Solinco prototype

#1
I there already any official news regarding the Solinco prototype string that was introduced back in 2017?


“Having already produced the popular Tour Bite and Hyper-G lines, Solinco adds to its stable of strings with this upcoming impressive co-polyester. Another future release—this one won’t hit shelves until the second half of 2018—the charcoal-colored, softer for a co-poly string, has an edged/textured design, allowing for greater playability, spin generation, and power. The performance still promotes a high degree of control and is best-suited for heavy hitters and experience poly players. The company likes to include all range of players—juniors, recreational, professional—in the development and testing of new prototypes, and this particular model drew immediate praise. In fact, Sloane Stephens had it in her frame when she won the US Open.”

http://www.tennis.com/gear/2017/10/just-new-arrivals-pro-shop/70234/
 
#3
Just commenting so that I remember. I'll text and ask them. Last I spoke to them, they were trying not to steal thunder from HyperG because it's so noticeable even without a stencil. To my knowledge they still haven't named it. All of my reels for my guys say Confidential 2.0.
 
#4
Just commenting so that I remember. I'll text and ask them. Last I spoke to them, they were trying not to steal thunder from HyperG because it's so noticeable even without a stencil. To my knowledge they still haven't named it. All of my reels for my guys say Confidential 2.0.
is there any way somewhere I can get a sample of 17 G ? Also I don't know why they think they are stealing anything from Hyper G, Hyper G isn't as popular as people think. Tourbite and hyper G are about same in popularity. Plus Confidential would be really upgrading Tourbite , not hyper G
 
#17
Tour Bite is the best of the three in terms of playability duration but it's still not very good and doesn't play well for 4-6 hours for me.
My tourbite will last good 4-5 hours then it goes dead and I have cut it out and re-string but I use 17 G. My stringer always wonder why I am cutting out tourbite that is not broken yet............LOL.

Anyway, I was told this new charcoal confidential string is BEST of the 3 strings from most people. and many of the college players that I know in west coast SF area have really liked this one compared to tourbite or hyper G. so they have switched to this one. These guys were Hyper G last year and they have made the switch to this new confidential string. so that tells me something.
 
#20
Weird, I always thought TB played well until it broke. I wouldn't consider cutting out Hyper G for at least 8 hours of play. For me, it plays well enough to keep it.
maybe you don't hit the ball as hard as he does. harder hitters find poly goes dead more quickly if not break first
 
#21
maybe you don't hit the ball as hard as he does. harder hitters find poly goes dead more quickly if not break first
Of course anything is possible. I don't know what level they are, or how hard they hit. But I string for a few guys that play D1, hit far harder than you or I do, and play with full beds of Hyper G and Tour Bite for 5-7 hours or more without it breaking. They also don't seem to mention a loss of control, either.
 
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#22
I have it in 16, 16L, and 17. I tried it with all of my guys (everyone plays HyperG) and only one guy chose it over HyperG. It's a nice string, easy to play. I still prefer tourbite because of the firm feel myself.
 
#23
So after giving some thoughts in the other solinco thread, I played with charcoal and hyper-g again this weekend and stand by my initial impressions. Charcoal def is a little softer feeling/muted pockety feeling than hyper-g and maybe slightly less spin. As a result, I feel like it also loses tension and playability slightly quicker than hyper-g. Felt like I wanted to cut it out after 2 hard sessions ~4 hours. When fresh, it does feel nice and I can't decide if I like the slightly crisper/firmer hyper-g feel (even though hyper-g itself is a softer solinco string) or a more comfortable charcoal. What I wish was improved upon is the playability duration and tension maintenance. @SavvyStringer did you have a similar experience with regards to tension maintenance/playability duration?

And I haven't played tour bite in a while since I had switched to hyper-g. How do they compare in tension maintenance and playability duration? I am very sensitive to that and am looking for a string similar to hyper-g with similar characteristics (don't mind going to firmer feel) with similar or better duration. Personally can't jive with the bright green as a permanent setup going forward.
 
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#24
I felt like charcoal was softer than hyperG but not mushy like tourbite soft. IMO it holds tension well but I also restring every 4 sets or 10 days, which ever comes first. Consensus on tourbite is that it doesn't have the same tension maintenance of HyperG but I still prefer it.
 
#25
I have it in 16, 16L, and 17. I tried it with all of my guys (everyone plays HyperG) and only one guy chose it over HyperG. It's a nice string, easy to play. I still prefer tourbite because of the firm feel myself.
I was told this charcoal is designed to give more spin, feel and power than Hyper G. Hyper G felt too much like paper plastic with no feel but great spin and decent power. If new string can give more feel, it should be a perfect string. Also I am sure they will make it in 18 G as well, which should enhance all properties. Where can I find a 17 g in the internet ?
 
#26
I strung it up and went to play today. I did not like it. I had no control, less spin, and everything was long. I am not a good player, but today I was a horrible player. Serves were all over the place, no feel on volleys. Had to change my grip on forehands and backhands to keep them in. I couldn't swing out without putting the out. I will be cutting it out today.
 
#27
Are they going to release this Solinco confidential that Sloan is using ?? you spend of ton of money developing the string and not release it ???????????? that is just not smart business
 
#28
Of course anything is possible. I don't know what level they are, or how hard they hit. But I string for a few guys that play D1, hit far harder than you or I do, and play with full beds of Hyper G and Tour Bite for 5-7 hours or more without it breaking. They also don't seem to mention a loss of control, either.
i kmow a guy who plays future tournaments and he plays a whole week indoors wih Babolat Blast 1.30. Ofcourse it loses tension and profile, but it keeps playable till the end.
Its ridiculous amatours think they should emulate Fed by cutting out their strings after a few games. Do you guys have too much money?
 
#29
i kmow a guy who plays future tournaments and he plays a whole week indoors wih Babolat Blast 1.30. Ofcourse it loses tension and profile, but it keeps playable till the end.
Its ridiculous amatours think they should emulate Fed by cutting out their strings after a few games. Do you guys have too much money?
Some polys go Dead after ~8 hours of hard play time. of course some polys stay fresh longer like 10-14 hours of play time like RPM blast for instance. In my experience, cheaper polys go dead faster for some reason 6-8 hours of playtime. Once the poly does go Dead, you have to cut it out because if you keep playing with it in, you are risking arm or shoulder injury.
 
#30
I strung it up and went to play today. I did not like it. I had no control, less spin, and everything was long. I am not a good player, but today I was a horrible player. Serves were all over the place, no feel on volleys. Had to change my grip on forehands and backhands to keep them in. I couldn't swing out without putting the out. I will be cutting it out today.
Send me a set of 17 G if you have one, I will make it worth while
 

am1899

Hall of Fame
#36
then why is so many more Pros in ATP tour use RPM blast and Not RPM blast rough ?
Probably because Blast is stiffer than Rough. And the fall of the cliff nature of Blast isn’t as much a problem for pros - if they’re on the World Tour, they can afford to restring very frequently. For some of them the string is probably free.
 
#37
Probably because Blast is stiffer than Rough. And the fall of the cliff nature of Blast isn’t as much a problem for pros - if they’re on the World Tour, they can afford to restring very frequently. For some of them the string is probably free.
Only during the Australian Open. They pay at all other tourneys aside from that one. And even there, they pay after their first 5 rackets of each round so nishikori pays each round as would zverev. Even the guys with P1 are technically paying because they have them on retainer. Nothing is free. Additionally, I've never seen anyone argue that RPM maintains playability for an extended period of time. It's basically universally agreed on that RPM plays great for an hour or two and then it's toast. But, different strokes for different folks I guess. No poly will last for extended periods of time, even sitting freshly strung. It's part of the game.
 
#38
Only during the Australian Open. They pay at all other tourneys aside from that one. And even there, they pay after their first 5 rackets of each round so nishikori pays each round as would zverev. Even the guys with P1 are technically paying because they have them on retainer. Nothing is free. Additionally, I've never seen anyone argue that RPM maintains playability for an extended period of time. It's basically universally agreed on that RPM plays great for an hour or two and then it's toast. But, different strokes for different folks I guess. No poly will last for extended periods of time, even sitting freshly strung. It's part of the game.
1 hour or 2 for RPM blast,, WOW. That is fastest dying poly I have ever seen. Does RPM blast rough last longer ? I know solico tourbite goes dead pretty quick especially in hot weather but still lasts around 4-6 hours, and I thought that was dead poly real quick,,, but 1-2 hours for RPM ?? lol . is that in very hot weather, does it last in cooler weather ?
 
#39
1 hour or 2 for RPM blast,, WOW. That is fastest dying poly I have ever seen. Does RPM blast rough last longer ? I know solico tourbite goes dead pretty quick especially in hot weather but still lasts around 4-6 hours, and I thought that was dead poly real quick,,, but 1-2 hours for RPM ?? lol . is that in very hot weather, does it last in cooler weather ?
The coating wears down and notches fairly easily if you're a high level college player. I had a guy playing it a few years back 16g in the black pure drive, I had to string at least one if not two rackets a day because he was popping them. It is so dead to begin with that most amateurs don't notice. When you're pounding the ball at 5.0+ it doesn't last.
 

am1899

Hall of Fame
#40
Only during the Australian Open. They pay at all other tourneys aside from that one. And even there, they pay after their first 5 rackets of each round so nishikori pays each round as would zverev. Even the guys with P1 are technically paying because they have them on retainer. Nothing is free. Additionally, I've never seen anyone argue that RPM maintains playability for an extended period of time. It's basically universally agreed on that RPM plays great for an hour or two and then it's toast. But, different strokes for different folks I guess. No poly will last for extended periods of time, even sitting freshly strung. It's part of the game.
Just point of clarification - I was referring to the string itself being free (for some of the very top Babolat brand ambassadors), not the stringing service.
 
#41
The coating wears down and notches fairly easily if you're a high level college player. I had a guy playing it a few years back 16g in the black pure drive, I had to string at least one if not two rackets a day because he was popping them. It is so dead to begin with that most amateurs don't notice. When you're pounding the ball at 5.0+ it doesn't last.
I Hybrid it with Xcel or X-1 biphase. so coating wearing off isn't usually a problem. Problem has been poly just losing the playablility by going stiff and dead at 4-8 hours mark depending on poly. Even the stiff dead feeling polys have decent pop and energy return when freshly strung up but as time passes with hitting, it loses that energy return and goes even stiffer, that is when I have to cut it out. I am not sure at what point RPM blast start to lose that energy return ??
 

Rabe87

Professional
#44
Solinco peaked with their original line-up of strings (TB, Outlast), they've been trying to go more mainstream with softer alternatives ever since and that's not really what made them famous in the first place. This will likely just be another middle of the rung poly like TB Diamond Rough.
 
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