Stiff but arm-friendly racquet mid size?

Smasher08

Legend
Is there an order of which string material absorbs vibrations the most?

1. Natural Gut
2. ?
3. ?
4. ?
5. ?

Generally speaking I believe it's:

1. Gut
2. Multi
3. Syngut
4. Poly
5. Kevlar

There's a huge distance between 3-4, and a big but not huge difference between 1-2 and 2-3.
 

PaulC

Professional
I looked in my box of strings and I have Head Ultra Tour 17 co-poly and Gamma Poly-Z 16 that I could use a main for a test.

For the crosses, the softest that I have is Golden Set syn gut 16, which is slightly softer than PSGD.

Those are great strings, try Head Ultra Tour 17, PSGD is probably not a good cross choice for you at this point.
 

PaulC

Professional
I think I got it wrong on the poly tension. If poly is to be strung at 10-15% less than syn gut AND I'm going for lower tension = less vibes increased sweetspot, then the poly would need to go down to about 40-45lbs.


Yep! The lower the better.

Many hyrid users (poly main) are in this range anyway, as long as it's not too powerful/trampoline-ish for you.
 
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BreakPoint

Bionic Poster
Actually, this is something that I ponder: Does hitting a forehand with a semi-western grip and heavy heavy heavy topspin add tension to the elbow and the supporting muscles?
IMO, that's nowhere as bad for the elbow as hitting the ball flat with an eastern grip like I do. When you hit flat, you're feeling the full force of the ball impacting your stringbed head-on. It's like the difference between a head-on collision and a side swipe. Which is going to cause more severe damage to your car and yourself?
 

PaulC

Professional
Just got back from 1 hour of hitting.

I started using my Head i.Extreme 102 with PSGD 61lbs for about 20 minutes. No elbow issues noted.

I then switched to my POG at 58/56lbs with PSGD and I could not believe the amount of vibration I was getting in my arm. It was worse when I switched to a semi-western grip and started spinning the ball. I played with it for about 5 minutes and switched back to the Head.

2 coats of Plastidip tonite and we'll see tomorrow.

This means even 58/56 lbs is still too high for you at this point.

Meaning: you should forget using full-bed syn in your POG mid, since any lower tension will render the string movement issue worse.

Should try 40-45lbs hyrids + rubber band / vibration absorber

ex http://www.tennis-warehouse.com/Babolat_Custom_Damp_II_Red_Blue/descpageBAB-BCD2RB.html
 
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PaulC

Professional
Curious , any opinions on the Prince Ignite 95?

Pretty good stiff frame. Pretty similar to Pure Storm Tour or Prestige Pro but may be closer to Prestige S for the thicker beam at 22mm.

But he'll have to dig them on the Bay nowadays :)
 

Xfimpg

Professional
I tried the Prestige S again but way too light.
As my 15 years of not playing were showing in June, my popeye (!) forearm is coming back. lol
With the Prestige S I had to overhit every shot to get the ball deep.

Okay, so the search goes on regardless of if I Plastidip the POG or not, cause you never know...

The Prince Ignite 95 looks interesting. TW's reviews have it as a leadweight. Has anyone played with it or can compare to the POG?
 

Xfimpg

Professional
Update on the POG modification:

Last night I added two coats of Plastidip.

This morning I replaced the grommets/bumper and restrung with PSGD at 61/59 - not too stiff but stiff enough and trying to change only one thing at a time.

The two coats did change the swingweight, so added lead tape under the grip. Nothing precise for now, just want to see the vibration factor later today.
As a quick test at home, the vibrations off-center are noticeably less.

I have to say that the texture of Plastidip is rubbery and well not fabulous to the touch. lol
 

BLX_Andy

Professional
You're mentioning the ProStaff 95 when you're referring to Dimitrov. Try using the Six.One 95 (red/white colorway). It's a bit stiffer and heftier.
 

Xfimpg

Professional
Update on the POG modification:

Last night I added two coats of Plastidip.

This morning I replaced the grommets/bumper and restrung with PSGD at 61/59 - not too stiff but stiff enough and trying to change only one thing at a time.

The two coats did change the swingweight, so added lead tape under the grip. Nothing precise for now, just want to see the vibration factor later today.
As a quick test at home, the vibrations off-center are noticeably less.

I have to say that the texture of Plastidip is rubbery and well not fabulous to the touch. lol

POG before mods: 360g
POG after mods: 390g

Yikes! This thing is screaming "plow-through".
 

Xfimpg

Professional
You're mentioning the ProStaff 95 when you're referring to Dimitrov. Try using the Six.One 95 (red/white colorway). It's a bit stiffer and heftier.

If I compare specs with the POG, it's actually pretty light, too light for me.

Prince Original Graphite
Head Size: 93 sq. in. / 600 sq. cm.
Length: 27 inches / 69 cm
Strung Weight: 12.1oz / 343g
Balance: 8pts Head Light
Swingweight: 328
Stiffness: 66
Beam Width: 19 mm Straight Beam

Wilson BLX Pro Staff 95
Head Size: 95 sq. in. / 612.9 sq. cm.
Length: 27in / 68.58cm
Strung Weight: 11.5oz / 326.02g
Balance: 7 pts HL
Swingweight: 306
Stiffness: 62
Beam Width: 18mm / 18mm / 18mm /
 

Shroud

G.O.A.T.
Update on the POG modification:

Last night I added two coats of Plastidip.

This morning I replaced the grommets/bumper and restrung with PSGD at 61/59 - not too stiff but stiff enough and trying to change only one thing at a time.

The two coats did change the swingweight, so added lead tape under the grip. Nothing precise for now, just want to see the vibration factor later today.
As a quick test at home, the vibrations off-center are noticeably less.

I have to say that the texture of Plastidip is rubbery and well not fabulous to the touch. lol

POG before mods: 360g
POG after mods: 390g

Yikes! This thing is screaming "plow-through".

Nice glad you added weight and let us know about the vibes. I think you will like it. Did you make it head light?

Also the plastidip as i understand it can be smooth. Mine was smooth most of the places but some were rough. From what I understand from watching some of the repair videos if you spray it closer it is smoother and if you are too far away it gets bumpy.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4T0jEvxxTzE

Anyhow you get used to it and now I dont even notice it and actually kind of like the texture.

Cant wait to know how you like it.
 

Xfimpg

Professional
Nice glad you added weight and let us know about the vibes. I think you will like it. Did you make it head light?

Also the plastidip as i understand it can be smooth. Mine was smooth most of the places but some were rough. From what I understand from watching some of the repair videos if you spray it closer it is smoother and if you are too far away it gets bumpy.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4T0jEvxxTzE

Anyhow you get used to it and now I dont even notice it and actually kind of like the texture.

Cant wait to know how you like it.

Hi Shroud
I added about 24 grams of babolat lead tape to the handle to counter the plastidip. It feels head light, compared to another model I have untouched, but definitely heavier. lol

Playing today at 4pm, will report back.
 

Xfimpg

Professional
Actually with everyone's great feedback regarding a replacement model, plan B will be to go with the Diablo Tour mid. I'll see how this works out first.
 

Shroud

G.O.A.T.
Hi Shroud
I added about 24 grams of babolat lead tape to the handle to counter the plastidip. It feels head light, compared to another model I have untouched, but definitely heavier. lol

Playing today at 4pm, will report back.

You are doing more than counterbalancing the plastidip. It barely weighs 2 grams if even, and because it is distributed it shouldnt affect balance.
 

mrDUDE1

New User
Curious , any opinions on the Prince Ignite 95?
My girlfriend has 3
I hit with it last weekend and I liked it… really heavy though. I think he swingweight is nearing 350. TW has a review of it if you search around

Hi Shroud
I added about 24 grams of babolat lead tape to the handle to counter the plastidip. It feels head light, compared to another model I have untouched, but definitely heavier. lol

Playing today at 4pm, will report back.

Ok there is no way plasti dip added 24 grams to the head of your racquet. You should take some lead off if you're looking to keep the balance at what it was or if you feel it's TOO heavy
 

Shroud

G.O.A.T.
Actually with everyone's great feedback regarding a replacement model, plan B will be to go with the Diablo Tour mid. I'll see how this works out first.

Judging by the specs at least I cant see the Diablo being much different. There is probably something I am missing, but I thought about that racket and with similar specs I went with the 14/18 pog string pattern.
 

BreakPoint

Bionic Poster
You're mentioning the ProStaff 95 when you're referring to Dimitrov. Try using the Six.One 95 (red/white colorway). It's a bit stiffer and heftier.

If I compare specs with the POG, it's actually pretty light, too light for me.

Prince Original Graphite
Head Size: 93 sq. in. / 600 sq. cm.
Length: 27 inches / 69 cm
Strung Weight: 12.1oz / 343g
Balance: 8pts Head Light
Swingweight: 328
Stiffness: 66
Beam Width: 19 mm Straight Beam

Wilson BLX Pro Staff 95
Head Size: 95 sq. in. / 612.9 sq. cm.
Length: 27in / 68.58cm
Strung Weight: 11.5oz / 326.02g
Balance: 7 pts HL
Swingweight: 306
Stiffness: 62
Beam Width: 18mm / 18mm / 18mm /

Again, he's referring to the red BLX Six-One 95, not the white BLX ProStaff 95. Two completely different racquets. One is a thin, flexy, box beam, while the other is a thick, stiff, oval beam.

This one: http://www.tennis-warehouse.com/Wilson_BLX_SixOne_95_16x18/descpageRCWILSON-WSO95O.html#spec
 

Xfimpg

Professional

Shroud

G.O.A.T.
Are you serious? Ok that lead tape is coming off.

Yikes. I wouldnt have posted if I knew you would take it off. I personally think the added weight helps stability which helps make it arm friendly.

If you havent removed it try it with the weight first.

All you are doing is making it head light which IMHO is a good thing and has some good benefits, and really doesnt make it hard to swing, maybe a bit easier. 390g is a good weight IMHO.

I didnt want people to think that the plastidip is 24g which the word "counterbalance" implies.
 

ricki

Hall of Fame
Curious , any opinions on the Prince Ignite 95?

My GF has 2 Ignite 95 Teams and she basically plays with only these (she has also 2x Rebel 105...). It is REALLY great frame, with good head shape that you dont frame balls much with it, good sweetspot.

I have one Ignite 95 in my colletion and athrough its pretty headlight its real beast in terms of swingweight (feels more SW than Rebel 95). You can feel like a pro playing with it. I did not find it THAT unmaneuvrable as TW rewiew says...
 

Xfimpg

Professional
Yikes. I wouldnt have posted if I knew you would take it off. I personally think the added weight helps stability which helps make it arm friendly.

If you havent removed it try it with the weight first.

All you are doing is making it head light which IMHO is a good thing and has some good benefits, and really doesnt make it hard to swing, maybe a bit easier. 390g is a good weight IMHO.

I didnt want people to think that the plastidip is 24g which the word "counterbalance" implies.

No worries, I don't think it made a difference. I play tested with Plastidip tonite and had to put it aside after 5 minutes. The vibrations are still very present and it has a dead feel to it.
Maybe the difference is that you added silicon (i think) inside the handle, a shock shield grip, and maybe a few other things.
So it's back to the drawing board, play test more racquets, especially those recommended earlier in this thread.
I'm disappointed, but not discouraged!
 

Ronaldo

Bionic Poster
My GF has 2 Ignite 95 Teams and she basically plays with only these (she has also 2x Rebel 105...). It is REALLY great frame, with good head shape that you dont frame balls much with it, good sweetspot.

I have one Ignite 95 in my colletion and athrough its pretty headlight its real beast in terms of swingweight (feels more SW than Rebel 95). You can feel like a pro playing with it. I did not find it THAT unmaneuvrable as TW rewiew says...

Ignite Team 95 is the Bryan Bros old racquet, http://www.tennis-warehouse.com/descpage-PXOIT.html
 

Shroud

G.O.A.T.
No worries, I don't think it made a difference. I play tested with Plastidip tonite and had to put it aside after 5 minutes. The vibrations are still very present and it has a dead feel to it.
Maybe the difference is that you added silicon (i think) inside the handle, a shock shield grip, and maybe a few other things.
So it's back to the drawing board, play test more racquets, especially those recommended earlier in this thread.
I'm disappointed, but not discouraged!

Sorry it didnt work out for you.

Did you remove the lead tape? The plastidip helps but it was the last thing I did, so maybe it gets more credit than it deserves. It really made a big difference on my stick in terms of vibration.

Though I am confused. you said it didnt make a difference, but that it had a dead feel to it. Can you clarify?
 

Xfimpg

Professional
Sorry it didnt work out for you.

Did you remove the lead tape? The plastidip helps but it was the last thing I did, so maybe it gets more credit than it deserves. It really made a big difference on my stick in terms of vibration.

Though I am confused. you said it didnt make a difference, but that it had a dead feel to it. Can you clarify?

Sure, yep removed the lead tape and that took some weight off the racquet; I though 390 grams was a bit much, but that was me not doing my homework as to how much the plastidip adds weight, which is next to nothing.

Yes the racquet just felt dead. I could feel the vibrations as usual, but it's like it no longer had that raw graphite feel, just dead, like "thudly", if I can use that term.

Still a great suggestion though, I didn't mind trying it at all.
 

jman32

Rookie
Hi
I would appreciate any feedback from the community on this one.

Me: A 5.0 level player, heavy topspin with one-handed backhand, I generate my own power. I've tried the 98s and 100 and can't play with them, so I'm trying to stick to 95 or less. Back in the day I used Wilson Ultra, Prince Ceramic Comp, Head Graphite Pro. Great racquets but no longer in production.

I'm coming back from a 15-year layoff and so far I've been through the following racquets and all have given me tennis elbow issues:

- Wilson Blx Tour 90
- Prince Original Graphite 93
- ADD: Wilson Pro Staff 85 re-issue (no elbow issues but too flexy)

I'm assuming that both of these using outdated technologies? I was wondering if the Wilson Blx 95 that Dimitrov is using would be arm-friendly?

Any suggestions for a stiff but arm-friendly racquet for a back-court 1hbh banger?

prince diablo mid. really good, firm in a good way, you know exactly where the rackets without getting too much flex. but pushing if your are lazy or late.

prestige IG Pro. is another good option, more modern. you can be a little lazier than the prince. i think the IG is better than 6.1 95. in case you dont know the actual head size on the IG is about 95", not 98" as marketed by head.

i have played with both. the Diablo is harder to use but more rewarding. if you are a true 5.0 you will like the Diablo. the IG pro is more forgiving (meaning if you are a little late you will get away with it more). warning, the IG pro chews through string like you cant believe.

try both
 

Xfimpg

Professional
prince diablo mid. really good, firm in a good way, you know exactly where the rackets without getting too much flex. but pushing if your are lazy or late.

prestige IG Pro. is another good option, more modern. you can be a little lazier than the prince. i think the IG is better than 6.1 95. in case you dont know the actual head size on the IG is about 95", not 98" as marketed by head.

i have played with both. the Diablo is harder to use but more rewarding. if you are a true 5.0 you will like the Diablo. the IG pro is more forgiving (meaning if you are a little late you will get away with it more). warning, the IG pro chews through string like you cant believe.

try both

Interesting feedback, Diablo's been mentionned here a few times in a positive way.

I have a Prestige S - not the same weight but same shape - and for the life of me I didn't know where the hoop was when hitting a serve. Could be a weight issue. I did own an IG Youtek MP until recently but could not connect with the feel and the 18 x 20 killed my spin potential.
 

tmc5005

Rookie
In this case b/c when I crank it the racquet flexes too much and consequently lose control of the ball.

I have never heard this and never heard anyone have more control with a stiffer racquet A more flexible racquet not only increase control, but improves feel and touch and goes a long way toward preventing arm problems. If you are thinking you cannot control the ball with a flexible racquet it most be a mental issue, you should try out some more flexible frames
 

Xfimpg

Professional
I have never heard this and never heard anyone have more control with a stiffer racquet A more flexible racquet not only increase control, but improves feel and touch and goes a long way toward preventing arm problems. If you are thinking you cannot control the ball with a flexible racquet it most be a mental issue, you should try out some more flexible frames

Can you elaborate on how a flexible frame provides more control than a stiffer frame?
 

Xfimpg

Professional
prince diablo mid. really good, firm in a good way, you know exactly where the rackets without getting too much flex. but pushing if your are lazy or late.

prestige IG Pro. is another good option, more modern. you can be a little lazier than the prince. i think the IG is better than 6.1 95. in case you dont know the actual head size on the IG is about 95", not 98" as marketed by head.

i have played with both. the Diablo is harder to use but more rewarding. if you are a true 5.0 you will like the Diablo. the IG pro is more forgiving (meaning if you are a little late you will get away with it more). warning, the IG pro chews through string like you cant believe.

try both

I demoed the PS BLX 95 and its low powered like people have been saying. I also noticed that I would get into trouble if I tried to hit flat. I found the sweet spot to be to low near the throat and entirely dead on 1/3 top of the hoop. The hoop flex is too much.

Have you played the prestige midplus and the pro? Is there noticeable difference between the two?
 

Shroud

G.O.A.T.
Sure, yep removed the lead tape and that took some weight off the racquet; I though 390 grams was a bit much, but that was me not doing my homework as to how much the plastidip adds weight, which is next to nothing.

Yes the racquet just felt dead. I could feel the vibrations as usual, but it's like it no longer had that raw graphite feel, just dead, like "thudly", if I can use that term.

Still a great suggestion though, I didn't mind trying it at all.

Been thinking more about your experiences. I wish you had hit more than just 5 minutes. Anyhow can you explain the graphite feel?

Tennis is so subjective and individual but i dont know what you mean. Maybe its like some players liking the ping sound because that is what they are used too and not being able to play without it.

Me i like a thudly feel. Great word.
 

Xfimpg

Professional
Been thinking more about your experiences. I wish you had hit more than just 5 minutes. Anyhow can you explain the graphite feel?

Tennis is so subjective and individual but i dont know what you mean. Maybe its like some players liking the ping sound because that is what they are used too and not being able to play without it.

Me i like a thudly feel. Great word.

It is definitely subjective!
The feeling was beyond a muted feel, like dead; it was as if the racquet had no more life in it.
Yesterday I peeled off the plastidip and played with it today and it's alive again. But that sweetspot is so small, playing in the wind is a nightmare.
 

BreakPoint

Bionic Poster
I have never heard this and never heard anyone have more control with a stiffer racquet A more flexible racquet not only increase control, but improves feel and touch and goes a long way toward preventing arm problems. If you are thinking you cannot control the ball with a flexible racquet it most be a mental issue, you should try out some more flexible frames
Not true. A stiffer racquet provides more directional control because the ball doesn't deflect the frame from its intended direction as much and more of the energy is transferred back to the ball where you aim it.

But a flexible racquet does provide more feel, touch, and comfort.
 

Xfimpg

Professional
Not true. A stiffer racquet provides more directional control because the ball doesn't deflect the frame from its intended direction as much and more of the energy is transferred back to the ball where you aim it.

But a flexible racquet does provide more feel, touch, and comfort.

Thanks, that's what I learned 25 years ago. Glad to read that the laws of physics have not changed.
 

Shroud

G.O.A.T.
It is definitely subjective!
The feeling was beyond a muted feel, like dead; it was as if the racquet had no more life in it.
Yesterday I peeled off the plastidip and played with it today and it's alive again. But that sweetspot is so small, playing in the wind is a nightmare.

This is fascinating, the notion that the racquet is alive is interesting. 1st off, just that the title Franken POG might not be quite accurate is funny...its undead :)

2nd i think i see what you mean but its positive for me. Taking the racket out of the equation is one less variable that i have to worry about and things are more consistent. The psychological effects for me are huge and it feels like i am just better with that racket, and can focus on the strings.

Also i am coming from extreme tensions where there would be a solid pop like the pros. With lower tensions i miss that and having the racquet damped helps give me more of that feeling.

Sweetspot? What is that? Actually i am betting with all the weight at the handle the sweet spot is so low that I probably rarely hit it. It IS subjective. I dont need a spot on the racquet that has extra power! Control is what I need the most. Power is way down on the list. So in a weird way, a small sweetspot is good for shroud. The racquet is alive in that it is powerful due to the weight. That is something i think you are not benefitting from. That racket with the right balance and weight is plenty alive in terms of power...its a caged beast really

Its a 98, but you might want to try the Prince White racket. Big sweet spot and very lively.
 

Xfimpg

Professional
This is fascinating, the notion that the racquet is alive is interesting. 1st off, just that the title Franken POG might not be quite accurate is funny...its undead :)

2nd i think i see what you mean but its positive for me. Taking the racket out of the equation is one less variable that i have to worry about and things are more consistent. The psychological effects for me are huge and it feels like i am just better with that racket, and can focus on the strings.

Also i am coming from extreme tensions where there would be a solid pop like the pros. With lower tensions i miss that and having the racquet damped helps give me more of that feeling.

Sweetspot? What is that? Actually i am betting with all the weight at the handle the sweet spot is so low that I probably rarely hit it. It IS subjective. I dont need a spot on the racquet that has extra power! Control is what I need the most. Power is way down on the list. So in a weird way, a small sweetspot is good for shroud. The racquet is alive in that it is powerful due to the weight. That is something i think you are not benefitting from. That racket with the right balance and weight is plenty alive in terms of power...its a caged beast really

Its a 98, but you might want to try the Prince White racket. Big sweet spot and very lively.

It certainly is subjective and I enjoyed the play on words with the Franken POG. :) :) :)

If Prince White racquet you mean this one
http://www.tennis-warehouse.com/prince_o3_original_white/descpagercprince-po3w.html
it's a 100sq, a little too big for the backhand.

I took all the added weight, including any lead tape under the handle, off the racquet and played with it this morning as stock. Off course the wind wasn't helping but that sweetspot (yes, what sweetspot!) is too hard to find. Damn it, at 43 I'm getting old. lol
I used to be a 5.0-6.0 level player 20 years ago, I'm also certified to teach but don't, so my technique is solid, just maybe the muscles don't react as well as they used to. lol
I find it funny that I used to play with 85sq in my youth but now, well... it is definitely a faster game. I remember back then pounding in 110-120mph serves regularly and today I would be average, if not below.
 

BreakPoint

Bionic Poster
Thanks, that's what I learned 25 years ago. Glad to read that the laws of physics have not changed.
You're welcome.

However, I should also note that depth control may be more difficult with stiffer racquets just because they tend to be more powerful (all else being equal) so it's easier to hit the ball long.
 

Shroud

G.O.A.T.
It certainly is subjective and I enjoyed the play on words with the Franken POG. :) :) :)

If Prince White racquet you mean this one
http://www.tennis-warehouse.com/prince_o3_original_white/descpagercprince-po3w.html
it's a 100sq, a little too big for the backhand.

I took all the added weight, including any lead tape under the handle, off the racquet and played with it this morning as stock. Off course the wind wasn't helping but that sweetspot (yes, what sweetspot!) is too hard to find. Damn it, at 43 I'm getting old. lol
I used to be a 5.0-6.0 level player 20 years ago, I'm also certified to teach but don't, so my technique is solid, just maybe the muscles don't react as well as they used to. lol
I find it funny that I used to play with 85sq in my youth but now, well... it is definitely a faster game. I remember back then pounding in 110-120mph serves regularly and today I would be average, if not below.

Ha. I am in the same boat. At 44 the body is not what it used to be. I used to have big forearms and well they checked out right around 40. I could feel my muscles leaving and man they are so much harder to build these days. I am taking a break from tennis for a while because i am not in the proper shape to play like i want.

Hang in there.

Oh and on the serve my serve got faster when i added some weight. I was surprised by this but it is a nice side effect.
 

PaulC

Professional
For a while, I have no idea what on the earth the vibration on POG you're talking about and keep tossing ideas, until today...

All my 4-stripes POGs and Diablo Mids have broken strings, which left me with a pair of back-up Tour POGs that comes with Prince Topspin 15L strung at 58lbs during a local shop clearance a year ago (which I have yet to played with them)...

Being too tired and it's getting late to restring my regulars last night, so I grabbed them and played this morning, which happened to be cooler than usual (65C or so).

Voila!! and..... AW..OUCH!!

Man... it felt so different from the 4-stripes, particularly the ver. 1-2.

(I regularly strung them with syn guts at 58+ 10+ years ago and have no such vibration problems at all)

Good Lord, if there is a thing called over-feedbacks, this must be it for the Tour POG, compared with ver. 1-3 4-stripes.

Quickly cut the strings and went into the pro stop to restring it with my normal hybrid combos in low tensions mentioned before, and tried a few hits...

Seemed to get *closer* to my regular 4 stripes then, but the vibration and the HOLLOW feel is still there...

Grabbed some lead tapes, lead up 3 and 9 O'clocks each for 3 inches. Seems to stablize it a bit.

Lead up 10 and 2 O'clocks for 2 inches, getting a little bit better, but felt too head heavy then...

So went ahead to lead up the inside throat bridge and the insides of the *shaft* to counter-balance (I don't like too much weight on the handle).

Kinda getting there, but is now swinging much heavier than my regular un-lead 4-stripes.

Yikes!!
 
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