So tension the string, release, and retension. A lot of people will prestretch gut, multi, and even syn gut to take some elasticity out because they think it prevents string movement or because they think it holds tension better after prestretch. Personally I don’t prestretch any string unless requested by the player.

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Excellent reference tension for that sting. Don't go over 52 with HyperG. After 52 you've taken all of the elasticity from the string prior to even hitting it. I string it between 40 and 46 depending on time of year and frame. Currently playing with Tourbite 20 mains and 17 crosses in a PS97S at 40.
I may have asked you this question before. But how does HyperG compare with Tourbite?
My son uses HyperG 18@49 in a Pure Strike 98. A couple of his teammates are using Tourbite 17@50 in the same racquet. These 2 happen to be the top 2 players on his HS team (son is #3).

BTW, I was hitting with my son over the weekend. I noticed he was spraying the ball and just had a difficult time hitting a consistent shot. By the middle of practice, he complained of shoulder pain. He sat for 10min while I just worked on serves. Then he grabbed his other racquet (with fresh strings) and he was hitting very consistently. It was like 2 different players. By the end of practice session, he said his shoulder was feeling better.

Now last weekend, I had RT'd his racquet and told him that tensions are close to being dead and needing a re-stringing. For those that don't believe in the effects of dead poly, I can only provide observations that lead to this conclusion. And this is from a junior player that can beat 4.5 adults.
 

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I may have asked you this question before. But how does HyperG compare with Tourbite?
My son uses HyperG 18@49 in a Pure Strike 98. A couple of his teammates are using Tourbite 17@50 in the same racquet. These 2 happen to be the top 2 players on his HS team (son is #3).

BTW, I was hitting with my son over the weekend. I noticed he was spraying the ball and just had a difficult time hitting a consistent shot. By the middle of practice, he complained of shoulder pain. He sat for 10min while I just worked on serves. Then he grabbed his other racquet (with fresh strings) and he was hitting very consistently. It was like 2 different players. By the end of practice session, he said his shoulder was feeling better.

Now last weekend, I had RT'd his racquet and told him that tensions are close to being dead and needing a re-stringing. For those that don't believe in the effects of dead poly, I can only provide observations that lead to this conclusion. And this is from a junior player that can beat 4.5 adults.

How many hours of hitting was he getting out of HyperG18? I'm on my first set of HyperG16L but I'm probably going to ditch it for 18g. 16L is feels really stiff to me.

Also, how much tension loss was there between freshly strung and near dead?

Thanks!
 

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How many hours of hitting was he getting out of HyperG18? I'm on my first set of HyperG16L but I'm probably going to ditch it for 18g. 16L is feels really stiff to me.

Also, how much tension loss was there between freshly strung and near dead?

Thanks!
HG18 probably lasts 12-15hrs in a Pure Strike 98.
I think RT off the stringer is 51#.
It's about 43# when it's dead.
Strung 49/48 on a DW. No higher tension on tie-off pull.

We selected HG18 for its soft feel. I was thinking of going to HG17 for added control. But I keep staying with the 18 for the (apparent) comfort. I'll deal with frequent stringings from dead strings over PT bills.
 

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HG18 probably lasts 12-15hrs in a Pure Strike 98.
I think RT off the stringer is 51#.
It's about 43# when it's dead.
Strung 49/48 on a DW. No higher tension on tie-off pull.

We selected HG18 for its soft feel. I was thinking of going to HG17 for added control. But I keep staying with the 18 for the (apparent) comfort. I'll deal with frequent stringings from dead strings over PT bills.

Cool! From what I have been reading, 16L maintains tension longer, but is far stiffer. 18g seems to be in the same ballpark as Cream for stiffness (according to TWU). 12-15 hours isn't bad for that level, means it'll last a little longer for me.
 
FWIW, I did string up Hyper-G 17 @ 50 lbs in my K-90. Found it quite comfortable after the strings settled down, with loads of power and spin. Almost a little too powerful for me though. I played with it for about 7-8 hours and tension was still ok (based on feel, not RT measurements).

I'm now trying Volkl Cyclone 17 strung in my other racquet (Yonex Vcore Tour G) and find it somewhat better for my swing and style of play (little more comfortable on the arm, less power, spin about the same).
 
Excellent reference tension for that sting. Don't go over 52 with HyperG. After 52 you've taken all of the elasticity from the string prior to even hitting it. I string it between 40 and 46 depending on time of year and frame. Currently playing with Tourbite 20 mains and 17 crosses in a PS97S at 40.

Why the 20 in the main and the thicker 17 as crosses?
 

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I'm a 4.0 player, play with the K90. I have been trying out various strings to come up with something that works ok for my playing style, and here is what I've tried:

1. Yonex Poly Tour Pro 16L @52: Very plush and easy on the arm, but lost tension in about 4 hours.
2. Head Velocity 16 @ 58, Head Velocity 17 @ 60: Very easy on the arm, but both combos were too powerful for me.
3. Babolat Synthetic gut @ 60: Not as plush as the ones above and still a little too powerful. Not durable though, broke in 3 hours.
4. Head PPS @ 60: Broke in 3 hours.
5. Wilson synthetic gut, Wilson Sensation: All too powerful for me.

I'm about to try Solinco Hyper G, 17 gauge. Any suggestions on a tension that would still be somewhat comfortable on the arm?

Hyper G 17 is a good string, and the one I currently use. Had it at 52 lately, but find it too stiff, even in a soft frame like the DR98. Will probably go down to 50 next time around, if not 48 in case 50 still feels a tad firm.
 

ace18

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Strung up Hyper G 17G for the first time this past weekend and its fantastic. I did mine at 48lbs taking into account a little cooler weather.
 

SavvyStringer

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Why the 20 in the main and the thicker 17 as crosses?
20g main to open the 18 main string bed. Durability isn't an issue, I restring every t
I may have asked you this question before. But how does HyperG compare with Tourbite?
My son uses HyperG 18@49 in a Pure Strike 98. A couple of his teammates are using Tourbite 17@50 in the same racquet. These 2 happen to be the top 2 players on his HS team (son is #3).

BTW, I was hitting with my son over the weekend. I noticed he was spraying the ball and just had a difficult time hitting a consistent shot. By the middle of practice, he complained of shoulder pain. He sat for 10min while I just worked on serves. Then he grabbed his other racquet (with fresh strings) and he was hitting very consistently. It was like 2 different players. By the end of practice session, he said his shoulder was feeling better.

Now last weekend, I had RT'd his racquet and told him that tensions are close to being dead and needing a re-stringing. For those that don't believe in the effects of dead poly, I can only provide observations that lead to this conclusion. And this is from a junior player that can beat 4.5 adults.


HyperG is marginally softer. Not Tourbite Soft but softer than traditional Tourbite. I personally prefer Tourbite as HyperG gives me wrist pain but both are good strings. For some reason HyperG just doesn't agree with me. It's fun to play but I can't take more than about a set. Additionally for anyone that doesn't believe in dead poly affecting play, you're not swinging hard enough or consistently enough to get the playing characteristics of poly anyway. If you have the racket head speed and stroke path to displace poly you can tell when they're dead.
 

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Hyper G 17 is a good string, and the one I currently use. Had it at 52 lately, but find it too stiff, even in a soft frame like the DR98. Will probably go down to 50 next time around, if not 48 in case 50 still feels a tad firm.
My son seems to like HG18 @ 49/48. Sounds like you could take 17g down to 48 and be fine. The DR98 is very similar to the PS98 with a little more weight I believe.
 

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How low can you go with Hyper G 16L in the Babolat Pure Drive (2015)?

That's entirely up to you. Prior to switching to a PS97S I was playing a Head Extreme (basically a pure drive) with 20g Tourbite mains at 42lbs. Tension is just a number you pull on the machine. I'm playing gut mains with Tourbite 20g crosses at 44/42 and have no problems with control. If you're used to playing at like 60lbs you'll need to back down slow but you can go down as far as you want.
 
Last time I played the APD 13 GT with Kirschbaum Pro Line II @ 21/20 kg and I like the feeling of the strings.
With my PureDrive I had string the HyperG 18 @ 24 kg... and ik feels to hard for me.

Is the power @16 kg lower then for exampel @20kg??
 

SavvyStringer

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Last time I played the APD 13 GT with Kirschbaum Pro Line II @ 21/20 kg and I like the feeling of the strings.
With my PureDrive I had string the HyperG 18 @ 24 kg... and ik feels to hard for me.

Is the power @16 kg lower then for exampel @20kg??


In theory no. In my experience, power seems to be lower once you get to a certain low tension. Similar in average tension ranges. I find stiff string beds deflect the ball so quickly that they seem to have less control rather than more.
 

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I'm a 4.0 player, play with the K90. I have been trying out various strings to come up with something that works ok for my playing style, and here is what I've tried:

1. Yonex Poly Tour Pro 16L @52: Very plush and easy on the arm, but lost tension in about 4 hours.
2. Head Velocity 16 @ 58, Head Velocity 17 @ 60: Very easy on the arm, but both combos were too powerful for me.
3. Babolat Synthetic gut @ 60: Not as plush as the ones above and still a little too powerful. Not durable though, broke in 3 hours.
4. Head PPS @ 60: Broke in 3 hours.
5. Wilson synthetic gut, Wilson Sensation: All too powerful for me.

I'm about to try Solinco Hyper G, 17 gauge. Any suggestions on a tension that would still be somewhat comfortable on the arm?

hi 40 player K90

i use solinco hyper G 17 in my PS97s 2015 (kevlar) and PS97s 2017 (red and black) i hit pretty flat, as i have been playing for many years, learned to play with a dunlop maxply fort (wood). i am trying to get more modern by hitting more spin shots,
open stance, very difficult for me to make this transition.
in the winter i string my racquets at 48#, summer 52#
how much tension the hyperG loses is dependant on your playing style
i have a alpha sports lockout machine

hope that this helps

z
 

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In theory no. In my experience, power seems to be lower once you get to a certain low tension. Similar in average tension ranges. I find stiff string beds deflect the ball so quickly that they seem to have less control rather than more.

Try the Solinco Hyper G 20 gauge. I’ve been playing with it now for three months and it doesn’t seem to break and the pocketing and feel from the string bed is much better.


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If you want a little less power than the Hyper G, try the Weiss Cannon Ultracable. Has excellent spin and slightly less power than the Hyper G. The WC Red Ghost is more comfortable than both, with almost as much spin and just a touch more pop.
 
What do you think of a hybrid with HyperG 16L with Velocity16?

The Hyper18 @ 24kg is littte to hard for me and I want more pocketing.
What are the suggestions of tension....
 
Excellent reference tension for that sting. Don't go over 52 with HyperG. After 52 you've taken all of the elasticity from the string prior to even hitting it. I string it between 40 and 46 depending on time of year and frame. Currently playing with Tourbite 20 mains and 17 crosses in a PS97S at 40.
I will have to agree with that. I used to do Hyper G 16g 53 lbs mains, and Dunlop S-Gut 16g 55 lbs crosses and once I upped it to 55/57, I have a harder time generating power and it doesn't perform as well unless the weather is warmer. I'm going to test out some lower tensions the next time I string it up, most likely 43/45 in one racket and 47/49 in another to see how it feels.
 
If you want a little less power than the Hyper G, try the Weiss Cannon Ultracable. Has excellent spin and slightly less power than the Hyper G. The WC Red Ghost is more comfortable than both, with almost as much spin and just a touch more pop.
I liked the Ultracable at first but I felt it lost a lot of playability as time went on. It is definitely a very low powered poly. The Red Ghost does play really nicely and I agree that it has a bit more spin and pop.
 

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Try the Solinco Hyper G 20 gauge. I’ve been playing with it now for three months and it doesn’t seem to break and the pocketing and feel from the string bed is much better.


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Have you tried different gauges of HyperG? How's durability / tension loss been?
 
I liked the Ultracable at first but I felt it lost a lot of playability as time went on. It is definitely a very low powered poly. The Red Ghost does play really nicely and I agree that it has a bit more spin and pop.


Agreed on the playability. For me, Ultracable lost tension far too quickly as well- that's a good point. I find the Red Ghost to be the best of the 3, but would probably explore a different option if less power is a requirement.
 

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Try the Solinco Hyper G 20 gauge. I’ve been playing with it now for three months and it doesn’t seem to break and the pocketing and feel from the string bed is much better.

I unfortunately snapped it within 2 hrs on a RF97 @ 46/42 lbs. Overall, Hyper G 20g is nice but I prefer the feel of Cyclone 19g. Tried the 1.15 18g, but had more Playsight verifiable spin from the Cyclone 19g.
 
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The Big Kahuna

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Have you tried different gauges of HyperG? How's durability / tension loss been?

The durability has been very good for me. The thinner you go however with the Hyper G the more tension loss you get. I just compensate a couple pounds increasing tension for every gauge point that I move down. If I string Hyper G at 40 pounds in the 18 gauge I might go 42 pounds in the 19 gauge and 44 pounds in the 20 gauge to compensate.

After a couple hours the tention will have dropped about 5 to 10% and then it settles in nicely.


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The durability has been very good for me. The thinner you go however with the Hyper G the more tension loss you get. I just compensate a couple pounds increasing tension for every gauge point that I move down. If I string Hyper G at 40 pounds in the 18 gauge I might go 42 pounds in the 19 gauge and 44 pounds in the 20 gauge to compensate.

After a couple hours the tention will have dropped about 5 to 10% and then it settles in nicely.
I agree that the thinner the gauge, the higher the reference tension if you want similar power and feel. However, I wonder about the tension loss. HyperG 18 in a PS98 strung at 49# on DW RTs at about 51# off the stringer. It seems to drop 2# the first hour and then about 0.5# each subsequent hour. By the time it's at 43#, it's dead. It'd be interesting to test out if 17g will experience the same.
 

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I agree that the thinner the gauge, the higher the reference tension if you want similar power and feel. However, I wonder about the tension loss. HyperG 18 in a PS98 strung at 49# on DW RTs at about 51# off the stringer. It seems to drop 2# the first hour and then about 0.5# each subsequent hour. By the time it's at 43#, it's dead. It'd be interesting to test out if 17g will experience the same.

I am usually aiming to get 15 to 20 hours out of a set of polyester string. I will cut out my string once a month regardless.


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bxr

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I've been using gauge 17 @ 48 lbs for a while now, usually good for 10 hours, I rarely break the strings. But when I go higher @ 52 lbs recently, I'm breaking strings (main) every week (5-6 hours of court time). I'd prefer it to last a bit longer but keep everything else the same.
For those who have tried both gauge 16 and 17, do they play different? I'm thinking to hybrid different gauges (16/18, or 16/17) to compensate stiffer feel of a thicker main.
 
I strung Hyper-G at 44lbs mains and 40lbs crosses and found 17G to be the best compromise between a bit harsh on the arm with 16L and too much power with 18G. I get about 12 to 15 hours before the string breaks so happy with the string overall.
 
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