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Thanks, couldn’t really tell.
 
I’m watching the match now. I’ve never seen a mid-tournament brand change like this.
Somebody was saying (well it was our friend Jonas) that they don’t think he should be playing with the PT57A, especially given his play style. Message received then?
 
Alexandrova using a blacked out frame in Abu Dhabi.

The head looks really round. Definitely a 100 sq. Inch. Could be a gravity? Have not been able to get a good look at the butt cap based on images on google.

As a Wilson blade user thought she might be testing the Python like a lot of others, but it doesn’t look like the 98 at least.
 
Alexandrova using a blacked out frame in Abu Dhabi.

The head looks really round. Definitely a 100 sq. Inch. Could be a gravity? Have not been able to get a good look at the butt cap based on images on google.

As a Wilson blade user thought she might be testing the Python like a lot of others, but it doesn’t look like the 98 at least.
My thought would be if she's testing a Wilson she would have kept the stencil on.
 
My thought would be if she's testing a Wilson she would have kept the stencil on.

Alexandrova used the blackout/ no stencil frame for the first set of the Abu Dhabi final yesterday, switched to something with Blade V9 paint and Wilson stencil for the second set (and then her game fell apart).

She then came back out for the doubles final with the blackout/ no stencil frame.
 
Not according to the experts in the python thread who say wilson have no idea what they're doing with the release.
:-D
Well so far it's use on the tour has come at the expense of the Blade so robbing Peter to pay Paul. The 26 VCORE and PA are going to sell very well regardless of what this frame does so the reality is that this frame could end up cannibalizing Blade sales if it's successful. It's hard to predict anything right now until retail versions become available because they are probably going to have different specs and play a little differently.
 
Well so far it's use on the tour has come at the expense of the Blade so robbing Peter to pay Paul. The 26 VCORE and PA are going to sell very well regardless of what this frame does so the reality is that this frame could end up cannibalizing Blade sales if it's successful. It's hard to predict anything right now until retail versions become available because they are probably going to have different specs and play a little differently.
It's inevitable that it's going to cannibalize some Blade sales. Won't a more controlled PA lure some Pure Strike users?
What we don't have a way of knowing is how many of those former Blade users would've moved away from Wilson entirely if they didn't have the Python.
 
It's inevitable that it's going to cannibalize some Blade sales. Won't a more controlled PA lure some Pure Strike users?
What we don't have a way of knowing is how many of those former Blade users would've moved away from Wilson entirely if they didn't have the Python.
Clearly it seems to be a smooth transition from the Blade for so many pros to move to it so I assume it plays very similarly with possibly a little more spin potential.
 
Well so far it's use on the tour has come at the expense of the Blade so robbing Peter to pay Paul. The 26 VCORE and PA are going to sell very well regardless of what this frame does so the reality is that this frame could end up cannibalizing Blade sales if it's successful. It's hard to predict anything right now until retail versions become available because they are probably going to have different specs and play a little differently.
Once the racquet is retail and in full flight, they will paint half the pro's as Blades again.
They need interest to drive sales and then eventually people [not on this forum] will see pro's back with a Blade pj and some with this pj and never know the difference.
 
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Once the racquet is retail and in full flight, they will paint half the pro's as Blades again.
They need interest to drive sales and then eventually people [not on this forum] will see pro's back with a Blade pj and some with this ph and never know the difference.
Apart from ProStaff and I guess the early days of H22/H19 etc, I can't really think of a frame that they have done completely outrageous paintjobs for tbh, theyve always been painted with the closest modern incarnation of whatever the base frame is for the most part
 
Apart from ProStaff and I guess the early days of H22/H19 etc, I can't really think of a frame that they have done completely outrageous paintjobs for tbh, theyve always been painted with the closest modern incarnation of whatever the base frame is for the most part
All of the Steam users with a Blade pj?
I wouldn't call that "close"
I understand the sentiment, they aren't as egregious as Head.
 
All of the Steam users with a Blade pj?
I wouldn't call that "close"
I understand the sentiment, they aren't as egregious as Head.
Very different playability but the beam is not thatttttt dissimilar, especially Blade 100 vs Steam 100 - Steam 100 was kind of a Blade style mold with the specs of the Tour 95 frame - see if you can pick out the Steam 100 here
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Very different playability but the beam is not thatttttt dissimilar, especially Blade 100 vs Steam 100 - Steam 100 was kind of a Blade style mold with the specs of the Tour 95 frame - see if you can pick out the Steam 100 here
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I'm more thinking purpose.
Steam, to me, is more like the Ultra, more about power.
Steam is the 1st image, it has a boxier throat shape above the grip and less angled elongation extending to the hoop.
Edit: the second also looks like a steam.
 
I'm more thinking purpose.
Steam, to me, is more like the Ultra, more about power.
Steam is the 1st image, it has a boxier throat shape above the grip and less angled elongation extending to the hoop.
Edit: the second also looks like a steam.
Yeah I get you, my point is more that the beam of the Steam 100 is closest to a Blade with Tour 95 line specs even if its stiffer and more powerful etc... so for a paintjob, it makes sense as a Blade rather than an Ultra

1. Blade 100
2. Steam 100
3. Blade 98
 
It's inevitable that it's going to cannibalize some Blade sales. Won't a more controlled PA lure some Pure Strike users?
What we don't have a way of knowing is how many of those former Blade users would've moved away from Wilson entirely if they didn't have the Python.
Very true. Considering how popular Project One7 once was, the extremely successful PA98 has arguably made the Pure Strike silo obsolete. Of course, endorsement do play a part. Who want to play like Cameron Norrie?
 
Yeah I get you, my point is more that the beam of the Steam 100 is closest to a Blade with Tour 95 line specs even if its stiffer and more powerful etc... so for a paintjob, it makes sense as a Blade rather than an Ultra

1. Blade 100
2. Steam 100
3. Blade 98
My only question is #1 actually a Blade 100 or the new "Blade 100 Pro" that's about to be released and is actually the steam 100 mold :unsure:
 
Yet they're calling the re-released steam 100 a Blade
Yes, because as I've just demonstrated the beam of a Steam 100 is largely indistinguishable from that of a Blade (and is largely a 100sqin Blade mold with some DNA from the Tour line) where the Steam 99 has its own unique geometry - obviously yes, there are commercial reasons for them to want a bunch of higher profile WTA players with the Blade Pro 100 and Demon/Kostyuk with the Ultra Pro as they head towards dumping the Head Radical, Prestige copies and the 6.1 from the Pro line.
 
Yes, because as I've just demonstrated the beam of a Steam 100 is largely indistinguishable from that of a Blade (and is largely a 100sqin Blade mold with some DNA from the Tour line) where the Steam 99 has its own unique geometry
Indistinguishable is a stretch.
The Blade has a 21mm beam and the Steam a 23mm
Plus the throat is a different shape, wider above the handle and less angled as it goes to the hoop.
The blade 100 is a 22mm beam
 
Indistinguishable is a stretch.
The Blade has a 21mm beam and the Steam a 23mm
Plus the throat is a different shape, wider above the handle and less angled as it goes to the hoop.
The blade 100 is a 22mm beam
And yet you guessed wrong/were unable to identify the Blade 100 and the Steam 100 confidently so... yes ofc there are differences, but also some fairly clear similarities
 
Source?

You were wrong about raducanu and had no source there either
Shelton is not leaving On. No way! Ben Shelton is loyal to On and he prefers On as an outsider to Nike, as do a lot of people. I don't think he will sell out for Nike, just like I don't think Coco Gauff would leave New Balance and sell out for Nike!!!
 
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