Stan's searing attack on president Novak
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Tshooter
G.O.A.T.
tennisaddict
Bionic Poster
Any word on apology from Novak for siding with a fetus killer ??
NastyWinners
Hall of Fame
Christ, he didn’t even name Novak and the NOLEFAM are out with pitch forks.
Definitely rings true that fan is short for fanatic
Definitely rings true that fan is short for fanatic
airchallenge2
Hall of Fame
How long ago was Nole elected president? And when are the next elections? Stan should do all these when the time is right and find out how many players support his views. As a Nole fan I wish he quit the position and focus on that 2nd Djokovic slam.
Luka888
Professional
lol. Moral man. Here we go again. A guy leaves his wife for with a daughter for a 17 yo girl and we talk about morality. Sure. Go StanTheMoralMan. Just shut up. This is hilarious. Talk to Federer. He might help you out.
Enceladus
Legend
It easy to criticize. But doing something, actively promoting thing, is more challenging. Fed, Bull and Stan were in the ATP council in the past, they left. If they don't like the current ATP council headed by Djoker, let them return into the ATP council in next election and change her.
Bartelby
Bionic Poster
It is not easy to criticise. It requires courage usually to take a public stance. Djokovic on the other hand can operate in the background until his alliance with Gimmelstob blew up in his face.
tennisaddict
Bionic Poster
This is a regrettable period in our sport . The lack of responses from people involved in the game ... was alarming. This is a situation where silence amounts to complicity." Wawrinka.
The fault lies not in the structure, but in the calibre of people within it .
Stan cannot summarize it any better.
The fault lies not in the structure, but in the calibre of people within it .
Stan cannot summarize it any better.
OldschoolKIaus
Hall of Fame
Instead of discussing the subject itself Djoko's TTW army goes full "Mimimimi" on Wawi.
D
Deleted member 21996
Guest
So the guy who left his wife and 1 year old child to pork a girl 11 years his junior has strong feeling about morality...
Deon Sanders
Legend
I dont give a single F about their morals
Play good tennis. Allow for good tennis to be played. Thats your job.
If Gimelstob beats up a guy he beats up a guy. He got his punishment for that. I dont give a rats ass about it.
Play good tennis. Allow for good tennis to be played. Thats your job.
If Gimelstob beats up a guy he beats up a guy. He got his punishment for that. I dont give a rats ass about it.
Russeljones
Talk Tennis Guru
Got to laugh at all the feigned distaste regarding Stan's marital split. These bozos miss the simple fact that, in his choice, Stan represented no one but himself. Wrong or right, and Stan has as much as said he's made mistakes, he's done this for himself. Djokovic, on the other hand, is in a very different position. Especially with Nadal and Federer both claiming he refused to discuss.
Had to have it his way at any cost. Time to own up now.
Had to have it his way at any cost. Time to own up now.
Bukmeikara
Legend
You dont know the whole story and you shouldnt speak about it. If someone doesnt want to live with someone, no mather father,mother or wife for 10 years, he has the right to leave them. Its incredible hypocrite to live with someone just because it would be "right" for other people looking at your life. Stan is a real human, he knows he is not perfect and he live his life as he wants to.
STAN, if you reading this, keep being yourself man ... **** those who think otherwise.
Bukmeikara
Legend
So you want him to live with someone who he doesnt like just because it would feel right?
Bukmeikara
Legend
Well said.
D
Deleted member 21996
Guest
I will speak of what I feel like in the manner I so wish. You can keep your adulterer excuse bull turd for yourself, thank you
jm1980
Talk Tennis Guru
Honestly finding it hilarious that suddenly everyone cares about the morality of people in the ATP governing structure.
What Gimelstob did had been known for months and it wasn't a big deal then. But now that it can be used to attack Djokovic, it's completely disgraceful
LOL
What Gimelstob did had been known for months and it wasn't a big deal then. But now that it can be used to attack Djokovic, it's completely disgraceful
LOL
tennisaddict
Bionic Poster
The court papers and court verdict came out last week. Till then JG was just an accused.
So, any rational person would not want to jump the gun.
What is the difficult part to grasp here ?
jm1980
Talk Tennis Guru
He took a plea deal, which means he was technically not even convicted of the offense he was originally charged with.
When you take a plea deal, there is no actual trial or verdict
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Rosstour
G.O.A.T.
Nah it's a huge deal. Novak got Kermode booted, then got the ATP Finals moved to backwoods Turin, from London.
jm1980
Talk Tennis Guru
LOL, don't even know if this is sarcastic, but this isn't a huge deal at all
There were those who felt Kermode wasn't doing a good enough job and he was voted out. Djokovic's vote was one of many. What's wrong with Turin anyway?
RF-18
Talk Tennis Guru
I have nothing to add. I stand by what I Said.
tennisaddict
Bionic Poster
The judge categorically stated 'I will treat the no contest plea same as GUILTY. Do you understand that ?' . JG : 'Yes, Sir'
jm1980
Talk Tennis Guru
It does not change the fact that a verdict can only be rendered if there is a trial
Or the more salient fact that if this incident couldn't have been weaponized to use against Djokovic, it would have been quickly swept under the rug.
Yet here we are.
Russeljones
Talk Tennis Guru
What a joke.
tennisaddict
Bionic Poster
Are you saying Djokovic was not a key figure to support JG and oust Kermode ?
So when the judge says “I will find you guilty” that is not a verdict? What is it then?
Russeljones
Talk Tennis Guru
Are you for real? Stan is giving us a credible look at the divide within the ATP ranks. This divide was hinted at, but seems very real now. Guess how this links with Djokovic..
randomtoss
Semi-Pro
He pleaded no contest, which means he didn't contest the accusations. Maybe you think it equates TOTAL AND COMPLETE EXONERATION.
jm1980
Talk Tennis Guru
And that is the only reason why this story has any kind of traction. Be honest here, if Djokovic didn't support JG, how many of the people who are here pretending to be outraged would have done it?
tennisaddict
Bionic Poster
They are 2 big issues
1. JG , being a fetus killer and assaulter
2. Djokovic, being silent , enabler and advocate of JG
The second issue is reflective of his character. The first issue impacts JG's credibility for the most part. The second issue has a consequence as well for the sport . Djokovic is a much larger figure, No 1 in the sport, ATG - him being an enabler here and his involvement with JG is outrageous to say the least
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Any decent human being who thinks someone beating the hell out of a guy in front of his family and treating women as sex objects is not the man to lead ATP. So I guess that puts you out of the picture, which is quite sad, although not unexpected.
jm1980
Talk Tennis Guru
I am not a lawyer, but the way I understand the plea deal is that it allows you to plea guilty (or no contest) to a lesser offense. In the end, he was convicted of a misdemeanor instead of a felony, with no actual trial.
D
Deleted member 21996
Guest
Not here to please your derriere honey
jm1980
Talk Tennis Guru
Where did I even imply that I support JG?!
Tennis_Hands
Banned
jm1980
Talk Tennis Guru
How can Djokovic simultaneously be silent and an advocate?
tennisaddict
Bionic Poster
He is silent after the verdict.
He was an enabler and advocate because he supported JG and instrumental in ousting Kermode
jm1980
Talk Tennis Guru
Hey, sometimes you misjudge people's characters. It happens. Djokovic being silent now is at least better than him coming out in JG's support. Who knows, he might have realized he made a mistake with Gimelstob.
And ousting Kermode is a bad because...?
Rosstour
G.O.A.T.
Things like this are never so cut-and-dried. This was clearly a coup against a good leader, engineered by a player flexing his newfound muscle behind the scenes to achieve personal objectives and settle personal scores.
tennisaddict
Bionic Poster
It was incumbent upon him and would have increased his appeal if he had admitted he made a mistake about Gimelstob
jm1980
Talk Tennis Guru
Yes, clearly. Please tell me more about the machinations behind the scenes to which you are privy.
jm1980
Talk Tennis Guru
It would have been easy for Djokovic to use Gimelstob as a scapegoat and throw him under the bus to score some cheap PR points
Or maybe there is some part of him who still believes Gimelstob is innocent? Who knows?
There is nothing wrong with Djokovic being silent now
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