Solinco Whiteout V2 (2025) discussion

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New thread for 2025 Solinco Whiteout V2 discussion - Wanted to SEPARATE it out from the the general Whiteout thread

Release Date : January 10 2025 (16x19 only)

Promises
-> Plusher Feel
-> More Control on 16x19 (@dr. godmode says 18x20 no longer needed - gives me Ezone98 vibes as result)
-> Increase Power, Stability (dont they all say that? :-D )

I always thought the White was more like Solincos Blade competitor - and never gave it a chance, also don't like first editions of anything - but maybe it can attack Ezones now?

I'm an 22 Ezone 98 (24 AQ paint) user myself - was planning to only test the 2025 Gravity Tour 98 - but this is a nice surprise entry to the must test list.


 
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I felt the V1 Whiteout 16x19 was very similar to the VCORE 98 (which I used prior to switching to the Blackout XTD), but the 18x20 was closer to the old Pure Controls.

It’s a shame these frames weren’t available 4-5 years ago. But my aging shoulder has relegated me to the “tweener” line of frames. Waiting patiently for the V2 Blackout…
 
Not much interest in Solinco frames seems like, no one I know is trying one or is using one. I'll demo or actually probably buy one as soon as they are released if I can find them around 290SW so I have some room to play around with weight

Topspin7 said:
Not sure about the cosmetic. It’s like the V1 got really moldy. Hopefully looks better in person.
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My Interest perked because of the paintjob and dr. godmodes limited comments. Once the color is in the name they are kinda limited I suppose.
 
thenewbig3 said:
Not much interest in Solinco frames seems like, no one I know is trying one or is using one. I'll demo or actually probably buy one as soon as they are released if I can find them around 290SW so I have some room to play around with weight



My Interest perked because of the paintjob and dr. godmodes limited comments. Once the color is in the name they are kinda limited I suppose.
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I'm quite interested myself and I think the snow camo pj is pretty darn sharp. I will admit I do like the red and gold accents on the hoop in the video above of Mark Sansit's stenciling fiasco. If it was cleaned up it would give K 6.1 95 vibes.
 
The WO V2, when I demoed the blank version, was leagues better than the V1 if you are looking for a more refined feel and stability, not sure how the fibers actually made this change happen but it was pretty drastic and for the better as I hated the V1s raw feel (minus the 18x20 version). The only thing keeping me away from smooth controllable 98s in general is that I do have to work harder with my legs but yeah I think this version finally got the stability and control people can find with 18x20s but in a more spin friendly package. All things considered though, I saw the paint job in person recently and it looks much better in person so I now have high hopes for the black version.
 
DropWideShot said:
The WO V2, when I demoed the blank version, was leagues better than the V1 if you are looking for a more refined feel and stability, not sure how the fibers actually made this change happen but it was pretty drastic and for the better as I hated the V1s raw feel (minus the 18x20 version). The only thing keeping me away from smooth controllable 98s in general is that I do have to work harder with my legs but yeah I think this version finally got the stability and control people can find with 18x20s but in a more spin friendly package. All things considered though, I saw the paint job in person recently and it looks much better in person so I now have high hopes for the black version.
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is the V2 foam-filled? Solinco have said in email they will continue selling the V1 Blackouts and Whiteouts. I interpret is as a big stractural change going on with the V2s
bigdaddy said:
I’m 72 years old and I think the 290 may be better for me.
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A VERY good friend of mine who has played absolutely everything including pro stocks, told me the Whiteout V1 290 was the best under 300 gram racket he had ever used, until he tried and kept my Pro Kennex Ki5 295.
 
Does the V2 have the same grommets in terms of inner diameter? They seem huge on V1 (I have the 18x20), like some "spin grommets" from other companies.
 
I've been enjoying the V2 for the past month. I have a non-cosmetic/all white layup. Playing with Tour Bite Round 17, this racquet just does whatever I want. I haven't come across many racquets that give me that freedom. Love the feel of this one over the V1. More plush but not muted. This will probably be my main frame for a while. Definitely interested in trying out the 27.5" length as well.
 
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dr. godmode said:
hahahahahaha it'll be done in the next few days unless i get a heart attack from the stress you just piled on me
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Or shoulder injury from too many unnecessary helicopter finishes.

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Per Beckett and Simon, Solinco has fallen into line with most makers, and pursued comfort and stability (with Arch 2) at the apparent expense of feedback and feel. Unless they're planning on offering the v1's along side the v2's, I would say that's a shame, as the WO and BO were in a minority of actually raw/direct feeling frames.

@FuzzyYellowBalls – another example of what I was referencing in that other thread. These differences do exist. That said, no, they probably won't make or break anyone's performance, at least not at the rec level. But can it sour the hitting experience for some? Sure it can. And again, that isn't coming from just me. But obviously, the gear lust of a few pales in comparison to the masses, so I'm not surprised to see these models go this way, nor would I argue against any forthcoming points that it's no big deal, etc. But I do applaud Beckett for at least commenting on it. Because it is "a thing", even if that thing is small potatoes at this point.
 
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Trip said:
Per Beckett and Simon, Solinco has fallen into line with most makers, and pursued comfort and stability (with Arch 2) at the apparent expense of feedback and feel. Unless they're planning on offering the v1's along side the v2's, I would say that's a shame, as the WO and BO were in a minority of actually raw/direct feeling frames.
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Email from Solinco said they will continue to offer the V1 Blackouts and Whiteouts for this exact reason. The V2 rackets are supposed to feel way different that the V1s.
 
konstantinos kalfountzos said:
Email from Solinco said they will continue to offer the V1 Blackouts and Whiteouts for this exact reason. The V2 rackets are supposed to feel way different that the V1s.
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can confirm, they said WO users should still feel familiar with the racquet but new user who prefers one feel over the other have an option to choose and existing users are not forced into a new model if they like the original version
 
DropWideShot said:
can confirm, they said WO users should still feel familiar with the racquet but new user who prefers one feel over the other have an option to choose and existing users are not forced into a new model if they like the original version
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Thanks for posting the feedback from Solinco, nice to know that they are listening and responding to customer concerns in the US. I'm in Australia and as soon as I read about the V2 here I emailed the Australian distributor wanting to know if the V1 was being discontinued, nothing but crickets. At least I know now I will be able to order further V1's in the future.
 
konstantinos kalfountzos said:
Email from Solinco said they will continue to offer the V1 Blackouts and Whiteouts for this exact reason. The V2 rackets are supposed to feel way different that the V1s.
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DropWideShot said:
can confirm, they said WO users should still feel familiar with the racquet but new user who prefers one feel over the other have an option to choose and existing users are not forced into a new model if they like the original version
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Wow. That would be amazing for consumers. Not sure how much sense it makes purely from a business perspective, but they've already got the product out there, so if it's fairly minimal overhead to keep it rolling, then by all means. A win-win, potentially.
 
Trip said:
Wow. That would be amazing for consumers. Not sure how much sense it makes purely from a business perspective, but they've already got the product out there, so if it's fairly minimal overhead to keep it rolling, then by all means. A win-win, potentially.
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they could potentially have a lot of inventory left over and that's the way they're spinning it
 
snoflewis said:
they could potentially have a lot of inventory left over and that's the way they're spinning it
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Outside of the holiday deals, I've never really seen them discount things too often compared to the other brands when they need to address left over inventory. I was expecting a clearance sale with V2 coming out but with how their string model works this makes sense for them, so its almost like WhiteOut vs WhiteOut Soft lol I also dont think they made humongous amounts to begin with (which is also why I think they were getting tight specs compared to everyone else). I got 4 BO XTDs I purchased on 3 separate occasions that were all virtually the same.
 
snoflewis said:
they could potentially have a lot of inventory left over and that's the way they're spinning it
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That could very well be the case.

DropWideShot said:
almost like WhiteOut vs WhiteOut Soft
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I was thinking something along these lines myself! Though I'm not sure if their intent is to go that wide in product line with frames, so sticking with version numbers probably makes more sense for now. But "WhiteOut" and "WhiteOut Soft", "BlackOut" and "BlackOut Soft", or whatever the most appropriate adjective would be, might not be such a bad idea. No one else is really doing it, so maybe they could set a new precedent if it actually were to prove valuable/profitable?
 
@dtruong25

Mine came in at 295 Unstrung and 324 Strung with Solinco Hyper G 17. I will put 10JX on after I try my preferred string setup.

For context, I am currently using the Wilson Blade v9 16x19 and most are within the 324ish spec range. I'm really looking forward to comparing the 2 side by side. Never tried the Whiteout V1 but I did playtest the Blackout v1 and thought it was pretty close to the Babolat Pure Drive.
 
konstantinos kalfountzos said:
Email from Solinco said they will continue to offer the V1 Blackouts and Whiteouts for this exact reason. The V2 rackets are supposed to feel way different that the V1s.
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Huge props to Solinco for keeping the old models and acknowledging that racket updates arent clear improvements in every aspect, just adjustments for different audience. Very honest approach, which is rare these days.
 
Trip said:
Per Beckett and Simon, Solinco has fallen into line with most makers, and pursued comfort and stability (with Arch 2) at the apparent expense of feedback and feel.
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Current Blackout XTD user here, and while I love my frames (2 1/2 years now), I’m in the minority as far as muted feel: I love it.

When Yonex added VDM between my 2019 & 2021 VCORE 98 +s, I was one of the few who loved it, while others complained. Maybe it’s my 20+ years playing with Kevlar, but that deadened feeling is right up my alley.
 
McLovin said:
Current Blackout XTD user here, and while I love my frames (2 1/2 years now), I’m in the minority as far as muted feel: I love it.

When Yonex added VDM between my 2019 & 2021 VCORE 98 +s, I was one of the few who loved it, while others complained. Maybe it’s my 20+ years playing with Kevlar, but that deadened feeling is right up my alley.
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Then presuming Solinco update the BlackOut v2's with Arch 2 as well, I would expect you to like the BO v2 more than the v1. Will be interested in your thoughts!
 
Trip said:
Then presuming Solinco update the BlackOut v2's with Arch 2 as well, I would expect you to like the BO v2 more than the v1. Will be interested in your thoughts!
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Yeah, that’s my issue: I was so set on NOT updating, but then I heard the reviews and thought “oh crap…now I need to try it…”
 
McLovin said:
Yeah, that’s my issue: I was so set on NOT updating, but then I heard the reviews and thought “oh crap…now I need to try it…”
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Yep. I think you probably owe it to yourself to try it. Plus, if it's themed similarly to the WO, then the PJ will likely be black/gray camo, which may very well be the coolest looking thing ever. Not that the PJ should dictate anything, but you never know!
 
bigdaddy said:
The v2 290 whiteout does not have the foam technology.
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I did try the V1 305 side by side with a foamless prototype. I remember not noticing a huge difference between the two. If anything the foam made it a little more comfortable, so maybe with arch2 it feels ok without the foam. Would be interesting to test!
 
Foam is said to only modulate the sound, racquets have a nice impact sound with it, instead of sounding hollow. Not sure if a tiny - by mass - amount of foam, can attenuate a lot of high energy ringing. There would have to be a lot more foam by mass. It would be similar to say a mattress dampening a car impact to a wall, too little mattress, and way too much car

A 4g Yonex dampener is really nice, in dampening ringing from 17g of strings. But already with a 2g dampener that attenuation is noticeably less. And that's with a rubbery dense material for the dampener, foam is less dense, less rubbery, it's, well - foam

Maybe its attenuation properties help more if the racquet is already well dampened, with very little ringing and resonance post impact, so then foam takes care of the remaining bit of ringing at only a certain narrower frequency or such

I'm not an engineer, these are just guesses
 
Sigh.

I've had two pretty long sessions with the V2 and decided it is not for me.

Definitely more stable, comfortable and powerful but I am not enjoying the dampened feel on the racket at all. I feel pretty disconnected with where the ball is on the frame.
 
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dtruong25 said:
Sigh.

I've had two pretty long sessions with the V2 and decided it is not for me.

Definitely more stable, comfortable and powerful but I am not enjoying the dampened feel on the racket at all. I feel pretty disconnected with where the ball is on the frame.
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Whats your regular frame?
 
RNBABOLAT said:
This is the third "confidential" and still don't see any date for the blue one, tour bite round and now this. Any further info would be appreciated
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Blue aka 10jx aka Bloo aka Mach10 is a new formulation, thread in the string area. Pink is Black confidential with the black pigment removed and the pink added. Feels a bit softer and a little more lively.
 
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