Spacing in backhand 2hbh

markch

New User
For the forehand, I raise my left hand for space reference, so I know certainly and immediately it's proper space when running to the ball.


how to space the body for 2hbh ? any good reference object so I know it is an appropriate space. I get jammed ( too close to ball) from time to time when I run to a backhand ball.
 
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sounds silly, but i "point my shoulder line" at the contact point... then the should blade then sort of doubles as a "painters thumb" to help get my spacing right.
 

Nellie

Hall of Fame
I try to straighten my BH arm (left for me) at contact. So I pause slightly at contact to look to see whether my left elbow is bent (contact was too close to my body) before finishing over my FH shoulder.

If I have time, sometimes I double pump the 2HBH to I bring the racquet forward to get spacing/aim and then bring back the racquet and swing for real
 
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I try to straighten my BH arm (left for me) at contact. So I pause slightly at contact to look to see whether my left elbow is bent (contact was too close to my body) before finishing over my FH shoulder.

If I have time, sometimes I double pump the 2HBH to I bring the racquet forward to get spacing/aim and then bring back the racquet and swing for real
you do all that for every swing? i'd like to see a video of that :p
 

SystemicAnomaly

Bionic Poster
For the 2-handed BH, you can use the extend the racket to the side as a spatial reference (rather than your left arm as you are doing for your FH). Do this for your unit turn -- instead of the conventional setting of the racket back or up (as in a loop swing). Offhand, I don't know if you'll find many pros doing this but I did get this idea from watch a player who had an excellent 2-handed BH. Andre Agassi's BH prep comes pretty close to what I'm suggesting. I've used this idea with quite a few students who have had problems with proper spacing on the BH side. Works wonder for most of them.

You initially set up with a 90 degree unit turn -- the racket moves from directly in front of you (ready position) to directly to the side of you (for the initial phase of your unit turn). When you set the racket up in this manner, it will look something like the racket position in the images below:

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You can briefly pause the racket to the side (for your 90 degree unit turn) long enough to establish your spacing. It probably shouldn't take much more than a half second or so. Some students will implement this type of racket prep for a short time before moving on to a more conventional preparation. Others will stick with is for weeks or months before adopting a different prep style. And some will stick with an Agassi-style forever (or at least for years).

fernando-twohanded-backhand.jpg
 
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SystemicAnomaly

Bionic Poster
I try to straighten my BH arm (left for me) at contact. So I pause slightly at contact to look to see whether my left elbow is bent (contact was too close to my body) before finishing over my FH shoulder.

If I have time, sometimes I double pump the 2HBH to I bring the racquet forward to get spacing/aim and then bring back the racquet and swing for real

Interesting. Similar to my "Agassi-style" suggestion. You might give it a try w/o the double-pump action as I suggested in the post above.
 

Limpinhitter

G.O.A.T.
For the forehand, I raise my left hand for space reference, so I know certainly and immediately it's proper space when running to the ball.


how to space the body for 2hbh ? any good reference object so I know it is an appropriate space. I get jammed ( too close to ball) from time to time when I run to a backhand ball.

With the left foot before you step forward with the right foot.
 

badmice2

Professional
Assuming you have a 2 handed backhand, you can practice the same way as a forehand.

start with only using your dominant hand first (left hand if you’re a righty) at double handed position, use your right hand and find the forward spacing position, self drop feed and hit left handed forehand to train the spacing you need. Ideal spacing should be in front of your right foot, but double handed may have it closer to their body as needed giving your range in motion. As long as you keep it in front of your right hip and beyond, you should try and work for a comfortable location where you like to see the ball. Over time integrate your right hand into the muscle memory training.
 

johnmccabe

Hall of Fame
For the 2-handed BH, you can use the extend the racket to the side as a spatial reference (rather than your left arm as you are doing for your FH). Do this for your unit turn -- instead of the conventional setting of the racket back or up (as in a loop swing). Offhand, I don't know if you'll find many pros doing this but I did get this idea from watch a player who had an excellent 2-handed BH. Andre Agassi's BH prep comes pretty close to what I'm suggesting. I've used this idea with quite a few students who have had problems with proper spacing on the BH side. Works wonder for most of them.

You initially set up with a 90 degree unit turn -- the racket moves from directly in front of you (ready position) to directly to the side of you (for the initial phase of your unit turn). When you set the racket up in this manner, it will look something like the racket position in the images below:

a2.jpg
ee517572bd21f9600636b1c723400703.jpg

You can briefly pause the racket to the side (for your 90 degree unit turn) long enough to establish your spacing. It probably shouldn't take much more than a half second or so. Some students will implement this type of racket prep for a short time before moving on to a more conventional preparation. Others will stick with is for weeks or months before adopting a different prep style. And some will stick with an Agassi-style forever (or at least for years).

fernando-twohanded-backhand.jpg
Fognini does exactly what you describe and I just chatted about this with a coach yesterday. I recently tried this method, it does help me.
 

ey039524

Professional
The spacing is different compared to a OHBH. I struggle w this difference, switching from a one to a 2. Out in front more for a one; to the side for a 2. Also, you can hit the 2 later.
 
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