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So USTA captains, you've worked hard to make your lineups all season, keep the players happy and keep winning. In January you got the Districts and Sectionals plans. You shared them with your players immediately and pointed out where and when they would be playing. You asked them to save the weekend, and mostly they said they would. But now that the event is coming up, you found out that they scheduled a vacation that weekend because they assumed everyone else could cover for them (but everyone thought that). They've never missed their kid's soccer game all season and they can't bear to break their streak. There's a family picnic and it's the un-missable event of the season. And the rest are hurt. You qualified a whopping 20 players, and 5 are willing to show. Who else has had this happen, and what (if anything) did you do about it, either for the current team or for the next season's edition?
 
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C’est la vie. It’s rec tennis, everyone is old and unfit, and has family commitments that they care about more than winning tennis trophies.

for the current season you play with what you’ve got, for the next season you make a call on how much you care about finals vs other factors when filling slots
 
Maybe there's something that requires more skill in a variety of domains than being a successful league tennis captain, but I hope I never have to do it.
 
C’est la vie. It’s rec tennis, everyone is old and unfit, and has family commitments that they care about more than winning tennis trophies.
So I did this experiment once. I got burned out and took a break from running the team, and my replacement said that he would prioritize being low key and having fun over competing. Many players thought that sounded swell. Until they got massacred every match. They eventually had trouble filling lineups and the captain used a covid surge as an excuse to quit and shut down the team completely. I’m running the team again because enough people still wanted to play. But I was hoping they figured out that it’s easy not to care about winning when you are winning; losing for “fun” isn’t really fun after all. Disappointed that all the effort I put into getting us back into first place is getting tossed by players who can’t commit 1 weekend per year for their team. I mean nobody’s asking them to go on a 6 month deployment here.
 
So I did this experiment once. I got burned out and took a break from running the team, and my replacement said that he would prioritize being low key and having fun over competing. Many players thought that sounded swell. Until they got massacred every match. They eventually had trouble filling lineups and the captain used a covid surge as an excuse to quit and shut down the team completely. I’m running the team again because enough people still wanted to play. But I was hoping they figured out that it’s easy not to care about winning when you are winning; losing for “fun” isn’t really fun after all. Disappointed that all the effort I put into getting us back into first place is getting tossed by players who can’t commit 1 weekend per year for their team. I mean nobody’s asking them to go on a 6 month deployment here.
It’s not all or nothing, just because people like to approach matches competitively and win doesn’t mean that they care about finals to the point of prioritising tennis over other parts of their lives

Sounds like the team has found a happy medium that works for them - if it doesn’t work for you then maybe you’re on the wrong team
 
I've been part of teams where we end up being thin for playoffs, and seen other teams at my club suffer similarly. In one case, the only way to field a full line-up was to have two players that were playing up play in playoffs because there weren't enough at-level players available.
 
So I did this experiment once. I got burned out and took a break from running the team, and my replacement said that he would prioritize being low key and having fun over competing. Many players thought that sounded swell. Until they got massacred every match. They eventually had trouble filling lineups and the captain used a covid surge as an excuse to quit and shut down the team completely. I’m running the team again because enough people still wanted to play. But I was hoping they figured out that it’s easy not to care about winning when you are winning; losing for “fun” isn’t really fun after all. Disappointed that all the effort I put into getting us back into first place is getting tossed by players who can’t commit 1 weekend per year for their team. I mean nobody’s asking them to go on a 6 month deployment here.

About the only thing I could suggest with perfect hindsight is to have reminded them periodically and even present a table which shows everyone and their availability. At least then someone can't claim he thought someone else would cover when a bunch have already said they're not available.

Bottom line: rec tennis is not their priority. Nothing you do will stop them from choosing something else if that's what they want to do.
 
About the only thing I could suggest with perfect hindsight is to have reminded them periodically and even present a table which shows everyone and their availability. At least then someone can't claim he thought someone else would cover when a bunch have already said they're not available.

Bottom line: rec tennis is not their priority. Nothing you do will stop them from choosing something else if that's what they want to do.
Constant reminders and treating them like children (I joke) is what works. But, it is amazing how often players forget dates that are well out in the future even if they want to play. Players check texts more often than they read emails and so, text reminders are better. Also, planning out a group hotel, group dinners, other social activities etc. in advance can motivate more players (and their spouses) to want to make the trip - otherwise many players know that sectionals involve losing more than in the local league and might not be enthusiastic. During COVID times, many people are reluctant to travel/fly in groups and it is particularly hard right now.
 
Some players just want challenging matches every week in the local area but have little interest in taking up a whole weekend with Sectionals or whatever, especially if it involves travel.
I was in that boat myself back when I was still playing league.
I would not want to play on an uncompetitive team because I like to win and also since I would practice and play a lot with teammates, I want them to be good.
But I have no particular interest in postseason, especially if it involves inconvenience.

So... with somebody like myself, if a captain wanted me to play postseason, you'd have to get my commitment up front. If you ask me early enough, tell me I'll be playing, and get me to commit, then I will honor that.
But if you just float the dates, without specifically asking me to play (and commit to playing), then chances are I will be doing something else...

And yes, captaining is really hard.
 
I've been part of teams where we end up being thin for playoffs, and seen other teams at my club suffer similarly. In one case, the only way to field a full line-up was to have two players that were playing up play in playoffs because there weren't enough at-level players available.
Last year, I was missing so many players for districts that myself and two other guys had a long group text the night before the first match to determine which of us were least injured to cover the final court. I was one of the people who had to give it a go, and my elbow was so shredded by the end of the match that I was serving lefthanded. It didn't go well. I just brush it off and don't let stuff like that upset me. It's just rec tennis. If you don't win, you don't win. Life goes on.
 
So USTA captains, you've worked hard to make your lineups all season, keep the players happy and keep winning. In January you got the Districts and Sectionals plans. You shared them with your players immediately and pointed out where and when they would be playing. You asked them to save the weekend, and mostly they said they would. But now that the event is coming up, you found out that they scheduled a vacation that weekend because they assumed everyone else could cover for them (but everyone thought that). They've never missed their kid's soccer game all season and they can't bear to break their streak. There's a family picnic and it's the un-missable event of the season. And the rest are hurt. You qualified a whopping 20 players, and 5 are willing to show. Who else has had this happen, and what (if anything) did you do about it, either for the current team or for the next season's edition?

Yes this does happen albeit not often. and yes Tennis is 2nd in our lives, and most of us play to lose weight and get a cardio workout. and the adnereline rush is a plus but not always necessary. I like winning and competitive match as much as anyone in USTA but the playoff is just a novelty.. That T-shirt or Bagtag is more important to me than acutally playing.

Until USTA establishes Prize money of substance, i don't put any importance on playoff matches.

$10,000 prize money for each player that gets to the Nationals,,,,, then I am There ,,,,,,,,,,,,, Baby (y) (y) :)
 
So USTA captains, you've worked hard to make your lineups all season, keep the players happy and keep winning. In January you got the Districts and Sectionals plans. You shared them with your players immediately and pointed out where and when they would be playing. You asked them to save the weekend, and mostly they said they would. But now that the event is coming up, you found out that they scheduled a vacation that weekend because they assumed everyone else could cover for them (but everyone thought that). They've never missed their kid's soccer game all season and they can't bear to break their streak. There's a family picnic and it's the un-missable event of the season. And the rest are hurt. You qualified a whopping 20 players, and 5 are willing to show. Who else has had this happen, and what (if anything) did you do about it, either for the current team or for the next season's edition?

Which is *exactly* why I stopped caring beyond building rosters of *adults* who:
--can reply to a weekly proposed lineup email with 24-48 hours with a simple 'in' or 'out'
--are not jerks -- do not cause drama on courts or among each other
--show up at least 10 mins early (or let me know they'll be cutting in close).
--are open to play with whomever they get paired with (and understand I also have an idea of who gels well together and not, who prefers singles, etc).

My 3.5 team is always at the top of the flight, contending for state champ, in order to make sectionals. three straight years we either made the state final, or needed one more match to make it. and of course 2/3 of the team wasn't available (it's always late July/august). i learned to make it past all the injuries, vacations, soccer matches, etc, you have to build a ridiculously sized roster, which of course means people will only get 2-3 matches at best during the course of the summer. This is not what the vast majority of people sign up for. They want to play just about every week, with an occasional bye, get their exercise, drink beer after, make new tennis friends, and have fun.

Which, IMO, is also why you generally see the same teams winning the flights regularly. There are the 10% who have this burning desire to go to sectionals/nationals will arrange their entire life around rec tennis, for the privilege of spending upwards of $2-3000 to go fly somewhere and get their asses kicked by an even more stacked team of sandbaggers and try-hards. I have nothing against that at all...more power to 'em...but since I'm not making any money doing this, I decided I don't need to be the guy trying to find lightning in a bottle. And it's made being captain much more manageable, smooth, and less of a time constraint on my life. And guess what - our teams are still always at the top of the flight...or not...and still having a good time.

disclaimer: my wife's 4.0 team went to nationals @ Indian Wells back in 2015. It was a wonderful experience! But what made it so was that a) we had never been to that part of the country before, so we made it a fun vacation, and b) in terms of league tennis, it was a totally organic team-build, and they got lucky with no injuries to key people, and no schedule conflicts...there were a few who couldn't make it, but they caught that lighting that year. A bunch of them got moved to 4.5 and that 4.0 Nationals is a fond memory, and that's about it. None of them have ever gotten close again.
 
Yes this does happen albeit not often. and yes Tennis is 2nd in our lives, and most of us play to lose weight and get a cardio workout. and the adnereline rush is a plus but not always necessary. I like winning and competitive match as much as anyone in USTA but the playoff is just a novelty..

Obviously none of us are pro athletes, so how much competitive effort we want to put into tennis is completely up to us. And I should also point out that I play in New England, where all USTA teams are based at clubs. So if you just want to go out and play a match once or twice a week with some different people for fun, you can sign up for a ladder / rotation / round robin / clinic or whatever floats your boat. Virtually every club offers these things to its members. You don't need to join a USTA team. If you sign up for a team, you should get into the team spirit IMO.
 
So USTA captains, you've worked hard to make your lineups all season, keep the players happy and keep winning. In January you got the Districts and Sectionals plans. You shared them with your players immediately and pointed out where and when they would be playing. You asked them to save the weekend, and mostly they said they would. But now that the event is coming up, you found out that they scheduled a vacation that weekend because they assumed everyone else could cover for them (but everyone thought that). They've never missed their kid's soccer game all season and they can't bear to break their streak. There's a family picnic and it's the un-missable event of the season. And the rest are hurt. You qualified a whopping 20 players, and 5 are willing to show. Who else has had this happen, and what (if anything) did you do about it, either for the current team or for the next season's edition?
Has been on the regular since COVID. People want to travel with their families and are less engaged in going to state or sectionals. The ones that are engaged, get hurt.
 
It's not about where tennis fits into your priorities. You know your schedule. If you're unavailable then you say that you're unavailable. Where I live league is the same day and nearly the same time every week. If you have another commitment during that time you should save your $20 and not play on that team.

Local playoffs do not need to be a special event on the weekend--they should continue to be scheduled on the same weekday with 1 other team.
 
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