Sonic Pro Edge/MCS on HEAD Graphene Speed Pro?

[sberman51]

Sonic Pro Edge/Mantis Comfort Synthetic on HEAD Graphene Speed Pro?

I have 4 Head Graphene Speed Pro's on the way, and I'm debating between 2 string setups:
1. Full-bed of Head Sonic Pro Edge
2. Hybrid of Sonic Pro Edge/Mantis Comfort Synthetic (MCS)

Some details:
I am an aggressive baseline player who likes to use a lot of spin. The new Graphene Speed Pro's have an 18x20 string pattern and this will be my first switch to a racquet with such a dense string pattern, so keep that in mind.
I am also thinking that if I hybrid the Sonic Pro Edge, I can get twice as many setups out of it. Don't get me wrong I love MCS, but using such a hybrid might change the overall feel of the stringbed. I don't want to sacrifice any spin or control, nor add much power. This is because I am transitioning into an advanced, competitive-level player and need all the control I can get; thus the new racquets with the denser string pattern.
On the other hand, the Mantis Comfort Synthetic in the crosses might make the racquet "come alive."
Previously I have been using a Wilson BLX Pro Open (16x19) strung as a hybrid with Cyclone 17/MCS, but I think it's time for that to change in its entirety.

Any thoughts?

 

[sberman51]

Does anyone have any imput?

 

[sberman51]

Can I get some input?

 

[Centerforward71]

I have 4 Head Graphene Speed Pro's on the way, and I'm debating between 2 string setups:
1. Full-bed of Head Sonic Pro Edge
2. Hybrid of Sonic Pro Edge/Mantis Comfort Synthetic (MCS)

Some details:
I am an aggressive baseline player who likes to use a lot of spin. The new Graphene Speed Pro's have an 18x20 string pattern and this will be my first switch to a racquet with such a dense string pattern, so keep that in mind.
I am also thinking that if I hybrid the Sonic Pro Edge, I can get twice as many setups out of it. Don't get me wrong I love MCS, but using such a hybrid might change the overall feel of the stringbed. I don't want to sacrifice any spin or control, nor add much power. This is because I am transitioning into an advanced, competitive-level player and need all the control I can get; thus the new racquets with the denser string pattern.
On the other hand, the Mantis Comfort Synthetic in the crosses might make the racquet "come alive."
Previously I have been using a Wilson BLX Pro Open (16x19) strung as a hybrid with Cyclone 17/MCS, but I think it's time for that to change in its entirety.

Any thoughts?

So far for me what I've loved as setups. Full bed of stiffer poly 60lbs +/- 2, gut/poly hybrids also 60/58, my favorite so far is multi full bed Multi, ive used tier-one triumph and xone biphase both at 62 both performed amazingly.

The softer polys did not perform as well for me in this pattern as n the 16x19. Also felt that this stick has power and could hit out much more in the 60 pound range. I am going to try a stick at 50 to start, but stick was too powerful when polys began losing too much tension. Starting lower while polis fresher may work well.

Money being no issue gut/poly is amazing setup in this racquet. I can ell you that I previously did not care for gut/poly till I used it with this stick.

The truth is that it was hard to find a string setup that did not play well or great so far on this racquet. I've been through about 20 setups.

 

[Muppet]

I'm working on a theory that racquets with a higher twistweight need a stiffer cross string, and softer twistweight racquets need a softer cross string. As far as I can tell, softer longitudinal flexing racquets can use a variety of main strings.

I had a full bed of Scorpion (@52 dropweight) in my MuscleWeave 95, which has a lower twistweight, and on off-center shots I could feel the frame stress and deform. For my Aerogel 200 (med to high twistweight), I had a hybrid of Pro Red Code / Multifeel @50/53 in it and I couldn't really feel the multi cross.

My point is, I think a soft cross string will be able to move a softer frame the correct amount and a stiffer cross string will be able to move a stiffer frame the correct amount. Once you've found the right string setup, it's even more important to dial in the string's tension.

My MuscleWeave does very well now with Cyber Flash 1.25 / Hexy Fiber 16 @48/53. I'm still trialing strings for my AG200, but it's going slower as it's not one of my top two racquets, so it's not a priority, but my test set of Luxilon M2 Pro played beautifully in it for the two outings that it lasted. So I'm pretty sure I need a full softer poly setup for the AG200.

 

[sberman51]

I'm working on a theory that racquets with a higher twistweight need a stiffer cross string, and softer twistweight racquets need a softer cross string. As far as I can tell, softer longitudinal flexing racquets can use a variety of main strings.

I had a full bed of Scorpion (@52 dropweight) in my MuscleWeave 95, which has a lower twistweight, and on off-center shots I could feel the frame stress and deform. For my Aerogel 200 (med to high twistweight), I had a hybrid of Pro Red Code / Multifeel @50/53 in it and I couldn't really feel the multi cross.

My point is, I think a soft cross string will be able to move a softer frame the correct amount and a stiffer cross string will be able to move a stiffer frame the correct amount. Once you've found the right string setup, it's even more important to dial in the string's tension.

My MuscleWeave does very well now with Cyber Flash 1.25 / Hexy Fiber 16 @48/53. I'm still trialing strings for my AG200, but it's going slower as it's not one of my top two racquets, so it's not a priority, but my test set of Luxilon M2 Pro played beautifully in it for the two outings that it lasted. So I'm pretty sure I need a full softer poly setup for the AG200.

That's really interesting. What do you mean by "twistweight"? So stiffer strings are better for stiffer racquets in the crosses and softer strings are better for softer racquets in the crosses?
Also the poly is textured, so shouldn't I put it in the mains when I hybrid with a multi?

 

[sberman51]

Does anyone have any tension recommendations for a full-bed of Sonic Pro Edge on a HEAD Graphene Speed Pro? I am a baseliner who uses lots of spin and would prefer control over power, although the frame is very control-oriented itself.
Racquet range is 48-57 lbs, string pattern 18x20.

 

[Muppet]

That's really interesting. What do you mean by "twistweight"? So stiffer strings are better for stiffer racquets in the crosses and softer strings are better for softer racquets in the crosses?
Also the poly is textured, so shouldn't I put it in the mains when I hybrid with a multi?

Twistweight is the resistance of the hoop to twisting, depending on inertia and stiffness.

I had an old Dunlop Black Max II strung with Klip Legend 16/Cyber Blue 17 @59/56. It was very comfortable, but I was surprised I was getting so much power at that tension on such a low powered racquet. And I didn't feel like I was able to get much spin from it. The sweet spot felt very large. I think I must have been doing something wrong.

What I can learn from this is that with poly crosses in a noodle of a racquet I didn't get much spin. In my other two low twistweight racquets, I got plenty of spin from poly/multi setups. Gut in the mains of the old floppy stick seemed to fair as well as poly in the other two racquets. That's what leads me to believe that you can be a lot more versatile in what you use in the mains.

So I think it's best to decide on which cross string you want to use first, then try out a few polys for the mains. And full beds of one string usually work fine.

 

[Muppet]

Furthermore, I'm visualizing an off-center ball striking soft string on a firm frame. I think the string will deflect too much and there will be a lack of precision.

If you use a stiff string on the firm frame, you have a better match. The deflection will better match the give of the frame and there will be better control.

If you use a stiff string on a flexible frame, an off-center shot will flex out the frame, giving wider shots.

If you use a flexible frame with a softer string, the deflection of the stringbed can be matched to the flex of the frame and ideally result in increased control and dwell time.

A lot of the search for the right string can easily be accounted for with finding the right tension for a less than perfect string.