Spring 2024 NCAA upsets

Dostanic has been struggling of late so not sure he would have tilted the match for the Trojans, maybe could have made the score line closer.

Southern Cal just not very good this year; losing Marek hurt badly as he more than held down a top of the lineup spot in both singles and doubles. Ryan Colby transferring out was also a blow to the depth as he could win and down well down low.
 

andfor

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Memphis women def. undefeated Miss St. 4-3. Another first win that I can ever recall for the Memphis women over MSU.
 

Sureshot

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USC blanked by Baylor. All six singles seemed to be going Baylor’s way in straight sets before the match was called. Wonder if Dostanic is injured and if he will he show up for Indoors.

Both the SCs (South Carolina and Southern Cal) appear to have hit a rough patch.
 

bobleenov1963

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Yeah, it's a shame. Minnesota was blindsided too. Of course it comes down to numbers, but those guys on the tennis team certainly contributed more to the university than many of the football players riding the bench do. Geoff did a great job getting solid transfers and offers for the guys that wanted it at least. Glad he found a head coaching spot in Purdue too.
How do you come to that conclusion? Do you have any evidences to backup that claim?
 

bobleenov1963

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It’s wild to think the Gophers took the whole tennis team to Australia in Jan 2018 and 3 years later the team was cut. U of Minn has a major expansion of athletic facilities that was completed in 2018. With the pandemic, I wonder if loss of revenues and donors to pay for debt on that expansion was part of reason some nonrevenue teams were cut. It is bad enough when any teams are cut but to cut the #4 team in a P5 conference plus Iowa which was in middle weakened the conference. Big10 should do better now with a strong MSU and the addition of the two Cali teams next fall.
The Golden Gophers eliminates the men tennis team while keeping the men golf team. What does that tell you about the tennis program? You can play tennis indoors in Minnesota in the winter time but you can't play golf in the winter in Minnesota. That tells me the tennis program at the University Minnesota has no leverage while the golf program does.
 

bluetrain4

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Woefully poor management by previous staff is the main culprit. GY has only been there a year now so needs time. Purdue has a lot of factors going for it: decent facilities, solid academics with plus engineering programs, only 2 hours away from Chicago, AD that is willing to spend. That said, it is in the middle of absolutely nowhere and in downtrodden town
Plus, this description fits a handful of Big 10 schools (and even more if you allow more distance from Chicago). Plus all those schools have to deal with the climate disadvantage. which can be overcome, but only a handful of schools seem to be able to do it.
 

andfor

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The Golden Gophers eliminates the men tennis team while keeping the men golf team. What does that tell you about the tennis program? You can play tennis indoors in Minnesota in the winter time but you can't play golf in the winter in Minnesota. That tells me the tennis program at the University Minnesota has no leverage while the golf program does.
College golf does not sit on your imaginary throne of immunity. Although golf and cross country are are cut to a lesser extent than tennis, they are also impacted.
 
I feel like I keep saying “a not strong version” of ___ fill in the blank team. UGA, Florida, UNC, USC, Michigan etc. seems like a lot of down programs this year.

So in contrast, who are a few that look better than usual this season? Michigan State the clear #1 in that category but beyond that…?
 

bobleenov1963

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College golf does not sit on your imaginary throne of immunity. Although golf and cross country are are cut to a lesser extent than tennis, they are also impacted.
I never said that golf programs didn't cut but much less than tennis programs. Minnesota eliminated tennis and kept golf, what does that tell you?

Where I live in the nation capital, George Washington University got rid of its men tennis program and still kept its men golf program, which 7 out of 8 players on the roster are international students ;).

Edit: Even two Big10 schools like University of Maryland (local to me) and Rutgers University eliminated the men tennis programs but did not touch the men golf team. That said volume about the state of college men tennis these days.
 
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Sureshot

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I feel like I keep saying “a not strong version” of ___ fill in the blank team. UGA, Florida, UNC, USC, Michigan etc. seems like a lot of down programs this year.

So in contrast, who are a few that look better than usual this season? Michigan State the clear #1 in that category but beyond that…?
San Diego? Wake?
 

andfor

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I never said that golf programs didn't cut but much less than tennis programs. Minnesota eliminated tennis and kept golf, what does that tell you?

Where I live in the nation capital, George Washington University got rid of its men tennis program and still kept its men golf program, which 7 out of 8 players on the roster are international students ;).

Edit: Even two Big10 schools like University of Maryland (local to me) and Rutgers University eliminated the men tennis programs but did not touch the men golf team. That said volume about the state of college men tennis these days.
Tennis has been at the forefront of teams getting cuts since the 70's, mostly men's tennis due to Title IX. My guess is the AD's can't play tennis and since golf is an easier "game" to learn and also drink beer while playing, golf gets a pass.
 

andfor

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I feel like I keep saying “a not strong version” of ___ fill in the blank team. UGA, Florida, UNC, USC, Michigan etc. seems like a lot of down programs this year.

So in contrast, who are a few that look better than usual this season? Michigan State the clear #1 in that category but beyond that…?
Along with @Sureshot 's mention of Wake and San Diego, it looks Harvard and Columbia can make a deeper run than last year. Outside of the P5, VCU, Memphis and MTSU are looking stronger this year as well and top 25 contenders. Are there any other teams lurking outside the current top 25 being overlooked?
 

bobleenov1963

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Tennis has been at the forefront of teams getting cuts since the 70's, mostly men's tennis due to Title IX. My guess is the AD's can't play tennis and since golf is an easier "game" to learn and also drink beer while playing, golf gets a pass.
Golf is an easier "game" to learn, I didn't know that? Let me know when you shoot even par at Augusta or Pebble beach CCs

College golf gets a pass because it has powerful donors that give lot of money to the universities whereas in tennis, not very much. ADs have to answer to these rich donors and can't eliminate golf programs.
 

andfor

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Golf is an easier "game" to learn, I didn't know that? Let me know when you shoot even par at Augusta or Pebble beach CCs

College golf gets a pass because it has powerful donors that give lot of money to the universities whereas in tennis, not very much. ADs have to answer to these rich donors and can't eliminate golf programs.
Let me know when you shoot par at putt putt and get a hole in one in the clowns mouth.

There goes Bob again with his over generalizations and elitism.
 

bobleenov1963

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Let me know when you shoot par at putt putt and get a hole in one in the clowns mouth.

There goes Bob again with his over generalizations and elitism.
I guess you can't handle the truth. What did I say that is wrong? You can play tennis for free at public tennis court. You have to pay to play golf, even at public golf course. Golf has rich donors and tennis does not. What's not true about it? That's how the world operates money talks. Take it up with the ADs if you don't like it.
 

andfor

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I guess you can't handle the truth. What did I say that is wrong? You can play tennis for free at public tennis court. You have to pay to play golf, even at public golf course. Golf has rich donors and tennis does not. What's not true about it? That's how the world operates money talks. Take it up with the ADs if you don't like it.
You can't show any data supporting your assumption. You also assume all golf programs have some sort of mysterious big money donor behind the curtain. Is there more money behind golf sure, you have the whole PGA and LIV thing. But you can't tie actual data, testimonials or stories to what you claim.
 

bobleenov1963

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You can't show any data supporting your assumption. You also assume all golf programs have some sort of mysterious big money donor behind the curtain. Is there more money behind golf sure, you have the whole PGA and LIV thing. But you can't tie actual data, testimonials or stories to what you claim.
How do you explain George Washington University (GW), University of Maryland (UMD), University of Minnesota, and University of Iowa dropped men tennis program and kept men golf program?
 

bobleenov1963

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Don't know because there's no story, just assumptions.

Look at this list of universities that dropped men tennis program in 2021 and before that, how many of them still have the men golf team? I am willing to bet almost all of them still have men golf team. What does that tell you? Even in a cold place like South Dakota State University also has a men golf team :-D
 

andfor

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Look at this list of universities that dropped men tennis program in 2021 and before that, how many of them still have the men golf team? I am willing to bet almost all of them still have men golf team. What does that tell you?
Tells me the AD's can't play tennis, likes to golf and has a drinking problem.
 

tennisfan17

Professional
This year seems to be especially good for non P5 teams. Lots of talented programs. Really interested to see how MTSU and San Diego do this season.
 

tennisfan17

Professional
Very minor in the terms of upset but Washburn Women won 4-3 at Indianapolis this past week. Big win for them over a team ranked a little higher.
 
Two near misses today which would have been huge for these teams rankings.

SMU took Baylor down to the wire before falling 7-5 in a deciding 3rd set.(I was pulling for SMU to get the ranking boosting win)

Pepperdine lost to Texas A&M 7-6 in the deciding 3rd set on #2.
 
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UC San Diego who was way down below 150 in the rankings beat #51 Indiana.

Alabama State beat Dartmouth and is actually moving close to the top 75. Can’t remember a time when a SWAC team was ever that good.
 

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UC San Diego who was way down below 150 in the rankings beat #51 Indiana.

Alabama State beat Dartmouth and is actually moving close to the top 75. Can’t remember a time when a SWAC team was ever that good.
Shocking Indiana result. Looking over UCSD's results there was zero indication they would have a close match, let alone win. Too much time in the gaslight district for the Hoosiers? LOL

Good to see a SWAC team compete like Alabama St. Last HBCU I recall having some higher level success was South Carolina St. but that's been a few years back. Was Dartmouth being entertained at the union hall the night before? HAHA
 

Sureshot

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Don't know if it qualifies as an upset but the score line would suggest so. The Aggies beat the Vols 5-2. The Aggies are a well coached scrappy bunch. Eager to see how they go from here.
 

Sureshot

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Any idea when Gorzny returns and what's the matter with him? Also Fearnley seems to be playing with some sort of injury
 

LOBALOT

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And the ITA in their wisdom switched to no ad for d3 where a 1 hook break is all that is needed to win a match with typically no video and 1 roving official.

How much of that do you think is going on?
 
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