You are absolutely right. My original contention was based two measures, excluding the w/l percentage. It occurred to me later, to check those. Good thing to add new angles to the picture to get a complete perspective. Indeed the w/l record standing alone, can play mischief with reality, as can using just majors, or just total titles. We now have a three legged stool. Of course Martina deserves a ton of credit... for those three wins out of 11 over the course of 15 years, the greatest disparity in those numbers on any surface they played on. She had a fantastic clay court season in 1984. If s/vers have trouble winning consistently a lot more often than they loose, they are free to change their game. or ignore the problem. It wasn't one for Margaret Court though. It's very likely her career, from 1959-1977 w/l percentage record exceeds even Evert or Graf! There is nothing left to rest your case on. Martina doesn't have enough majors. she doesn't have enough titles, she undoubtedly have the worst w/l percentage of any of the 7 women who are GOAT candidates on clay. And the lowest w/l percentage on any single surface, of those in the professional era. Her record on clay, just does not stand up to the standards of the highest pinnacle in women's tennis. You decide if its a big deal to you, compared to her accomplishments.