Spinfire Pro v2 vs Hydrogen Proton vs Slingerbag

[westirvine]

I'm currently in the market for a ball machine as my 3rd grade daughter is picking up tennis quickly and I'd like to use it as cardio exercise. I was originally considering the Slingerbag, but the price increased several times the past few months and now at $800 I don't feel its worth it for a machine that only throws heavy topspin at a limited pace. I'd rather spend more and get a better machine if the Slingerbag isn't around 500-600.

For people that have tried or owned both, would you recommend the Spinfire Pro v2 or the Hydrogen Proton? And why?

From what I read, here are the biggest pros and cons of each:

Spinfire Pro v2
Pros:

1. Proven brand and reliability
2. Internal oscillator (No telegraphing of where the ball will go)
3. 2 year warranty
4. Ability to hit lobs (up to 60 degree angle)
5. Larger bucket size (140+ ball capacity)

Cons:

1. Cost is expensive $2399 and charges for shipping and extra accessories
2. Weight (weighs 40 pounds, although has wheels not fun carrying in and out of the car)
3. Size (much larger than Proton will only fit in our minivan)
4. Not programmable

Hydrogen Proton
Pros:

1. Weight (weighs only 20 pounds so easily portable, we put everything in a wagon to the court anyways)
2. Cost (not cheap $1695, but several hundred to a thousand cheaper than Spinfire v2)
3. Size (fits easily in any car)
4. Programmable drills

Cons:

1. Drift (machine drifts requiring recentering every so often)
2. 1 year warranty only
3. New brand, unknown reliability
4. No lobs (only up to 26 degree angle)
5. Smaller bucket size (80+ ball capacity)

Concern #1: Proton is the inability to throw up lobs
I'm not sure if this should be a deal breaker. For those that own Spinfire or any other ball machine, is throwing up lobs useful? Does it consistently throw the lobs in the same spot for young kids to practice? Do you regularly use it practice overheads?
One of the hardest things to learn is serving and overheads for kids. And its very hard for me to consistently feed a lob exactly at the right spot for her to hit. It would be nice if the machine could throw it in the same predictable spot everytime.

Concern #2: Spinfire heavy weight and size
I've owned a ball machine in the past but rarely ever used it because it was too heavy and cumbersome to set up. And although lifting 40 pounds is not a problem for me, my kids or wife wouldn't be able to set it up themselves. I'm not sure if Spinfire owners ever had that experience of not using the ball machine so often because its too cumbersome. Please let me know.

Thanks so much in advance,

 

[!<-_->!]

I can only comment on the Proton as that's the one I have.

Agree with your pros for the most part. Want to emphasize that portability is a huge reason for my decision. Something like the Slingerbag, for example, I just don't see myself wanting to move it around all the time since it's cumbersome.

Regarding the cons, I haven't noticed the drifting too much yet, but I haven't used it extensively yet. In the other thread seems like some other people have found some cheap workarounds to make it drift less or not drift.

Really hoping the unit can be somewhat durable. A legit concern, but can't really comment further.

Capacity is a bit annoying. Find myself picking up balls pretty quickly.

In general I'd say a machine is good for getting some reps in, but doesn't do much beyond that. I'm finding it's hard to time a split step w/ a ball machine since there's no way to visually see the setup. If your goal is to hit the ball that as closely resembles a person hitting at you, probably a worthwhile endeavor.

 

[JEDI MASTER]

I've had the Silent Partner, Tennis Tutor, SlingerBag, and now the Proton...

though not perfect.. the only one i'd recommend is the Proton for it's weight, portability, programming and ease of use...

i've had mine since Jan.2021 from the original 1st pre-order
and shot over 25000 balls so far.. no major issues.

 

[westirvine]

I can only comment on the Proton as that's the one I have.

Agree with your pros for the most part. Want to emphasize that portability is a huge reason for my decision. Something like the Slingerbag, for example, I just don't see myself wanting to move it around all the time since it's cumbersome.

Regarding the cons, I haven't noticed the drifting too much yet, but I haven't used it extensively yet. In the other thread seems like some other people have found some cheap workarounds to make it drift less or not drift.

Really hoping the unit can be somewhat durable. A legit concern, but can't really comment further.

Capacity is a bit annoying. Find myself picking up balls pretty quickly.

In general I'd say a machine is good for getting some reps in, but doesn't do much beyond that. I'm finding it's hard to time a split step w/ a ball machine since there's no way to visually see the setup. If your goal is to hit the ball that as closely resembles a person hitting at you, probably a worthwhile endeavor.

How many balls do you find being able to fit in the Proton? If I'm taking turns with my daughter, if it fit 80 balls that means we each only hit 40 before we have to pick up. That could be annoying, and another point for the Spinfire.

 

[westirvine]

I've had the Silent Partner, Tennis Tutor, SlingerBag, and now the Proton...

though not perfect.. the only one i'd recommend is the Proton for it's weight, portability, programming and ease of use...

i've had mine since Jan.2021 from the original 1st pre-order
and shot over 25000 balls so far.. no major issues.

Thanks for the feedback, since you owned the larger ball machines like SlingerBag do you find yourself using the Proton more often than your previous ball machines because its form factor?

 

[OldManStan]

I’ve been fortunate enough to have owned/played with several ball machine brands.

• Silent Partner Edge Star - Very simple to use and repair, not much in terms of tech inside of the machine. Can be a bit cumbersome to bring in and out the car (scratched my door on accident….) It can throw balls faster than some pitchers, which can be fun.
• Tennis Tutor ProLite - More portable than the Silent Partner. Doesn’t have topspin unfortunately. Hopper flaps can break.
• Slinger w/ Oscillation - Tried my friends Slinger. Great all in one. Topspin only feeds. Balls can sometimes get stuck inside.
• Lobster Phenom II - Needs to be plugged in to an AC source, but wow was this thing designed and built with quality in mind. Great built in functions and drills. #2 on my list behind the Proton.
• Proton Ball Machine - Absolutely love it. Being able to customize the feeds with just your phone is amazing. It’s basically calibrate (for the first shot) and go. The only thing that I have an issue with is the drift in the machine after a full basket. Easily fixable by placing a sponge / wristband underneath.

 

[!<-_->!]

How many balls do you find being able to fit in the Proton? If I'm taking turns with my daughter, if it fit 80 balls that means we each only hit 40 before we have to pick up. That could be annoying, and another point for the Spinfire.

My ball hopper holds about 80 balls so you'd only be looking at about 40 each if that's the case. I believe the machine can hold about 100 though.

 

[JEDI MASTER]

Thanks for the feedback, since you owned the larger ball machines like SlingerBag do you find yourself using the Proton more often than your previous ball machines because its form factor?

when the Slingerbag is full of balls.. it's quite heavy and bulky. especially trying to get it in and out of a SUV. I sold mine after 2hrs of use. the other machines i've sold as well even before
I received the Proton.. i have no regrets. i'll keep mine til V2 is released..but that may be a couple years down the road.

 

[westirvine]

when the Slingerbag is full of balls.. it's quite heavy and bulky. especially trying to get it in and out of a SUV. I sold mine after 2hrs of use. the other machines i've sold as well even before
I received the Proton.. i have no regrets. i'll keep mine til V2 is released..but that may be a couple years down the road.

That's comforting to know then I ended up not buying the Slingerbag. I was getting upset everytime they raised the price not buying it earlier, but it turned out to be a blessing in disguise.

 

[westirvine]

I’ve been fortunate enough to have owned/played with several ball machine brands.

• Silent Partner Edge Star - Very simple to use and repair, not much in terms of tech inside of the machine. Can be a bit cumbersome to bring in and out the car (scratched my door on accident….) It can throw balls faster than some pitchers, which can be fun.
• Tennis Tutor ProLite - More portable than the Silent Partner. Doesn’t have topspin unfortunately. Hopper flaps can break.
• Slinger w/ Oscillation - Tried my friends Slinger. Great all in one. Topspin only feeds. Balls can sometimes get stuck inside.
• Lobster Phenom II - Needs to be plugged in to an AC source, but wow was this thing designed and built with quality in mind. Great built in functions and drills. #2 on my list behind the Proton.
• Proton Ball Machine - Absolutely love it. Being able to customize the feeds with just your phone is amazing. It’s basically calibrate (for the first shot) and go. The only thing that I have an issue with is the drift in the machine after a full basket. Easily fixable by placing a sponge / wristband underneath.

Glad to hear you love the Proton, sounds like everyone so far loves it. But do you ever wish it could throw up lobs, or is that not a common use case that most people use their ball machines for?

 

[OldManStan]

Glad to hear you love the Proton, sounds like everyone so far loves it. But do you ever wish it could throw up lobs, or is that not a common use case that most people use their ball machines for?

Haven't tried, but putting it at the back of the fence should give you a good enough lob.

 

[JEDI MASTER]

Haven't tried, but putting it at the back of the fence should give you a good enough lob.

i've tried it.. not perfect.. but it's good enough.

 

[OldManStan]

i've tried it.. not perfect.. but it's good enough.

I wonder if a 2x4 would work…

 

[itschautime]

I have the Proton and we really like it. Here are my thoughts.

Weight. The weight was one of the biggest reasons why we got it, we only live 2 blocks from our courts, but it's manageable to carry the proton over and not get tired. I believe it clocks in at 17 lbs. My sisters (a little whiny) wish it has wheels to wheel it but it's really not bad to carry it on your shoulder and also hold the handle to help support it. We also have a wagon, so I've entertained the idea of just putting it and my hopper and racket bag in the wagon to wheel it the two blocks.

Drift. Drift is a little annoying for me. I let my boyfriend hit first for a couple ~70 ball sessions, and by the time I'm up there, it's mostly hitting towards my backhand side. I still need to email Proton to see if there's any fixes for that so far. I know another thread had a Macgyver way to fix it but I haven't gotten around to that.

Charge. Boyfriend usually uses and charges it (I recently had ACL surgery so I'm not really doing much outside of volleys right now). I think it lasts us a good 3-5 sessions. Our sessions typically take 45-60 minutes. He does some drills and then finishes up with serve practice.

App. App is pretty cool. We have Androids, so I think the Android beta is out and we're trying that piece of it out. I will say that it keeps losing my phone's Bluetooth connection so we have to keep the phone pretty close to the machine or else we can't connect to the Proton. By "pretty close" I mean, I have to keep my phone within 2 feet of it lol. But the app is cool cause you can make your own drills and try out different custom shots so you can put it into your custom drills. I want the app to be a smidge more user-friendly though, but it's easy enough to work.

Oscillation. You see the machine moving from side to side or higher and lower when it's about to shoot a ball, but you can't tell if it's topspin or slice. I wish it had more internal oscillation but it's fine, I'm still engaged enough as it is.

Recalls. I received a recall notice for a relatively small issue about 2 weeks after I got it (hadn't taken it out to test by this point) - so we had to send it back to Hydrogen to get the issue fixed and sent right back. So that was annoying. But at least they were proactive and let us know ASAP when they found the issue.

Price. It's steep, but I like innovative things and I really wanted to try this out. I'm still pretty happy with the machine. I'm hoping the kinks get worked out sooner than later.

All in all, I'm happy with it. I want to get the drift addressed though, that's my biggest complaint. And hoping for some slight improvements on the app.

 

[westirvine]

i've tried it.. not perfect.. but it's good enough.

Is it worse than the other ball machines lobs you've tried in the past? Does it place it consistenly in the same spot, so my daughter can practice her smashes as a beginner?

 

[westirvine]

I have the Proton and we really like it. Here are my thoughts.

Weight. The weight was one of the biggest reasons why we got it, we only live 2 blocks from our courts, but it's manageable to carry the proton over and not get tired. I believe it clocks in at 17 lbs. My sisters (a little whiny) wish it has wheels to wheel it but it's really not bad to carry it on your shoulder and also hold the handle to help support it. We also have a wagon, so I've entertained the idea of just putting it and my hopper and racket bag in the wagon to wheel it the two blocks.

Drift. Drift is a little annoying for me. I let my boyfriend hit first for a couple ~70 ball sessions, and by the time I'm up there, it's mostly hitting towards my backhand side. I still need to email Proton to see if there's any fixes for that so far. I know another thread had a Macgyver way to fix it but I haven't gotten around to that.

Charge. Boyfriend usually uses and charges it (I recently had ACL surgery so I'm not really doing much outside of volleys right now). I think it lasts us a good 3-5 sessions. Our sessions typically take 45-60 minutes. He does some drills and then finishes up with serve practice.

App. App is pretty cool. We have Androids, so I think the Android beta is out and we're trying that piece of it out. I will say that it keeps losing my phone's Bluetooth connection so we have to keep the phone pretty close to the machine or else we can't connect to the Proton. By "pretty close" I mean, I have to keep my phone within 2 feet of it lol. But the app is cool cause you can make your own drills and try out different custom shots so you can put it into your custom drills. I want the app to be a smidge more user-friendly though, but it's easy enough to work.
.....

Thanks for the feedback! Glad to hear you are happy with it. I also have Android as well too as I'm in the Google ecosphere. Do you know if there's an Android watch app for it? Or is it only for the Apple watch?

 

[JEDI MASTER]

I have the Proton and we really like it. Here are my thoughts.

Weight. The weight was one of the biggest reasons why we got it, we only live 2 blocks from our courts, but it's manageable to carry the proton over and not get tired. I believe it clocks in at 17 lbs. My sisters (a little whiny) wish it has wheels to wheel it but it's really not bad to carry it on your shoulder and also hold the handle to help support it. We also have a wagon, so I've entertained the idea of just putting it and my hopper and racket bag in the wagon to wheel it the two blocks.

Drift. Drift is a little annoying for me. I let my boyfriend hit first for a couple ~70 ball sessions, and by the time I'm up there, it's mostly hitting towards my backhand side. I still need to email Proton to see if there's any fixes for that so far. I know another thread had a Macgyver way to fix it but I haven't gotten around to that.

Charge. Boyfriend usually uses and charges it (I recently had ACL surgery so I'm not really doing much outside of volleys right now). I think it lasts us a good 3-5 sessions. Our sessions typically take 45-60 minutes. He does some drills and then finishes up with serve practice.

App. App is pretty cool. We have Androids, so I think the Android beta is out and we're trying that piece of it out. I will say that it keeps losing my phone's Bluetooth connection so we have to keep the phone pretty close to the machine or else we can't connect to the Proton. By "pretty close" I mean, I have to keep my phone within 2 feet of it lol. But the app is cool cause you can make your own drills and try out different custom shots so you can put it into your custom drills. I want the app to be a smidge more user-friendly though, but it's easy enough to work.

Oscillation. You see the machine moving from side to side or higher and lower when it's about to shoot a ball, but you can't tell if it's topspin or slice. I wish it had more internal oscillation but it's fine, I'm still engaged enough as it is.

Recalls. I received a recall notice for a relatively small issue about 2 weeks after I got it (hadn't taken it out to test by this point) - so we had to send it back to Hydrogen to get the issue fixed and sent right back. So that was annoying. But at least they were proactive and let us know ASAP when they found the issue.

Price. It's steep, but I like innovative things and I really wanted to try this out. I'm still pretty happy with the machine. I'm hoping the kinks get worked out sooner than later.

All in all, I'm happy with it. I want to get the drift addressed though, that's my biggest complaint. And hoping for some slight improvements on the app.

got to the Proton thread for some drift hacks...

 

[itschautime]

Thanks for the feedback! Glad to hear you are happy with it. I also have Android as well too as I'm in the Google ecosphere. Do you know if there's an Android watch app for it? Or is it only for the Apple watch?

No Android watch app that I know of right now! But it's something I would be looking forward to in the future!

 

[timaku]

did you end up finding a good machine for lobs?

 

[westirvine]

Sadly I did not find one, I opted for going with the Hydrogen Proton. I haven't tried placing the machine all the way against fence and angling up with a plywood, as I'm afraid it will topple over to one side. I'm waiting for someone else to try it first and be the guinea pig.

That being said, I'm really happy with the Proton. I use it with my daughter about 5 times a week, so I'm getting really good exercise and I can definitely see improvement in both our games. Here are my pros and cons of the Proton after owning it a few weeks:


Pros:

1. Very Light I don't really use the strap because its a hassle placing it on and off, but the machine is so light I can easily carry it with one hand and have the other hand free to do other things. I just place it in my wagon, with a ball hopper with 70 balls, another tote bag with another 70 balls, the hydrogen proton, 2 rackets and ball Kollectr on top.
2. Customizable programs. I find this so useful to use, as I don't really use any of the preset programs as they don't fit what I want. I've so far programmed 10 different custom drills depending on what I'm trying to work on with my daughter, ranging from volleys, deep high shots, approach shots, etc.
3. Ryobi Compatible Battery - I can use the same Ryobi batteries on some of my tools for the Hydrogen proton and the battery lasts a long time. I'll generally recharge it once or at most twice a week.
4. Cool - Almost everyone that sees the machine is amazed by it and asks me about it and how much it costs. However usually when they find out the price, they say they'll stick with the wall. =P
5. Super Fun - it makes working out so enjoyable, by far better than Echelon or doing workout videos at home.
6. Bucket Size - It turns out you can fit a lot more balls than advertised, I've fit 140 balls. Depending on your drills, the higher the balls thrown, the more steep the machine will go, and if its too high and too full some balls may fall out.

Cons:

1. No android watch app - This forces me to carry the phone in my pocket. If you don't have deep pockets the phone will fall out, which it did to me once and now the screen is cracked.
2. Telegraphing - if you pay attention to the machine direction, you know where the ball is going. I try not to pay attention to it, but I know my daughter sometimes cheats by looking at where its facing.
3. No lobs - The cost you pay for all the benefits the Protons gives
4. Drifting - I use scotch pad trick under the machine and the drift is minimal, but it is still there. I don't consider this a big deal though as I generally only need to readjust once or at most twice a session.

 

[antony]

I'm currently in the market for a ball machine as my 3rd grade daughter is picking up tennis quickly and I'd like to use it as cardio exercise. I was originally considering the Slingerbag, but the price increased several times the past few months and now at $800 I don't feel its worth it for a machine that only throws heavy topspin at a limited pace. I'd rather spend more and get a better machine if the Slingerbag isn't around 500-600.

For people that have tried or owned both, would you recommend the Spinfire Pro v2 or the Hydrogen Proton? And why?

From what I read, here are the biggest pros and cons of each:

Spinfire Pro v2
Pros:

1. Proven brand and reliability
2. Internal oscillator (No telegraphing of where the ball will go)
3. 2 year warranty
4. Ability to hit lobs (up to 60 degree angle)
5. Larger bucket size (140+ ball capacity)

Cons:

1. Cost is expensive $2399 and charges for shipping and extra accessories
2. Weight (weighs 40 pounds, although has wheels not fun carrying in and out of the car)
3. Size (much larger than Proton will only fit in our minivan)
4. Not programmable

Hydrogen Proton
Pros:

1. Weight (weighs only 20 pounds so easily portable, we put everything in a wagon to the court anyways)
2. Cost (not cheap $1695, but several hundred to a thousand cheaper than Spinfire v2)
3. Size (fits easily in any car)
4. Programmable drills

Cons:

1. Drift (machine drifts requiring recentering every so often)
2. 1 year warranty only
3. New brand, unknown reliability
4. No lobs (only up to 26 degree angle)
5. Smaller bucket size (80+ ball capacity)

Concern #1: Proton is the inability to throw up lobs
I'm not sure if this should be a deal breaker. For those that own Spinfire or any other ball machine, is throwing up lobs useful? Does it consistently throw the lobs in the same spot for young kids to practice? Do you regularly use it practice overheads?
One of the hardest things to learn is serving and overheads for kids. And its very hard for me to consistently feed a lob exactly at the right spot for her to hit. It would be nice if the machine could throw it in the same predictable spot everytime.

Concern #2: Spinfire heavy weight and size
I've owned a ball machine in the past but rarely ever used it because it was too heavy and cumbersome to set up. And although lifting 40 pounds is not a problem for me, my kids or wife wouldn't be able to set it up themselves. I'm not sure if Spinfire owners ever had that experience of not using the ball machine so often because its too cumbersome. Please let me know.

Thanks so much in advance,

I’ve had both, returned my Spinfire and am happy with my Proton now, but I would say your comparison is accurate. It’s up to your personal choices.

I prefer the programmable drills of the Proton. The SpinFire was repetitive, even with random mode, as the speed and spin settings are not random. I am hoping there will be a lob block of some sort for the proton later.

 

[travis100]

I’ve had both, returned my Spinfire and am happy with my Proton now, but I would say your comparison is accurate. It’s up to your personal choices.

I prefer the programmable drills of the Proton. The SpinFire was repetitive, even with random mode, as the speed and spin settings are not random. I am hoping there will be a lob block of some sort for the proton later.

I have spinshot with customizable like proton, but has only 120 balls ,I don't like less ball,it's boring to pick up, and also I don't like the app phone ,I would prefer something like spinfire and I am thinking about it .
You are the first person that I read that spinfire has repetive random mode ,but might this happen on mi spinshot and I didn't notice or either proton,who knows.. in your proton speed and spin its different?and on SPINSHOT i thin that ifs different .. maybe I spinfire was upgraded and it's different,but for me I would like a machind with more balls,and remote control,not app phone, in reality customizable drills not so many interesting

 

[gotoyogesh007]

If I have to buy a Ball Machine now(May2024) which one would you recommend ?

 

[ryohazuki222]

If I could only have one I’d have the proton. (And do.)

However, I ended up starting with the slinger (justify that I actually use it enough to justify larger spend).

Cool thing about the slinger that I don’t see anyone talk about is that its price point is so incredible that there’s a strong used market for them.

Ended up re buying a slinger for “handfed” ball drills to use maybe 20% of the time. Proton is 80% of the time.

For above reason I’m currently waiting for Titan to update and make the app closer to the proton app and thinking I might sell both and consolidate on the titan ace.

You couldn’t convince me to get a ball machine that either has an app (proton, titan, etc.) or incredibly simple controls (slinger).

For context, I used to work at tennis clubs with those expensive ball machines. Always thought I hated ball machines. Turns out I just hate those old type ball machines.

 

[Spinfire]

Interesting thread. Definitely pros and cons between choosing our machine and the Proton. I just thought I'd mention that in July 2024 we released our new smart phone app for iOS and Android, along with the Apple Watch. You can now program an unlimited number of drills with up to 30 shots per drill. We even have an AI drill creator, where you simply explain the drill to the app with speech and it will create it for you. For example "Give me an intermediate drill with 2 topspin forehands, then two wide slice backhands, a short ball, two volleys and then a smash." and the AI will automatically create it for you. We've spent hundreds of hours on court collecting shot data to teach the AI how to create these drills. We hope you love it. But we're not resting here, the app is being updated daily with user feedback along with implementing our ideas, so feel free to let us know what you want and we'll try to add it.

 

[gotoyogesh007]

Interesting thread. Definitely pros and cons between choosing our machine and the Proton. I just thought I'd mention that in July 2024 we released our new smart phone app for iOS and Android, along with the Apple Watch. You can now program an unlimited number of drills with up to 30 shots per drill. We even have an AI drill creator, where you simply explain the drill to the app with speech and it will create it for you. For example "Give me an intermediate drill with 2 topspin forehands, then two wide slice backhands, a short ball, two volleys and then a smash." and the AI will automatically create it for you. We've spent hundreds of hours on court collecting shot data to teach the AI how to create these drills. We hope you love it. But we're not resting here, the app is being updated daily with user feedback along with implementing our ideas, so feel free to let us know what you want and we'll try to add it.

SPINFIRE Your pricing is the highest in comparison with PROTON and TITAN and not to mention both PROTON and TITAN has new design and architecture like their batteries are smaller, lighter and compact and on the other hand yours product line still has old design and yet costly.

 

[Mayday0717]

I agree, I just ordered a Titan One because I save a few hundred, gain some portability, and a newer design. If they manage to deliver a good app update in Q4 as promised, I think I'll have no regrets. Bummed I missed out on a used proton on sale local for $1000 tho, that would've been even better.

 

[Spinfire]

SPINFIRE Your pricing is the highest in comparison with PROTON and TITAN and not to mention both PROTON and TITAN has new design and architecture like their batteries are smaller, lighter and compact and on the other hand yours product line still has old design and yet costly.

Hi Gotoyogesh007. I agree our machine is not the cheapest offering on the market. I agree that Proton and Titan (this is Spinshot's new brand right?) have smaller, lighter batteries which use Lithium-ion technology. The lithium batteries we supply are LiFePO4 so you may like to check the differences between these technologies. I think Proton has a 5Ah battery, whereas ours are usually 18Ah for the LiFePO4, so they are significantly longer lasting both in terms of play time and their overall lifetime (I say usually because our global distributors sometimes offer larger batteries). It is great that their batteries can click in and out of their machine and use the generic Ryobi batteries. Our external batteries are similar in that they just plug in and sit next to the machine and can be conveniently swapped and charged separately.

I'm not too sure what you mean about our machine having an old design? Our v2 machine launched late in 2020 and we have continued to improve it since then, constantly updating software, releasing new throwing wheels in 2022 and recently releasing a new motherboard and iOS/Android app (phone & watch). The AI functionality our app has is not available in any of the competitor machines as far as I'm aware. And we're not done yet with our app, as we are improving it daily with our in-house team. We have been manufacturing ball machines since 2009, so we have had much longer than these two competitors to iron out all of the little bugs that can be present in ball machines, so our product is very stable and reliable.

I'm certainly not trying to speak negatively about these competitors, as I'm sure they are great machines too with different features and price points to suit different customers.

 

[Soundbyte]

My Spinfire Pro V2 circuit board has been set in for the upgrade for the app. Should have it by next of next week!