Discussion in 'Pros' Racquets and Gear' started by Equijet, Jan 23, 2009.
For almost two decades, tennis enthusiasts have been questioning about what Stefan Edberg actually used during the early 90's. Apparently he really used the Pro Staff Original 85 in Pro Staff Classic paintjob what is noticeable on many vintage photos of sports magazines but that is not the absolute correct answer. He had briefly used the Pro Staff Classic 85 indeed. The attached pictures shows the Pro Staff Classic 85 is in the same geometry as 95 sq in. version (oval cross-section) but smaller head sized.
Great collection you have! How did you get all of those frames?
How many Pro Staff Classic 6.1 85s do you own? How does it play?
I want want one!!! :twisted:
I also want all the other 85sqins Wilson didn't release to the public (Graf, Hlasek, ...) !!
Very interesting! Like most everybody around here, I thought Edberg used the Japanese version of the PS original with Classic PJ. So there was a Classic 85 never generally released.
I'd be happy with a Pro Staff Classic 6.1 85...I can only imagine how it hits...
I have two Pro Staff Original 85 with Classic paint job without bumper guards, three with bumper guards, three Pro Staff Classic 85, one Pro staff Classic 6.1 and two Pro Staff Classic 6.0.
The Pro Staff Classic 85 is a very maneuverable racket due to its head is very light weight and thanks for the oval cross section contributes the good aerodynamic condition but those are also the disadvantage conditions what compares with the legendary PS Original on the sensational feels from the ball impacts.
Absolutely brilliant! Thanks so much Equijet for posting. We've learned so much from your extensive knowledge of rackets. So Edberg eventually went back to the Pro Staff 6.0 85 paintjob?
Does anyone know WHY Wilson didn't release all those wonderful 85-sq.in.s from Edberg, Graf, Mandlikova, Hlasek, ...???
(At least not in Europe)
Excellent photos, many thanks for sharing Equijet
In early 90's, the midplus and oversize (95-110sq in.) were the mainstream of the modern rackets' head sizes for the marketing strategy of Wilson. But by that time, most of the top pros grew up with their favorable midsized rackets, such as Chris Evert, Stefan Edberg, Hana Mandlikova, Jakob Hlasek along with those young stars such as Pete Sampras, Jim Courier, Richard Krajicek, etc..... Therefore Wilson had produced exclusive midsized models to those top pros for endorsing their larger head frames. It should be very cost inefficient for pleasing the small target group to gain slim profits or even deficiency by marketing midsized rackets what Wilson believed. So, since 1993 they didn't have new midsized models until 2003 when the PS tour 90 was released to the market. I think that the 90 sq in. head sized rackets might be obsolete on the Wilson's racket list when Roger Federer retired.
i don't remember who i asked...maybe jared palmer...but it was a the u.s. open like 15 years ago...it was when the pro tour 280 came out....i asked him how the pt280 was and he loved it and then i asked him if edberg really used a pro staff classic and he told me no, it was a paintjob of his old racquet..
I was a huge Edberg fan and never even noticed this. I thought he used a Prostaff 6.0 with a 6.0 paintjob.
I got one few days ago, bought by e bay in Japan.
PS original 85 with classic pj.
Weight 332 gr unstung, 346 full.
Wow great pics. You never seem to dissapoint >_>
Please provide us with a full review of how it plays. I'm dying to know.
He played a racket this light???
Edberg's personal PS Original with Classic paint job racket is 360g (unstrung) and 8pts head light.
The one what Love15 have bought from Japan should be the public version, it's not the same specs as Edberg actually used.
I'm also looking forward for the feedback of how that public verson plays by Love15.
I also purchased the Japan version a year back or so but I didn't string it up, just for collection.
It is not like a St. Vincent that Edberg used to play with, for one it has the bumper guard, and a black buttcap.
85 SQ, really great paintjob, my guess is that it plays like a standard Taiwan 6.0 Original. Not that unique St. Vincent feel prolly.
Here are some pics of my Japan version...
great PJ and as you can see, it still has the plastic wrapped around the handle, hehehe.
The paint is so cool and unique I don't dare to take it out on court...
I have one of those Pro Staff 6.0 with the PS Classic paint job. In terms of feel, the racquet is very comparable to the original pro staff. However, due to its slightly lighter weight, it is more maneuverable. Obviously, as all of you PS original enthusiasts know, there is no other sweetspot in tennis that feels "sweeter" than this racquet. Well, it is my personal opinion, but I think that this PS Classic paint job version would appeal to many of you who love the feel of the original PS but can't quite handle the weight.
Also, I love the paintjob.
If you hit the (tiny) sweetspot, the good ole 6.0 Original has got to be the sweetest racquet ever for sure.
One thing I wanted to add is that the Classic pictured above was marketed for Japan but actually made in China, like a standard 6.0 Original.
And yes, the paintjob is simply beautiful.
Equijet also has a bunch of Fed racquets from a couple of yrs ago...
Where does he get all that rare stuff?
A pro stringer...?
Equijet, how could I get in touch with you? If possible, could you drop me an e-mail to firstname.lastname@example.org
Thank you in advance, Andrei
I have dropped an email to you!
Equijet,would it kill u to ship one to Malaysia?
So I take it you prefer the PS Original then? Would you be willing to sell off the PS Classic 85? Can you e-mail me at jayserinos99 at yahoo dot com if you are?
I was about to say the same! THANKS Equijet
Great sets of pics. Thanks for posting.
Great collection, 11 racquet, one for each player in football team (I know.........US-soccer).
Really nice racquets, I only manage to get one so far.
i have pics of his PJ .. !post them when i get home tomorrow. it has sharp edges on it not the round ones .
Thanks again Equijet for your pics...
I remember having this discussion with a friend back in the early 90's on Edberg's racket. He had both the Pro Staff Classic as well as the PS Original. After looking at various photos in magazines back then, we were convinced that it was indeed an Original with the Classic PJ... Thinking back, it was my first exposure to "PJ" player-edition rackets...
I just have a chance to acquire a few Edberg racquets.. Equijet, in your Edberg collection do you have any of those that have a St. Vincent paint job as Ps classic 85??I am wondering about it.. I have one actually play by Edberg and paint job as PS Classic but the butt cap was a St. Vincent.. I also have one with the Butt Cap as Taiwanese .. they have almost identical specs.. weight and setup....
What was the string pattern of edbergs rackets?
^ 16x18, he used the Pro Staff mid....
^^ let me rephrase
What string pattern is that 95, is it the euro version?
The euro version is 18x20 string pattern and some of those says "Tour edition" on the frame.
A buddy of mine has one of Edbergs frames.. he got it a the the Aussie Open one year from Stefan. I maybe can post a few pictures if you guys are interested.
it plays nice !
better say, SHE is nice !
Smooth, well balanced, obviously she has not a big sweet pot, but when u got it, that's sound great !
Very solid, you can hit a coin from a backside corner, back sliding nice, on the forehand is better hit straight, with no top spin, and the ball will fly fast and accurate.
Love it, but after one hour quite tired.
She is like a nice demanding babes, u can make love, but take care !
Definitely, the more (pics) the merrier!
So there isn't a difference between the Tour and the euro 18x20 version right?
I was (and still am) a huge Edberg fan, but I never knew about the PJ thing until 6 or 7 years ago when I got back into tennis and read the "classic" TW forums. I even bought a PSC 6.1 95 as my first "true" frame and emulated my game around Edberg.
Awesome collection Equijet! Any chance of selling any off, email me kidkreative AT yahoo DOT com? =)
Sorry for my poor explanation, actually some of the Euro version 18x20 string pattern PS 6.1 says "Tour Edition" but some don't say. Basically they are the same model.
Equijet, could you please advise if I could get in touch with you via e-mail?
Thank you very much in advance,
Hi Andrei, I have sent an email to you.
I live in Italy.I have 3 wilson pro staff classic 95 18x20 pattern "tour edition"
now I'd really like to buy one of these pro staff 85 classic paintjob.is there anyone that would like to sell one? 4 3/8 maybe?
Equijet are you willing to part with one?
mattitheiceman AT gmail DOT com
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