Steffi Graf will play Henin in an exhibition.

Warriorroger

Hall of Fame
+++ Festival for Children: CFT-Event in Mannheim +++
On October 27, 2007 an extraordinary sports and entertainment event will take place: In the SAP-Arena, Mannheim, Steffi Graf will play a match against womens Nr.1 in tennis, Justine Henin. Entertainment will be guaranteed by comedian Otto Waalkes and other show acts. All revenues of the event will go to the foundation.


I am bit worried. Graf is my idol and IMO the best ever, but she is 38, mother of two, hasn't played tennis full time for a long time. I am not sure if it's a good idea to take on the current number one.

 
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goforgold99

Semi-Pro
I am bit worried. Graf is my idol and IMO the best ever, but she is 38, mother of two, hasn't played tennis full time for a long time. I am not sure if it's a good idea to take on the current number one.
It's an EXHIBITION!

It's just for fun dude. Same with the three exhibition matches between Sampras and Fed ;)
 

caulcano

Hall of Fame
Yeah, it's an exhibition and it's for charity. The result is quite obvious but since it's for charity: who cares!
Yep.

It'll probably be Henin in 3 tight sets. Also, it would be even funnier if Henin lost her #1 ranking before this exhibition.....
 

Warriorroger

Hall of Fame
Will be fun though to see that massive forehand and footwork in action again. I know she's slower than 10 yerars ago, but she still has the most beautiful footwork.
 

Borat72

Banned
+++ Festival for Children: CFT-Event in Mannheim +++
On October 27, 2007 an extraordinary sports and entertainment event will take place: In the SAP-Arena, Mannheim, Steffi Graf will play a match against womens Nr.1 in tennis, Justine Henin. Entertainment will be guaranteed by comedian Otto Waalkes and other show acts. All revenues of the event will go to the foundation.


I am bit worried. Graf is my idol and IMO the best ever, but she is 38, mother of two, hasn't played tennis full time for a long time. I am not sure if it's a good idea to take on the current number one. ...
Yes, she might embarrass the whole WTA ....;)
 

sureshs

Bionic Poster
i hope andre isn't warming up with steffi again.
Certainly not. Previous times they did so:

1. Stefanie (that is what she prefers to be called) had a wardrobe malfunction and had to run to the locker room
2. Andre hit her on the mouth on a follow-thru and the doctor who was playing the other side (it was a pro-am sort of) had to stitch her
 

Warriorroger

Hall of Fame
If Graf was in her prime, the match up would be something like this:

Serve:

50-50, Henin's serve is recorded as faster, but they're using a different meter than in the 90s. Graf's fastest serve was clocked at 112. Henin hits harder, Graf won more points with her first serve. I'll leave it at 50 - 50

Backhand:
Henin. No one hits a better and more lethal backhand than Henin

Forehand:
Graf. No one hits a a better and more lethal forehand than Graf.

Netgame:
Although Steffis very athletic, she doesn't have a good feel for the volley game, her instincts at the net are mediocre. Henin is good at the net. So points to Henin.

Footwork:
Graf.

Mental game: if both were equal concerning prime, Steffi would have had Justine for lunch. She and Seles never looked at their coaches when in trouble.
 

heycal

Hall of Fame
+++ Festival for Children: CFT-Event in Mannheim +++
On October 27, 2007 an extraordinary sports and entertainment event will take place: In the SAP-Arena, Mannheim, Steffi Graf will play a match against womens Nr.1 in tennis, Justine Henin. Entertainment will be guaranteed by comedian Otto Waalkes and other show acts. All revenues of the event will go to the foundation.


I am bit worried. Graf is my idol and IMO the best ever, but she is 38, mother of two, hasn't played tennis full time for a long time. I am not sure if it's a good idea to take on the current number one.
???

Which of the following best describes you, Warriorroger?

A) I am a young girl.

B) I am a gay male.

C) I am mildly ********.
 
If Graf was in her prime, the match up would be something like this:

Serve:

50-50, Henin's serve is recorded as faster, but they're using a different meter than in the 90s. Graf's fastest serve was clocked at 112. Henin hits harder, Graf won more points with her first serve. I'll leave it at 50 - 50

Backhand:
Henin. No one hits a better and more lethal backhand than Henin

Forehand:
Graf. No one hits a a better and more lethal forehand than Graf.

Netgame:
Although Steffis very athletic, she doesn't have a good feel for the volley game, her instincts at the net are mediocre. Henin is good at the net. So points to Henin.

Footwork:
Graf.

Mental game: if both were equal concerning prime, Steffi would have had Justine for lunch. She and Seles never looked at their coaches when in trouble.
Graf should definitely give Henin a run for her money, she still looks like the athlete she always was. I know Graf's forehand might not be as sharp and powerful as it used to be, but it will be interesting to see if Henin can handle it. I'd like Graf to win, but I think Henin will probably win, should be fun to watch though.
 

35ft6

Legend
It's an EXHIBITION!

It's just for fun dude. Same with the three exhibition matches between Sampras and Fed ;)
I agree. But the Sampras true believers won't. "He only won 2 games and he's barely been playing! Just think of how bad he would have destroyed him when he was practicing every day!!!!!!!!!"
 

Warriorroger

Hall of Fame
???

Which of the following best describes you, Warriorroger?

A) I am a young girl.

B) I am a gay male.

C) I am mildly ********.

35 year old masculine bi, who looks like john stamos. Don't understand your question marks though? What's wrong with the post? Wait a minute, I recall you from the Chang post. Bye, bye!
 

FedSampras

Semi-Pro
???

Which of the following best describes you, Warriorroger?

A) I am a young girl.

B) I am a gay male.

C) I am mildly ********.
Warriorroger is Günter...?

Günter Parche (b. July 4, 1954 in Hengen, Germany) was the 38-year-old unemployed German lathe operator, who on April 30, 1993 stabbed tennis player Monica Seles, then ranked No. 1 in the world, with a boning knife during a tournament in Hamburg.

Days following the attack described Parche as a loner, who was prompted to attack Seles because of an obsession with seeing the German player Steffi Graf regain the World No. 1 ranking.
 

rommil

Legend
35 year old masculine bi, who looks like john stamos. Don't understand your question marks though? What's wrong with the post? Wait a minute, I recall you from the Chang post. Bye, bye!
Condi has some sexuality ambiguity. I guess Steffi tends to attract that lol.
 

heycal

Hall of Fame
35 year old masculine bi, who looks like john stamos.
You look like Blackie?

In otherwords, "I'm gay but not quite ready to admit it yet"

(especially since you had to qualify your bi-ness with masculine lol. how you doing girl?)
;)

Condi has some sexuality ambiguity. I guess Steffi tends to attract that lol.
Are you guys suggesting that Warriorroger is Condoleeza? I'm not a Condi-ologist, but I remembern our beloved Condi as seeming a little more sophisticated than this fellow...:confused: :confused:
 

anointedone

Banned
I dont know what is so hard to believe of someone being bisexual. There are alot of bisexual people in the World, it does not mean they are gay but hesitant about coming fully out. I am strictly a gay male, and I never once thought about pretending to be "bisexual".

As for John Stamos he used to be an actor on "Full House". He played the uncle of the kids, he was called "Uncle Jessie". He has alot of other acting gigs, but that is still what he is most famous for to most people.
 

superstition

Hall of Fame
There is a difference between sexual orientation and sexual behavior. Sexual orientation is a person's innate preference for one sex or the other. Sexual behavior does not determine a person's sexual orientation, although it normally is strongly influenced by it. Many gay men have heterosexual sexual relationships due to social pressures, and heterosexual men can have homosexual sex due to environmental conditions (such as the money offered by starring in gay porn).

A recent study found that college men who identify as bisexual are not aroused by women, and another study found that strongly homophobic men (guys who condemn gays in public and/or have a strongly negative emotional response to homosexuality) are aroused by men. This doesn't mean all heterosexist or homophobic men are gay, but it is a case of "the lady doth protest too much, methinks".

Gay people do not necessarily demonstrate a higher level of effeminancy or masculinity than their heterosexual counterparts. Some gay people may feel less of a need to conform to an artificially rigid gender role (the masculine role is particularly rigid in western culture) due to their status as a misunderstood and even vilified group. There is a range of masculinity and femininity among gay people just as there is one among hetero people. Calling a gay man a "girl" is inaccurate, even if the gay man is considerably more effeminate than the average man. No matter how a man behaves, a man's behavior is male behavior, not female behavior. And, it is often extremely difficult for gay men to meet other gay men in general society because it's not obvious that all gay men behave differently than heterosexual men. A man who feels like a woman trapped in a man's body is a transsexual, not a gay man. I don't feel like a woman at all, because it's quite obvious that I'm not a woman.
 

swisser

Banned
I dont know what is so hard to believe of someone being bisexual. There are alot of bisexual people in the World, it does not mean they are gay but hesitant about coming fully out. I am strictly a gay male, and I never once thought about pretending to be "bisexual".

As for John Stamos he used to be an actor on "Full House". He played the uncle of the kids, he was called "Uncle Jessie". He has alot of other acting gigs, but that is still what he is most famous for to most people.
dont mean to offend. is it me or are the anymore bi/gay(men) people on here? for me thats is GROSS(mainly because im christian) plus people are already callin tennis a gay sport. plain as simple u all r not good for our sport.
and i dont like gay or bi people. just my opinion!
 

anointedone

Banned
dont mean to offend. is it me or are the anymore bi/gay(men) people on here? for me thats is GROSS(mainly because im christian) plus people are already callin tennis a gay sport. plain as simple u all r not good for our sport.
and i dont like gay or bi people. just my opinion!
If you really want to find out, why dont you start a poll in the "odds and ends" or "rant and rave" section. Probably best to make it an anonymous poll though, as alot of people wouldnt vote otherwise.
 

superstition

Hall of Fame
is it me or are the anymore bi/gay(men) people on here? for me thats is GROSS(mainly because im christian) plus people are already callin tennis a gay sport. plain as simple u all r not good for our sport.
and i dont like gay or bi people. just my opinion!
What's gross is idiotic bigotry, particularly when it tries to cloak itself in false piety.
 

superstition

Hall of Fame
hmmm.. superstition, do you come on this forum and the first thing you do everyday is:

"Advanced Search >> Search by Keyword: "Gay" >> Search in Forums: Search ALL Open Forums, Also Search in Child Forums >> Search Now"
No, I've never done that, but you have. Anything else?
 

anointedone

Banned
I think Henin will purposely play down a bit in this exhibition to make it close. That is not a slight on Graf, just that she is a 38 year old women who does not play serious tennis anymore, so obviously Henin could destroy her if she chose to.
 

swisser

Banned
What's gross is idiotic bigotry, particularly when it tries to cloak itself in false piety.
what ever u said i didnt understand mainly because im 12. and dont say some cheesy joke like pebrain. and yes im old enough to be on here. and if ur trying to that im gay/bi ur crazy cause im a christian and i dont believe in that. i dont care of ur geeky theory. :smile:
 

superstition

Hall of Fame
what ever u said i didnt understand mainly because im 12. and dont say some cheesy joke like pebrain. and yes im old enough to be on here. and if ur trying to that im gay/bi ur crazy cause im a christian and i dont believe in that. i dont care of ur geeky theory. :smile:
Since you're 12, you should realize that you're in school for a reason: to learn. You need to learn because you're young and lack a large amount of knowledge about the world. You clearly don't know much, if anything, about sexual orientation. So, keep your condemnations/judgements for a later date when you actually have some basis for them. There's nothing more unnecessary than an uneducated opinion.

If you do want to learn something, you can read this:
http://www.apa.org/topics/orientation.html
 

swisser

Banned
Since you're 12, you should realize that you're in school for a reason: to learn. You need to learn because you're young and lack a large amount of knowledge about the world. You clearly don't know much, if anything, about sexual orientation. So, keep your condemnations/judgements for a later date when you actually have some basis for them. There's nothing more unnecessary than an uneducated opinion.

If you do want to learn something, you can read this:
http://www.apa.org/topics/orientation.html
i might be 12 but im old enough to know that its bad for my religion. i know what sexual orention is so dont need the lecture,and if ur gay which u probaly are because how obsessed u r whith topic. so i know in the moden day we learn more about society than old school.;)
 

Warriorroger

Hall of Fame
I dont know what is so hard to believe of someone being bisexual. There are alot of bisexual people in the World, it does not mean they are gay but hesitant about coming fully out. I am strictly a gay male, and I never once thought about pretending to be "bisexual".

As for John Stamos he used to be an actor on "Full House". He played the uncle of the kids, he was called "Uncle Jessie". He has alot of other acting gigs, but that is still what he is most famous for to most people.
It's no use explaining anointedone, but thanks for trying. I don't care what they think. Bi is bi, nothing to do with not fully coming out. I am attracted to both women and men. Thank God I live in the Netherlands.
 
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