Stefanos Tsitsipas blames new balls on ATP Tour for his injury

vokazu

Hall of Fame
Stefanos Tsitsipas is blaming the ATP Tour ball changes for the shoulder injury he sustained at the start of the 2023 season. At the Australian Open, Tsitsipas reached the final but also contracted a shoulder injury. In late February, Daniil Medvedev was also critical of the new balls used on the ATP Tour and he suggested that they were to blame for the wrist pain he experienced in Australia.

“I think the biggest issue this year was the change in balls and that was an issue that has been discussed among the players. Balls need to stay the same in most tournaments and especially on hard surfaces. This benefits us all and protects players from injury.

I have had comments from other players about the balls at the beginning of the year and that they had a significant impact on the shoulders, wrists, and arm in general. I think that’s where my injury comes from," Tsitsipas said, per SDNA.



Tsitsipas hopes to be pain-free in Miami​


In late February, Tsitsipas withdrew from Acapulco. At the Indian Wells Masters, Tsitsipas returned to action. But it didn't go well for Tsitsipas as he was clearly in certain discomfort and he suffered a surprise defeat in his opener against Jordan Thompson.


Now, Tsitsipas is hoping to at least be pain-free in Miami. “I hope to play (in Miami) without pain and be able to get on the court and show something different than what I did in Indian Wells. It was a tournament where I suffered a lot, it was not easy to be on the court and somehow I was forced to do it.

Actually, I didn’t want to do it. There are certain ATP rules that force you to play these big events and I’m not a player who likes to retire or give up after a few games. Hopefully I can get on the court here and enjoy it a little more, have a little fun and not think too much about my hand.

Fortunately, I feel better now," Tsitsipas said. In Miami, Tsitsipas is the second-seeded player and has a first-round bye. In his Miami opener, Tsitsipas will play the winner of the match between Christopher O'Connell and Richard Gasquet.
 

Nostradamus

Bionic Poster
what kind of balls are they using ?? Dunlop ? because wilson balls traditionally hasn't caused any problems at all
 

Robert F

Hall of Fame
AO used to be a Wilson ball but switched to Dunlop a few years ago, 2019 when I googled.

Vaguely remembering the Wilson AO ball vs. Dunlop AO, maybe Dunlops seemed a little heavier. But not stiffer.
I guess players were complaining they fluffed up easier, lost pop and spinability. Would this mean you had to do more work to get spin off of it--having to expend more effort and maybe more flick/joint strain to do so?

If the ball is heavier, are these guys starting to have issues for playing with lower swingweight racquets then the older gens?
I believe the current guys still use heavier racquets than the gen pop, but I believe lower than older gens and most likely the big 3.
 

WYK

Hall of Fame
So.... everyone at the same tournament is playing with the same balls, right?

How come we aren't hearing all of the other players with dead arms?
Loads of players have been complaining since the start of the year in Australia. Where have you been? Maybe do a google search?

19 Jan 2023 — Rafael Nadal, Novak Djokovic and Felix Auger-Aliassime are among the players who have complained about the balls used at Melbourne Park
Rafael Nadal

“After a couple of hits, the ball lose the pressure. It’s more difficult to hit with the right spin. But I think it’s easier to play when you play flatter on the shots.

“They say [it] is the same, but the ball is worse quality, without a doubt. I think it’s a ball that doesn’t get the same spin as usual. After a couple of hits, the ball loses the pressure. It’s more difficult to hit with the right spin.”

“I think it is easier to play when you play flatter on the shots. But I need to live with it. I think I have practised enough with the ball to be ready for it.”




Felix Auger-Aliassime

“I don’t want to complain about it, but the balls are not bouncing,” Auger-Aliassime said.



“It’s crazy. I mean, we’re hitting normal but I don’t know. I don’t know if it’s the batch of cans [that the balls are in], they’re terrible.”


Novak Djokovic
 
Loads of players have been complaining since the start of the year in Australia. Where have you been? Maybe do a google search?

19 Jan 2023 — Rafael Nadal, Novak Djokovic and Felix Auger-Aliassime are among the players who have complained about the balls used at Melbourne Park
Rafael Nadal

“After a couple of hits, the ball lose the pressure. It’s more difficult to hit with the right spin. But I think it’s easier to play when you play flatter on the shots.

“They say [it] is the same, but the ball is worse quality, without a doubt. I think it’s a ball that doesn’t get the same spin as usual. After a couple of hits, the ball loses the pressure. It’s more difficult to hit with the right spin.”

“I think it is easier to play when you play flatter on the shots. But I need to live with it. I think I have practised enough with the ball to be ready for it.”




Felix Auger-Aliassime

“I don’t want to complain about it, but the balls are not bouncing,” Auger-Aliassime said.



“It’s crazy. I mean, we’re hitting normal but I don’t know. I don’t know if it’s the batch of cans [that the balls are in], they’re terrible.”


Novak Djokovic

Oh I've been away from GPPD so I'm not in touch with dumb and insignificant stories like these.
 

TearTheRoofOff

G.O.A.T.
Loads of players have been complaining since the start of the year in Australia. Where have you been? Maybe do a google search?

19 Jan 2023 — Rafael Nadal, Novak Djokovic and Felix Auger-Aliassime are among the players who have complained about the balls used at Melbourne Park
Rafael Nadal

“After a couple of hits, the ball lose the pressure. It’s more difficult to hit with the right spin. But I think it’s easier to play when you play flatter on the shots.

“They say [it] is the same, but the ball is worse quality, without a doubt. I think it’s a ball that doesn’t get the same spin as usual. After a couple of hits, the ball loses the pressure. It’s more difficult to hit with the right spin.”

“I think it is easier to play when you play flatter on the shots. But I need to live with it. I think I have practised enough with the ball to be ready for it.”




Felix Auger-Aliassime

“I don’t want to complain about it, but the balls are not bouncing,” Auger-Aliassime said.


“It’s crazy. I mean, we’re hitting normal but I don’t know. I don’t know if it’s the batch of cans [that the balls are in], they’re terrible.”


Novak Djokovic
To be fair, these are complaints about the shot results, not physical discomfort.
 

Silverbullet96

Hall of Fame
So.... everyone at the same tournament is playing with the same balls, right?

How come we aren't hearing all of the other players with dead arms?
Will you only accept complaints if the entire ATP goes down with arm injuries ?
Stefanos and Daniil blamed the balls for injuries/pain, and said they had talked with other players also who seem to have arm problems with the new balls. I feel like that's enough people that the ATP can consider looking into this problem.
 

Ray Mercer

Hall of Fame
They should go back to the balls that were played at the French in 2011. You want a nice light ball that doesn’t fluff up that zips through the court.
 

innoVAShaun

Legend
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Guru Apu

Rookie
They i think are dunlop atp balls, it say so on the ball.

These balls are very bad. I am very good player and play with balls very hard and give them good spank but they do not bounce much at all. In the end it hurt even!

If i have problems with them i have no wonder atp player have problems with them.
 

socallefty

G.O.A.T.
I just did some googling and found out that all the European clay tournaments before the FO switched to Dunlop ATP balls in 2020 which are similar to the Dunlop AO balls in terms of being heavy and fluffing up too soon. In addition, Roland Garros switched from lighter Babolat balls to Wilson Roland Garros balls in 2020 that players complained were heavier and lower bouncing. So, the ball brand change to heavier balls at least through the first half of the year from Australia to Paris might be why Gasquet is complaining and it may not be a COVID-related manufacturing change.

As far as I know the Penn Tour balls used in US hard court tournaments and Wilson USO balls used at the USO are not being complained about by other players. The Fall indoor tournaments also use Dunlop balls although I don’t know when they changed to them.

 

Rosstour

G.O.A.T.
Will you only accept complaints if the entire ATP goes down with arm injuries ?
Stefanos and Daniil blamed the balls for injuries/pain, and said they had talked with other players also who seem to have arm problems with the new balls. I feel like that's enough people that the ATP can consider looking into this problem.

Not to mention Korda
 

Crocodile

G.O.A.T.
I think he makes a valid point and the manufacturers could look into it. What you find is that each brand will either source their tennis balls from the Phillipines or Thailand and you can ge the difference. Making a more comfortable ball would be great for the pros and local players as well.
Many years ago Slazenger made a more comfortable balk which they named Ansorber.
The other thing is the consistency in ball weight. I did some testing of some different brands and did find some variations in weight.
 

kayapit

Semi-Pro
the manufacturers could look into it.
They probably already know exactly what's behind it. ATP would likely need to do some kind of formal inquiry, asking for quality control data etc. Unlikely I'm sure, and maybe a waste of time. I wonder how technical they get when making decisions on who to contract with?
 
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