Stanford Stacking and still losing?

I have seen Stanford play several matches this year and I am dissapointed to see them stacking a lineup. No way Clayton is ahead of Thatcher and absolutely no way Kandath is ahead of Hirschman. They lost 5-2 to Baylor with only Greg and Ryan winning. I really think they have a better chance of winning the match playing straight up. Klahn needs to get his act together. Go Nor Cal!
 
I have seen Stanford play several matches this year and I am dissapointed to see them stacking a lineup. No way Clayton is ahead of Thatcher and absolutely no way Kandath is ahead of Hirschman. They lost 5-2 to Baylor with only Greg and Ryan winning. I really think they have a better chance of winning the match playing straight up. Klahn needs to get his act together. Go Nor Cal!

Clayton is better than Thacher. Klahn does need to get it togther. Hasn't Kandath always been ahead of Greg?
 
Clayton is better than Thacher. Klahn does need to get it togther. Hasn't Kandath always been ahead of Greg?

Clayton miiiight be able to beat Thacher sometimes

Kandath has been struggling all season at 6 (except his lone win for the team vs USC) while Hirshman has been a rock at 5

and then they switched 2 and 3 doubles also

maaaybe the coach really believed the 2-3 singles and/or the 2-3 doubles switch, but pulling all three switches for the first time in the same match is very suspicious

of course it didn't work, so no big deal i guess in the end (it might have prevented the shutout since Stanford won at the lower end of both of those singles switches...but one could equally speculate, I suppose, that Stanford would have done better without these switches)
 
Clayton is more of well rounded player than thacher. and he will play #2 rest of the season. Doubles teams will be reassessed as we go along. Coach Whit will determine which team will be give us the best chance to win at each spot in doubles.
 
Clayton is more of well rounded player than thacher. and he will play #2 rest of the season. Doubles teams will be reassessed as we go along. Coach Whit will determine which team will be give us the best chance to win at each spot in doubles.

Has Clayton got back into his winning ways? I haven't been checking in on college scores with all this HS work.
 
Clayton is 6-4 in dual matches, has a three match losing streak, and has no wins over anyone ranked in the top 50. In fact, he hasn't played anyone in the Top 25 this year.
 
stanford not stacking in singles vs USC (both 2-3 and 5-6 back to normal)

still have dubs switched

wonder if USC's coach petitioned or if Stanford gave up their games on their own...
 
yes. yes. we all know kandath played #5 for the first half of LAST year's season before he was correctly placed at #7 and never saw playing time in singles for pretty much the rest of the season.

kandath (at no. 6) and clayton (at no. 3) have played below their same respective teammates this entire season.... with the exception of last week's baylor match, which was a cheap move on coach Whit's part.
 
yes. yes. we all know kandath played #5 for the first half of LAST year's season before he was correctly placed at #7 and never saw playing time in singles for pretty much the rest of the season.

kandath (at no. 6) and clayton (at no. 3) have played below their same respective teammates this entire season.... with the exception of last week's baylor match, which was a cheap move on coach Whit's part.

+1, once i saw downtheline say "last year" i laughed and moved on to more intelligent posters
 
I really love how we don't insult any of you guys, but you guys just insult us. If you don't like it don't go into any Stanford thread. If you go into a thread stop complaining and grow up
 
Hasn't Kandath always been ahead of Greg?

sorry, i'm going to point out the lack of intelligence of any fan who apparently doesn't pay any attention at all to the current season but still tries to justify blatant lineup stacking on the basis of part of last season, whether they're a stanford fan or not

I really love how we don't insult any of you guys, but you guys just insult us. If you don't like it don't go into any Stanford thread. If you go into a thread stop complaining and grow up

thanks for the suggestions, but i'll wander into any threads i want, and if i see a basic lack of intelligence i'll be one of the people calling it out
 
Umm... I have no problem discussing Stanford's team and/or their results with any of you guys. But, 1) Stanford fans don't need to react to every single comment against Stanford. Like... there's no point in some posters arguing whether Stanford shuffled the lineup or not. They did. The lineup against Baylor is posted on the web. Their lineup every week before that was "normal". In yesterday's match against USC, Stanford used their "normal" lineup. A better discussion would be to argue if Stanford made a legitimate lineup change against Baylor. Did Thacher or Hirshman play bad in the previous dual match that would merit them being demoted? Did Thacher or Hirshman have an injury or sickness during practice that week that would merit Clayton and Kandath to play above them? It's hard to know as fans if a lineup change is legitimate because we don't know what happens in the daily lives of these players. That's why we ask questions and discuss the facts and the results. Nothing in the previous weeks suggested the lineup change. Clayton and Kandath haven't played well at no. 3 and no. 6, respectively. If anything, Thacher and Hirshman are the usual point earners for the Stanford team at no. 2 and no. 5. In fact, during the Baylor match, only Thacher and Hirshman won their matches playing at a lower position. Thats why, to me and to others, it appeared that Stanford was trying to stack in this match.

2) Most threads in this forum are made with a Stanford POV and are discussed in a Stanford POV. Last year's ITA indoor thread, Last year's NCAA thread, this year's Indoor thread, the next NCAA thread (hasn't been made yet), they all pretty much start out as a 'how is stanford doing' thread, then after that, we start talking about teams that actually make it past the rd of 16. Actually, even in the later rounds, somehow we still end up talking about Stanford and 'how Stanford is going to regroup in the next tournament'. If people started treating Stanford like a seed 9-16 team like they are, and not a 1-4 team like they were more than a decade ago, then we won't get into these, as others have called it, "pointless" arguments.
 
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Umm... I have no problem discussing Stanford's team and/or their results with any of you guys. But, 1) Stanford fans don't need to react to every single comment against Stanford. Like... there's no point in some posters arguing whether Stanford shuffled the lineup or not. They did. The lineup against Baylor is posted on the web. Their lineup every week before that was "normal". In yesterday's match against USC, Stanford used their "normal" lineup. A better discussion would be to argue if Stanford made a legitimate lineup change against Baylor. Did Thacher or Hirshman play bad in the previous dual match that would merit them being demoted? Did Thacher or Hirshman have an injury or sickness during practice that week that would merit Clayton and Kandath to play above them? It's hard to know as fans if a lineup change is legitimate because we don't know what happens in the daily lives of these players. That's why we ask questions and discuss the facts and the results. Nothing in the previous weeks suggested the lineup change. Clayton and Kandath haven't played well at no. 3 and no. 6, respectively. If anything, Thacher and Hirshman are the usual point earners for the Stanford team at no. 2 and no. 5. In fact, during the Baylor match, only Thacher and Hirshman won their matches playing at a lower position. Thats why, to me and to others, it appeared that Stanford was trying to stack in this match.

2) Most threads in this forum are made with a Stanford POV and are discussed in a Stanford POV. Last year's ITA indoor thread, Last year's NCAA thread, this year's Indoor thread, the next NCAA thread (hasn't been made yet), they all pretty much start out as a 'how is stanford doing' thread, then after that, we start talking about teams that actually make it past the rd of 16. Actually, even in the later rounds, somehow we still end up talking about Stanford and 'how Stanford is going to regroup in the next tournament'. If people started treating Stanford like a seed 9-16 team like they are, and not a 1-4 team like they were more than a decade ago, then we won't get into these, as others have called it, "pointless" arguments.

Impossible given the ever present fedace
 
Umm... I have no problem discussing Stanford's team and/or their results with any of you guys. But, 1) Stanford fans don't need to react to every single comment against Stanford. Like... there's no point in some posters arguing whether Stanford shuffled the lineup or not. They did. The lineup against Baylor is posted on the web. Their lineup every week before that was "normal". In yesterday's match against USC, Stanford used their "normal" lineup. A better discussion would be to argue if Stanford made a legitimate lineup change against Baylor. Did Thacher or Hirshman play bad in the previous dual match that would merit them being demoted? Did Thacher or Hirshman have an injury or sickness during practice that week that would merit Clayton and Kandath to play above them? It's hard to know as fans if a lineup change is legitimate because we don't know what happens in the daily lives of these players. That's why we ask questions and discuss the facts and the results. Nothing in the previous weeks suggested the lineup change. Clayton and Kandath haven't played well at no. 3 and no. 6, respectively. If anything, Thacher and Hirshman are the usual point earners for the Stanford team at no. 2 and no. 5. In fact, during the Baylor match, only Thacher and Hirshman won their matches playing at a lower position. Thats why, to me and to others, it appeared that Stanford was trying to stack in this match.

2) Most threads in this forum are made with a Stanford POV and are discussed in a Stanford POV. Last year's ITA indoor thread, Last year's NCAA thread, this year's Indoor thread, the next NCAA thread (hasn't been made yet), they all pretty much start out as a 'how is stanford doing' thread, then after that, we start talking about teams that actually make it past the rd of 16. Actually, even in the later rounds, somehow we still end up talking about Stanford and 'how Stanford is going to regroup in the next tournament'. If people started treating Stanford like a seed 9-16 team like they are, and not a 1-4 team like they were more than a decade ago, then we won't get into these, as others have called it, "pointless" arguments.

this is the best post i've read in this area for awhile.
 
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