Spencer tribute thread

SystemicAnomaly said:
Well if he IS referring to Pancho G, he’s got his head up a certain backside orifice. Pancho was considered to have the best serve in tennis during his era — circa 1940 thru 1970. And even tho he was 10 years older than Rod Laver, he fared rather well against Laver (who was considered the best player of his era, the 1960s).

This was particularly true in Pancho’s later years— when he was in his late 30s to early 40s.
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@Lleytonstation lacks education about Pancho Gonzales.
 
SystemicAnomaly said:
the ultra processed look of AG.
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Ladies may get jealous when other women are praised in their own venue, so it’s not exactly appropriate to praise anyone other than Spencer in this thread.

If we want to be more radical, it wouldn’t even be bad to diss other women directly. In that regard, I’m afraid what you said about AG being ultra-processed is correct. She feels like she belongs on supermarket shelves and lacks the flair of natural things.

Spencer, on the other hand, is the epitome of authenticity.
 
Sudacafan said:
Ladies may get jealous when other women are praised in their own venue, so it’s not exactly appropriate to praise anyone other than Spencer in this thread.

If we want to be more radical, it wouldn’t even be bad to diss other women directly. In that regard, I’m afraid what you said about AG being ultra-processed is correct. She feels like she belongs on supermarket shelves and lacks the flair of natural things.

Spencer, on the other hand, is the epitome of authenticity.
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Peak AG will always be the one for me, but that's just looks. The Spencer is so much more. She is divine.
 
Lleytonstation said:
No one is denying he was the best club tennis player beating the likes of Agatha, Tabitha, Martha, and Abacus. He just does not belong in the conversations with the modern greats.

And you know it.
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I’m not sure Pancho could beat Old Jim with his massive serve though.
 
Sudacafan said:
I wouldn’t recommend paying too much attention to @Lleytonstation’s propaganda. His main mission here seems to be sowing chaos and confusion across the forum.
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I suspect that @Lleytonstation is still bitter about the fact that a 41-year old Pancho Gonzales was able to prevail over the great Rod Laver (at 31) in a winner-take-all match at MSG in 1970.

Pancho Gonzales, at 41 years old, beat Rod Laver in a $10,000 winner-take-all match before 15,000 spectators in New York City's Madison Square Garden in January of 1970.

Laver does have a wining h2h over Gonzales. However, all these matches (after 1963), occurred when Rod was in his prime and Pancho was in his late 30s. I believe that Pancho was 36 when they first played against each other and was 42 for his last match against Rod.

Despite being well past his prime, Pancho was still able to prevail over Rod (during Rod’s prime) 22 times…

Not bad for “a club player”!
 
Lleytonstation said:
No one is denying he was the best club tennis player beating the likes of Agatha, Tabitha, Martha, and Abacus. He just does not belong in the conversations with the modern greats.

And you know it.
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SystemicAnomaly said:
I suspect that @Lleytonstation is still bitter about the fact that a 41-year old Pancho Gonzales was able to prevail over the great Rod Laver (at 31) in a winner-take-all match at MSG in 1970.

Pancho Gonzales, at 41 years old, beat Rod Laver in a $10,000 winner-take-all match before 15,000 spectators in New York City's Madison Square Garden in January of 1970.

Laver does have a wining h2h over Gonzales. However, all these matches (after 1963), occurred when Rod was in his prime and Pancho was in his late 30s. I believe that Pancho was 36 when they first played against each other and was 42 for his last match against Rod.

Despite being well past his prime, Pancho was still able to prevail over Rod (during Rod’s prime) 22 times…

Not bad for “a club player”!
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It’s remarkable that Pancho prevailed despite what, by modern standards, would be considered terrible conditioning habits. He even drank and smoked while competing professionally. One can only wonder what heights he might have reached with a near-maniacal commitment to fitness like Novak Djokovic’s.

It’s also curious that @Lleytonstation looks down on him. Given his well-known 172 phobia, you’d think he would automatically support tall players as Pancho.
 
Sudacafan said:
It’s remarkable that Pancho prevailed despite what, by modern standards, would be considered terrible conditioning habits. He even drank and smoked while competing professionally. One can only wonder what heights he might have reached with a near-maniacal commitment to fitness like Novak Djokovic’s.

It’s also curious that @Lleytonstation looks down on him. Given his well-known 172 phobia, you’d think he would automatically support tall players as Pancho.
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Don’t know this 172 reference. Have seen it mentioned, with no real context, once or twice in posts but have no clue regarding its significance. Is it mathematical? Numerology? Someone’s IQ?

Is 172 cm the height of @Lleytonstation? I believe the height of Lleyton Hewitt is closer to 179 so that can’t be it.
 
SystemicAnomaly said:
Don’t know this 172 reference. Have seen it mentioned, with no real context, once or twice in posts but have no clue regarding its significance. Is it mathematical? Numerology? Someone’s IQ?

Is 172 cm the height of @Lleytonstation? I believe the height of Lleyton Hewitt is closer to 179 so that can’t be it.
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Alcaraz’s height was adjusted on the ATP lists from 6’1” to 6’0” some time ago, following complaints raised in various TTW threads.

Lleyton maintains that the correction still wasn’t sufficient — that it should have been revised even further, down to 172 cm.

Lleyton’s case borders on what could be called a peculiar condition, a kind of “midgetophobia.”
If I recall correctly from something he once revealed, he’s actually a tall guy himself.
 
Here’s how I see things, you might disagree and that’s cool.

Elisha is hot, your typical sex symbol, a man’s dream etc.

Ariana, the girl next door type.

Spencer comes off as if she’s unhappy in her relationship or marriage.
 
Sudacafan said:
It’s remarkable that Pancho prevailed despite what, by modern standards, would be considered terrible conditioning habits. He even drank and smoked while competing professionally. One can only wonder what heights he might have reached with a near-maniacal commitment to fitness like Novak Djokovic’s.

It’s also curious that @Lleytonstation looks down on him. Given his well-known 172 phobia, you’d think he would automatically support tall players as Pancho.
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I could see why you would think this. However, you would be wrong.

That said, if you combined the two players you might actually have a top 100 player on the atp.
 
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