Stop talking about Federer's age!!

Numero Uno

Numero Uno

Semi-Pro
We have a lot players that are simillar age to Rogers,and they are playing some of the best tennis of their lives-Ferrer,Lopez,Benneteau,Karlovic (36),Robredo,Verdasco,Seppi...... So Federer is not so special for playing this good at his age
 
Numero Uno said:
We have a lot players that are simillar age to Rogers,and they are playing some of the best tennis of their lives-Ferrer,Lopez,Benneteau,Karlovic (36),Robredo,Verdasco,Seppi...... So Federer is not so special for playing this good at his age
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Yeah IKR. Ferrer, Lopez, Benneteau, Karlovic, Robredo, Verdasco are all beating top 5 players and making finals. I'm surprised they all made the final of IW this year.
 
Are you taking into account how many matches he has played during his career, and how deep he still goes in plenty of tournaments? How tough he fights against the likes of Djokovic still? Not to mention a very good record against Top 10 this past year. It's quite impressive.
 
Fed is not a Karlovic or Lolbredo. He is an all-time-great with serious mileage. Compared with reasonable peers, he is an extraordinary case in recent history. There's obviously Agassi, although he had less mileage at the same age.

Amazing that Fed is doing all this when he is almost 37.
 
Sysyphus said:
Fed is not a Karlovic or Lolbredo. He is an all-time-great with serious mileage. Compared with reasonable peers, he is an extraordinary case in recent history. There's obviously Agassi, although he had less mileage at the same age.

Amazing that Fed is doing all this when he is almost 37.
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True. Fed is doing great for a guy nearing 40.
 
Numero Uno said:
We have a lot players that are simillar age to Rogers,and they are playing some of the best tennis of their lives-Ferrer,Lopez,Benneteau,Karlovic (36),Robredo,Verdasco,Seppi...... So Federer is not so special for playing this good at his age
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I think what that shows is that Federer's weak era theory is not a fact but just an imagination. Federer's era produced some great players and they still play well at their advanced age against much younger opponents.
 
If you go by history most of the past top players fizzled out pretty quickly after hitting 30, only Agassi really played great well into his 30s but still not to the levels rogers hit past 30, it's a different level. He's causing the number 1 player in the world in his prime lots of trouble. And with the physicality, speed of the courts and length of rallies in today's game, it's quite frankly unbelievable how Rogers continued to evolve and keep up with the young guns.
 
Well said OP. Age just a desperate excuse for fed fans, instead of just admitting Djoko is the superior player now. Nole has been overall more superior for last 4 years now.
 
chjtennis said:
I think what that shows is that Federer's weak era theory is not a fact but just an imagination. Federer's era produced some great players and they still play well at their advanced age against much younger opponents.
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Absolutely. This sort of thing is unprecedented, really. Weak era in my behind.

Eta: it should be renamed "Perfectly acceptable era with extraordinary breadth".
 
Djokovic_is_the_best#1 said:
Well said OP. Age just a desperate excuse for fed fans, instead of just admitting Djoko is the superior player now. Nole has been overall more superior for last 4 years now.
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Almost everyone admits Djokovic is the superior player right now. I don't know what you have been reading? :confused:

It's just the fact that Federer still gets wins and keeps the matches competitive with Djokovic EVEN now, is quite amazing.
 
Numero Uno said:
We have a lot players that are simillar age to Rogers,and they are playing some of the best tennis of their lives-Ferrer,Lopez,Benneteau,Karlovic (36),Robredo,Verdasco,Seppi...... So Federer is not so special for playing this good at his age
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Yes he is but there is only one way to convince you. Wait 5 years and then watch Murray, Djokovic and Nadal. It will not be pretty.
 
If Federer grows a beard he will be at least 40 in my book, maybe even 50.
 
Why does it have to be so black and white? His age isn't an end all excuse for losing, but you can't just ignore his age by saying "Player A and Player B are playing great tennis in their 30s! So age doesn't matter."
 
Nobody disputes that Djokovic is the better player at the moment.
Why would they? It's obvious.

But that doesn't change the fact that Federer is very post-prime.
Saying his age doesn't matter is idiotic.

BUT:

Fed making slow HC finals at 33 and getting sets off Djokovic just cements his GOAT status.

Fed losing reflects on Federer at this juncture in his career.
Djokovic losing would have reflected on Djokovic, especially with those mental lapses.

The better player on the day won the match, so today, tennis won.
 
I think people forget a big factor to Federer's tennis in 2015 - the 97 sq inch racket. Federer has set it up to the best way possible and he is now fully used to playing with it. As the result, his ground strokes have much more zip than they had for 2-3 years prior to the racket change. I can't imagine how many more of those close finals he would've won had he switched earlier. This racket change will prolong his career at high level for a couple more years.
 
Firstservingman said:
Nobody disputes that Djokovic is the better player at the moment.
Why would they? It's obvious.

But that doesn't change the fact that Federer is very post-prime.
Saying his age doesn't matter is idiotic.

BUT:

Fed making slow HC finals at 33 and getting sets off Djokovic just cements his GOAT status.

Fed losing reflects on Federer at this juncture in his career.
Djokovic losing would have reflected on Djokovic, especially with those mental lapses.

The better player on the day won the match, so today, tennis won.
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Same thing can be said about Djokovic. Un-prime, unpeak, baby Nole was taking of sets and winning some matches against Federer in his prime too. It works both ways. Hell their first ever match in Monte Carlo 2006 was a 3 setter in favour of Federer.
 
If a Federer turns 40 but no one is around to see it, does it make a goat?
 
TennisCJC said:
Yes he is but there is only one way to convince you. Wait 5 years and then watch Murray, Djokovic and Nadal. It will not be pretty

Common Novak is in much better phisycal condition then Federer (not only now,but always) so im expecting Novak to play until 34 at least
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Pocalypse said:
Same thing can be said about Djokovic. Un-prime, unpeak, baby Nole was taking of sets and winning some matches against Federer in his prime too. It works both ways. Hell their first ever match in Monte Carlo 2006 was a 3 setter in favour of Federer.
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In 2006 maybe.

In 2007 he was making slam finals, so no.
 
Pocalypse said:
Same thing can be said about Djokovic. Un-prime, unpeak, baby Nole was taking of sets and winning some matches against Federer in his prime too. It works both ways. Hell their first ever match in Monte Carlo 2006 was a 3 setter in favour of Federer.
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Yep. It absolutely does. They have surely played more matches outside of Fed's peak than outside of Novak's though.
 
Sysyphus said:
If Federer speaks his mind in a forest, but no one is there to hear him, is he still being arrogant?
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How arrogant of Federer for isolating himself in a forest (The Redwood Forest, because he is older than the trees themselves).

Does Federer's apparent aging increase in accordance with the Golden Ratio?
 
Firstservingman said:
In 2006 maybe.

In 2007 he was making slam finals, so no.
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Novak wasn't at his prime state in 2007 or any years before 2010. Just because he won a slam doesn't mean prime state. You lot act like prime Federer would beat Novak with a 6-0, 6-0, 6-0 score at every match when the results debunk everything about that.
 
Pocalypse said:
Novak wasn't at his prime state in 2007 or any years before 2010. Just because he won a slam doesn't mean prime state.
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He was a top player from 2007 onwards.
Otherwise we should discount all of Djoker's wins over Fed post AO-2010 then, should we?
Both have benefited from each other's non-primeness, but Novak many more times than Fed.

Pocalypse said:
You lot act like prime Federer would beat Novak with a 6-0, 6-0, 6-0 score at every match when the results debunk everything about that.
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Now you're just being silly.
On an average surface prime-to-prime, 6-1 3-6 7-6 6-3 for Fed sounds about right.
 
Firstservingman said:
In 2006 maybe.

In 2007 he was making slam finals, so no.
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so what? Federer is making slam finals now, is he at his peak?

Pocalypse said:
Novak wasn't at his prime state in 2007 or any years before 2010. Just because he won a slam doesn't mean prime state. You lot act like prime Federer would beat Novak with a 6-0, 6-0, 6-0 score at every match when the results debunk everything about that.
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this. it's always age or matchup or I dno what. better player of the day won. that's all. no more no less.
 
Actually I've decided I don't have time for Fed haters anymore.

Peace out.
 
Firstservingman said:
He was a top player from 2007 onwards.
Otherwise we should discount all of Djoker's wins over Fed post AO-2010 then, should we?
Both have benefited from each other's non-primeness, but Novak many more times than Fed.
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Does that mean Novak was in his prime just because he was a top player? Federer is a top player right now, ranked #2 and yet you still berate on talking about his age and prime but when mentioned about young Nole taking sets of Federer, winning some matches here and there, going tiebreaks in Federer's prime...you don't like it.
 
Matches Played on tour :

1. United States Jimmy Connors 1531
2. Czechoslovakia Ivan Lendl 1310
3. Switzerland Roger Federer 1241
4. Argentina Guillermo Vilas 1215
5. United States Andre Agassi 1144
6. Romania Ilie Nastase 1083
7. United States John McEnroe 1073
8. Sweden Stefan Edberg 1071
9. United States Brian Gottfried 1002
10. United States Pete Sampras 984


........

Rafa 860
Djokovic 765
 
Sirius Black said:
If Federer grows a beard he will be at least 40 in my book, maybe even 50.
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the second coming is upon us. he will descend with a hobo beard and 2HBH
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so? should Djokovic lose to a guy with 200 matches just because he played 500 matches more?

or you wanted to post something just for posting sake?
 
xan said:
so? should Djokovic lose to a guy with 200 matches just because he played 500 matches more?

or you wanted to post something just for posting sake?
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Federer's tennis age is almost twice that of Novak.

Novak losing to Federer today is like Federer losing to Sampras now.
 
Wow injured, one-legged Nole beats a healthy Federer. Roger must feel a real embarrassment right now :shock:
 
uliks said:
Wow injured, one-legged Nole beats a healthy Federer. Roger must feel a real embarrassment right now :shock:
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More like Mugerer loses to an extremely good Novak.

Actually watching the match is advised.
 
bullfan said:
Seriously, you are obsessed to have that many posts in a single year.....
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What am I supposed to be obsessed with, again?

:lol:

Anyway, I'm going out for a while, so I'll see all you guys here again later on, I'm sure.
 
Pocalypse said:
Novak wasn't at his prime state in 2007 or any years before 2010. Just because he won a slam doesn't mean prime state. You lot act like prime Federer would beat Novak with a 6-0, 6-0, 6-0 score at every match when the results debunk everything about that.
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Novak was in his prime in 2007. And he struggled with Federer who was already 6 years past his prime at the time.
 
Numero Uno said:
We have a lot players that are simillar age to Rogers,and they are playing some of the best tennis of their lives-Ferrer,Lopez,Benneteau,Karlovic (36),Robredo,Verdasco,Seppi...... So Federer is not so special for playing this good at his age
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I agree. He is not special at all.
 
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