Stiff but arm-friendly racquet mid size?

PaulC

Professional
Hey i never had the older versions just the current ones so i don't know about he older ones.

I did the weight thing like you and well i did a whole thread on how to "fix" the tour models at least in terms of vibrations

http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showthread.php?t=472485

I did saw that, thanks but no thanks my friend... a little overkill for me :)

BTW, winded up I settled for removing half of the above mentioned lead-ups and left only one side (Left or Right) of them on each side of the opposite racket face --similar to how Johnny Mac lead up his PS Original 6.0 back then.

Seems to reduce the weight/balance back similar to my un-lead 4 stripes, vibration seems also minimized to an acceptable level, though the pingy hollow feel stays unless I use nat guts or multis to dampen it further, I guess...

But I can deal with that, given it's only for a back up stick anyway.
 

Shroud

G.O.A.T.
I did saw that, thanks but no thanks my friend... a little overkill for me :)

BTW, winded up I settled for removing half of the above mentioned lead-ups and left only one side (Left or Right) of them on each side of the opposite racket face --similar to how Johnny Mac lead up his PS Original 6.0 back then.

Seems to reduce the weight/balance back similar to my un-lead 4 stripes, vibration seems also minimized to an acceptable level, though the pingy hollow feel stays unless I use nat guts or multis to dampen it further, I guess...

But I can deal with that, given it's only for a back up stick anyway.

Very cool Paul. Makes some sense, and I might just try it. Though why not the same weight on both sides just shorter runs, or is the weight in half?
 

PaulC

Professional
Very cool Paul. Makes some sense, and I might just try it. Though why not the same weight on both sides just shorter runs, or is the weight in half?

It's just to keep the weighted location(s) on the frame more or less the same the way it has been lead.

(the actual length of them affect the desired overall balance due to locations being lead), I guess I can still cut the width of the lead tapes into half, but I prefer not to :)...

Plus for both BHs and FHs, your swing "enters" the ball only on one "leading" side (L or R) of the frame.

which was why Johnny Mac lead the PS 6.0 the way it was when he switched briefly from Dunlop MAX200G to the blacked out PS 6.0, given that the PS. 6.0 was way head-lighter than what he used to and he needed to mimic the old feel a little, but with a much thinner, faster racket)

Seen somewhere that Fed also lead 10 and 2 this way: only on one opposite side of frame.
 
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Shroud

G.O.A.T.
It's just to keep the weighted location(s) on the frame more or less the same the way it has been lead.

(the actually length of them affect the desired overall balance due to locations being lead), I guess I can still cut the width of the lead tapes into half, but I prefer not to :)...

Plus for both BHs and FHs, your swing "enters" the ball only on one "leading" side (L or R) of the frame.

which was why Johnny Mac lead the PS 6.0 the way it was when he switched briefly from Dunlop MAX200G to the blacked out PS 6.0, given that the PS. 6.0 was way head-lighter than what he used to and he needed to mimic the old feel a little, but with a much thinner, faster racket)

Seen somewhere that Fed also lead 10 and 2 this way: only on one opposite side of frame.

Let me pose this another way. If I have 10 grams at 10 and 10g at 2pm what difference does it make if it is 10g only on one side of the strings??

How is that different from 5g on one side of the strings and 5g on the other?
 

PaulC

Professional
Let me pose this another way. If I have 10 grams at 10 and 10g at 2pm what difference does it make if it is 10g only on one side of the strings??

How is that different from 5g on one side of the strings and 5g on the other?

I actually tried... my "backhand" string side feels a bit unstable-er compared with the side that is lead.

But I guess if you keep switching to the SAME string side to hit both BH and FH, theoretically, it should just works the same.
 

Shroud

G.O.A.T.
I actually tried... my "backhand" string side feels a bit unstable-er compared with the side that is lead.

But I guess if you keep switching to the SAME string side to hit both BH and FH, theoretically, it should just works the same.

Hey, that is what I do!!!! At least for the ground strokes. But what about the volley???
 

Xfimpg

Professional
Hey, would you guys happen to know what the weight difference is between handles, meaning a racquet that has a 4 1/2 vs one that has a 4 5/8?
 

PaulC

Professional
Any opinions on th Prince EXO3 Graphite mid? Mean Green

The things that I don't like:

1. Flex changed to 62 RA, too much flex for being a Prince Graphite, but I guess the Prestige crowd may like it.

2. The O-ports don't belongs here, created strange sliding feel for the strings. Grommet inserts on the other hand are pain in the rear-end.

The thing that I like: More plow-thru due to the slightly thicker beam.
 
looks like im late to the discussion, but have you tried a Donnay Pro-One 97? It sounds like a racquet that is in the wheelhouse of characteristics you are talking about.

i have one, and although its 97 head, it feels 'smaller' than that... the width of the head is the same as my old prostaff classic (95), so the added headsize is vertical (at the throat).

it is a players racquet and its primary characteristics are plow-through, spin generation and arm-friendliness (solid core). On paper its a light racquet but plays heavy.

it sounds like i was in a similar situation as you... 1 handed bh, slice 5 for every 1 topspin, prefer smaller head and generate my own power... give it a try, i love mine!
 

Xfimpg

Professional
looks like im late to the discussion, but have you tried a Donnay Pro-One 97? It sounds like a racquet that is in the wheelhouse of characteristics you are talking about.

i have one, and although its 97 head, it feels 'smaller' than that... the width of the head is the same as my old prostaff classic (95), so the added headsize is vertical (at the throat).

it is a players racquet and its primary characteristics are plow-through, spin generation and arm-friendliness (solid core). On paper its a light racquet but plays heavy.

it sounds like i was in a similar situation as you... 1 handed bh, slice 5 for every 1 topspin, prefer smaller head and generate my own power... give it a try, i love mine!

Hi MrFro
You're not late, the hunt is still on! :)

I appreciate your input, and Donnay is a brand I was looking at but no one in my area carries any so I could demo or least get me hands on one.

Did you also playtest the Dual core gold 94? How would you compare them?
 

NLBwell

Legend
If the Ceramic Comp didn't give you elbow problems back in the day and the Prince Graphite mid with syngut did recently, then my assumption would be that your form has taken a turn for the worse - or else just the loss of flexibility in tendons with age has caught up with you and you can't get away with hitting the ball the way you used to.

As far a racket, certainly try a ProKennex racket. The kinetic technology cured my ex-wife's tennis elbow. Qtour might work. A bit larger head and somewhat flex, but the 18 main string pattern should give some control and stiffen up the stringbed. There are also other flexy frames which would be easy on the arm. You might have to play with a frame that you don't feel is optimal to keep the TE from recurring.
 

Xfimpg

Professional
If the Ceramic Comp didn't give you elbow problems back in the day and the Prince Graphite mid with syngut did recently, then my assumption would be that your form has taken a turn for the worse - or else just the loss of flexibility in tendons with age has caught up with you and you can't get away with hitting the ball the way you used to.

As far a racket, certainly try a ProKennex racket. The kinetic technology cured my ex-wife's tennis elbow. Qtour might work. A bit larger head and somewhat flex, but the 18 main string pattern should give some control and stiffen up the stringbed. There are also other flexy frames which would be easy on the arm. You might have to play with a frame that you don't feel is optimal to keep the TE from recurring.

Thanks for the suggestion, i'll look into the Qtour. And yes, I am cringing at the thought of playing with a flexible racquet.

I did have bouts of tennis elbow in my younger days but I never was able to find the source of the problem. I had a huge grip back then, used to play with Pro Blend strings, sometimes would spend way too much time on court, technique could also be an issue. I went through so many racquets back then I can't pin point any specific time with which racquet that my elbow was hurting.
 

mkedda

Rookie
Heap graphene speed mp! I demoed everything and found this to be the stiffest yet arm friendliest racquet available today.
 

PaulC

Professional
Hi MrFro
You're not late, the hunt is still on! :)

I appreciate your input, and Donnay is a brand I was looking at but no one in my area carries any so I could demo or least get me hands on one.

Did you also playtest the Dual core gold 94? How would you compare them?

Free ad service for TW here: feel free to demo it at TW here, 2 rackets for $10 or so!!

Pretty solid mid frame, the only thing that I'd knock on it is the ultra-thin AND non-flat beam. But it can be just me.
 

Xfimpg

Professional
Free ad service for TW here: feel free to demo it at TW here, 2 rackets for $10 or so!!

Pretty solid mid frame, the only thing that I'd knock on it is the ultra-thin AND non-flat beam. But it can be just me.

Hey Paul
Oh you're right about the demos, just having to pick them up across the border is an absolute PIA. :mad:
 

robbo1970

Hall of Fame
Any opinions on th Prince EXO3 Graphite mid? Mean Green

That was kind of going to be my suggestion.

12oz strung, 330sw, around 63 stiffness (I think). Very comfortable racket to use. The rounder head shape makes the head feel bigger than a 93 and strung with PSGD its a really comfortable racket to use.
 
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