Stan deserves the credit

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Solo

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First of all I'd like to say commiserations to Nadal and his fans (yes his injury did come later in the match) but for the most part of the match (especially the first set and the second half of the second set), Stan was playing godly tennis, he had Nadal on the ropes. This win does not deserve to have an asterix because Stan battled hard to gain his way through and win the final, which was the icing on the cake.

This was his first ever GS final and he kept his mentality in check, a situation where he has never ever been in, he did a fantastic job and kept playing great to win. That one handed back hand is a beauty to watch and he deserves the full credit for winning it, it's not like he had a easy draw to come in, let alone win it.

So full congratulations to Stan and his fans, (even though he beat my boy in the QF) he really did deserve to win this. He is getting better and better. I just hope the media don't keep talking about the injury, it's a put off for the winner.

Edit -- QF not SF :lol:
 
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Crose

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Stan completely deserves the trophy. He is a phenomenal player and in his wins against Djokovic and Nadal, he played like the best player in the world.
 
Marius_Hancu

Marius_Hancu

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I voted for Stan in 5, I knew he had the weapons.

This is how the 1HBH must be played, and Federer hasn't done it since 2010 in London. Dimitrov showcased it too better than Federer against Nadal.

Huge progress for Wawrinka.

CONGRATULATIONS FOR WINNING TWICE AGAINST ALL STAKES AND HISTORY!!

In this respect, I consider this the upset of all time.
 
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Amelie Mauresmo

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Stan absolutely deserves credit he beat Djokovic and Nadal to win a slam. This is the first time in over four years someone out of the big 4 won a grand slam!
 
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tipsa...don'tlikehim! said:
Like Nadal said after the match, Stan was playing terrific tennis in the 1st set anyway, so injury or not Stan would have won
Congrats to him
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Yes that is what I was thinking. Even though I voted Stan to win the match in 4, I had thought Nadal would win this but Stan had massive motivation to win this from the beginning. As he said few days ago, he was tired of losing 5 set matches against Novak, and now that he went past that, he had nothing to lose in this final.

But knowing the newspapers tommorow, most of the news will be focused on the injury and not the GS winner, shame really. Beating Djokovic and Nadal, let alone, back-to-back is not a easy task for any player.
 
Carolina Racquet

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The fact is injuries are part of the game, especially at the end of a 2 week hard court tournament. Stan's game, and body, held up the best. Congrats!
 
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The Harkleroad

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Marius_Hancu said:
I voted for Stan in 5, I knew he had the weapons.

This is how the 1HBH must be played, and Federer hasn't done it since 2010 in London. Dimitrov showcased it too better than Federer against Nadal.

Huge progress for Wawrinka.

CONGRATULATIONS FOR WINNING TWICE AGAINST ALL STAKES AND HISTORY!!

In this respect, I consider this the upset of all time.
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Marius_Hancu said:
Sure. He did that to this friend and mentor Moya in front of me in Montreal several years ago. Moya was winning in the 3rd, to which Nadal called a medical timeout, which took 10 min, during which no treatment was administered, just a consultation in the end.

After that, Moya totally lost his rhythm and the match.

How many medical timeouts do we remember for Federer, the true Iron Man of the circuit? Practically none, and no one at strategically chosen moments.
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aldeayeah

aldeayeah

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Was rooting for Nadal but I'm not really unhappy about the result. A tough loss, but it's not all about winning, and this last week Stan has definitely been the Man.

WAMOS!
 
Solo

Solo

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Stan was voted to be the Darkhorse after all. Came true.

Even if he doesn't win any more slams, he's had a good career.
 
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Yes, full credit to Wawrinka. He went through three top ten players, two of them are giants of the game. I couldn't be more happier for the guy, well deserved and he has finally broken out of Federer's shadow also.
 
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fhdowntheline

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To me , watching Stan felt like watching Fed back in 2004-2006. His shots had the same or better heft , especially the backhand, and there were some sizzlers he fired out there. Even if Rafa was not injured, he would have had a tough final out there.
 
winstonlim8

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While I sympathise with Nadal, I also sympathise with Stan. It couldn't have been easy trying to beat an injured opponent without looking like a mean cold blooded jerk. Maybe that's why he lost concentration during the third set. Still, it was good that he managed to refocus and go on to win as he should have.
 
70後

70後

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I'm happy for Stan and his wife and all the sacrifices they made to achieve their goal.
 
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FreeBird

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This GS is well deserved. I was almost in tears when he won it (even though he is No. 6 on my fav list ;)). Beating Novak + Rafa = Mission Impossible!!! :)
 
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bluetrain4

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I wrote this in another thread concerning some media and fans' reluctance to give Stan credit:

It's unfortunate for Stan.

Yes, it would have been better for him to beat a healthy Nadal.

But, injuries are simply part of the game. Stand was good enough to beat Djokovic, and follow that up beating Berdych. He was good enough to make his first major final and play an incredible first set and get up a break before Nadal's injury became an issue. He was good enough to be in position to take advantage of a Nadal injury.

It's happened throughout tennis history. Lendl won an AO after Edberg retired in the final after being Edberg was up a set and a break at one point. Unfortunate for Edberg, but I still don't take anything Lendl. It was a true victory. He showed up and dealt with what was before him. What else can a player do?

I hate all of TWs talk of "asterisks" and compromised victories. It's not that us tennis fans can't recognize that some victories are tougher to come by than others and sometimes players do have luck fall in their favor or not, or that opponents are sometimes less than 100%. It's that we accept that this is what sports is, and know that something like Nadal's tweaked back is hardly rare, so we still give full credit to the winner.
 
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bluetrain4 said:
I wrote this in another thread concerning some media and fans' reluctance to give Stan credit:

It's unfortunate for Stan.

Yes, it would have been better for him to beat a healthy Nadal.

But, injuries are simply part of the game. Stand was good enough to beat Djokovic, and follow that up beating Berdych. He was good enough to make his first major final and play an incredible first set and get up a break before Nadal's injury became an issue. He was good enough to be in position to take advantage of a Nadal injury.

It's happened throughout tennis history. Lendl won an AO after Edberg retired in the final after being Edberg was up a set and a break at one point. Unfortunate for Edberg, but I still don't take anything Lendl. It was a true victory. He showed up and dealt with what was before him. What else can a player do?

I hate all of TWs talk of "asterisks" and compromised victories. It's not that us tennis fans can't recognize that some victories are tougher to come by than others and sometimes players do have luck fall in their favor or not, or that opponents are sometimes less than 100%. It's that we accept that this is what sports is, and know that something like Nadal's tweaked back is hardly rare, so we still give full credit to the winner.
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Such things exist only on the internet.

There is no asterisk on the silverware that you bring home with you after a tourney.
 
kiki

kiki

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all time switzerland´s greats

1-.Martina Hings

2-.Roger Federer

3-.Stanislav Wavrinka

4-.Marc Rosset or Jaco Hlasek

5-.Heinz Gunthardt
 
Marius_Hancu

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He is the first man EVER to beat the world #1 and #2 players to win a Grand Slam after losing 12 matches in a row (with no sets won either) to the first and 14 times in a row to the second.

I really appreciate this the most, and it's a strange record that will outlive all of us. It's a beautiful example of human persistence and resilience.
 
Solo

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He's the 3rd person to beat Nadal in a GS final, after Federer and Djokovic.

What a boss. And his FIRST EVER win came in a GS final. Man...he is gonna get laid tonight, big time. Bernard Tomic should send some of those girls he was dancing with over to Stanimal :lol:
 
Dan Z

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Completely agree - there is no asterisk.
The first set was absolutely nuts - especially when he came back from 0-40 down to take serve out the set... unbelievable mental strength.
 
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Day Tripper

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that cross court backhand to break Nadal's serve to love to open the second set was the most bad *** shot i have seen since that Federer backhand in the tie break with Djokovic at the Aussie Open a few years back.
 
swordtennis

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Agreed Stan outplayed Nadal that 1st set and a break and forced Nadal to step up big time and he tweaked his back. Then Stan had to overcome his own brain and Nadal's crafty game. 100% legit win.
 
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dafinch

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kiki said:
all time switzerland´s greats

1-.Martina Hings

2-.Roger Federer

3-.Stanislav Wavrinka

4-.Marc Rosset or Jaco Hlasek

5-.Heinz Gunthardt
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How the hell do you put Martina Fungus ahead of Federer?!?! She had a niche of a few years, then, the Big Babes developed, and that was the end of Frau Forehead's "dominance."
 
kiki

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ARFED said:
Well to be fair, GOAT Laver wasn`t even the number 2 player of his countrie for more than half of his career :twisted:
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cannot compare the tennis backgorund of the 2 countries man.

Like saying Pele was not the absolute best brazilian player as compared to Cristiano Ronaldo in Portugal, not the same concurrence at all.
 
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Anti-Fedal

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Of course he does, he played extraordinarily well to defeat Nole, Berdych and Nadal to take home the title. Congratulations to him.
 
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Maybe fortune favours, not the bold, but those who don't give up. for example, Li Na who was contemplating retiring last year after losing to Aggie, and of course Stan who lost those five setters also last year.
 
stingstang

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swordtennis said:
. Then Stan had to overcome his own brain and Nadal's crafty game. 100% legit win.
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Exactly this.

He's not getting credit for how hard it is beating an "injured" player. A long list of players have fallen for that one against Murray & Djokovic.

You need to be mentally tough - especially in a first GS final
 
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furryballs

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everyone who watched the match seen exactly what happened..only deluded nadal fanatics could convince themselves that stan didnt deserve it.
 
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