If you are talking about spacing and swinging forward close to shoulder plane ... I have a thread for you.Let me throw out something else to think about which is quite important in my view: how far from torso to keep the hitting arm hence the racket during the back swing/unit turn?
I mean both. Close to torso both on back swing and forward swing.If you are talking about spacing and swinging forward close to shoulder plane ... I have a thread for you.But arm positions on unit turn ... nah ... just foreplay.
I love this Fed bh angle ... does he match what you mean?Let me throw out something else to think about which is quite important in my view: how far from torso to keep the hitting arm hence the racket during the back swing/unit turn?
Oh ... you meant "close", I assumed you meant out away from body. By contact in video above arm, arm/hand extended away from body for power from spacing. ???I mean both. Close to torso both on back swing and forward swing.
Love me some Edberg ... but if it's an "important thing" ... it will also be in Fed's bh.My perfect example for this is Edberg.
Whaaaaat?Almost all the job is done by the left arm and unit turn. Right arm does nothing!!
Almost all the job is done by the left arm and unit turn. Right arm does nothing!!
on the take back (other than grip change - but even that is heavily left hand assisted), i feel like the left hand is doing all the work of pulling the racquet back (not really, but it is "holding tension" against the right arm (like a horse in a starting gate)) - work is really being done by the unit turnWhaaaaat?
This is too overrated imh, as long as you get good extension on the shoulder or as @Chas puts it above pressing the upper arm on chest. If you really want to rip it thats when you take it back a bit more.Let me throw out something else to think about which is quite important in my view: how far from torso to keep the hitting arm hence the racket during the back swing/unit turn?
Good ... a question ... a break from converting 83 year old mom's cassettes to CDs. I think that is like moving her from 4 generations back to 3 generations back.on the take back (other than grip change - but even that is heavily left hand assisted), i feel like the left hand is doing all the work of pulling the racquet back (not really, but it is "holding tension" against the right arm (like a horse in a starting gate)) - work is really being done by the unit turn
not til i'm ready to swing forward does my right do anything (racquet drop, guide head to contact)... to me the right arm is not even powering the stroke (powered by the uncoil... the right arm is just trying to sync/harness the momentum and get the head to contact)
bbp - what is your right arm doing on the take back?
I would say the spacing and arm relative to shoulder plane (more power if you can swing closer to your shoulder plane and keep good spacing at contact) is the part that matters. I think everything before swinging from the slot is just foreplay/prep. You see many variations of hand position at slot in pro 2hbhs for example. Nadal is pretty close to hip at slot before swinging out to contact, and Simone does everything from away from the body. Both have good spacing at contact ... that is what matters imo. What I mean by "swing closer to the shoulder plane". I noticed looking at my 1hbh (neglected for 3 years), that I have a habit of swinging my right arm (dom) with too much downward angle from the shoulder. Even though I feel I am smooth with the 1) shoulder/unit turn first ... then 2) add with arm .... that has to be less powerful leverage than swinging the arm with less downward angle from shoulder. More spacing ... lean forward more ... whatever puts the arm closer to the shoulder plane. I have never seen a instruction video on this ... so just what I observe watching pro 1hbh video. Also ... my 5 minute test at the end of last year (before winter hit), really seemed like I gained effortless increase in easy pace by merely stepping a bit more away from the ball and bending some where I stayed vertical before. Weather is breaking ... I will get to test this some more in the next month.This is too overrated imh, as long as you get good extension on the shoulder or as @Chas puts it above pressing the upper arm on chest. If you really want to rip it thats when you take it back a bit more.
The moment i stopped focusing on prep and more on where I was and body position along with what you mention in leg drive is when i saw consistency on my bh.I would say the spacing and arm relative to shoulder plane (more power if you can swing closer to your shoulder plane and keep good spacing at contact) is the part that matters. I think everything before swinging from the slot is just foreplay/prep. You see many variations of hand position at slot in pro 2hbhs for example. Nadal is pretty close to hip at slot before swinging out to contact, and Simone does everything from away from the body. Both have good spacing at contact ... that is what matters imo. What I mean by "swing closer to the shoulder plane". I noticed looking at my 1hbh (neglected for 3 years), that I have a habit of swinging my right arm (dom) with too much downward angle from the shoulder. Even though I feel I am smooth with the 1) shoulder/unit turn first ... then 2) add with arm .... that has to be less powerful leverage than swinging the arm with less downward angle from shoulder. More spacing ... lean forward more ... whatever puts the arm closer to the shoulder plane. I have never seen a instruction video on this ... so just what I observe watching pro 1hbh video. Also ... my 5 minute test at the end of last year (before winter hit), really seemed like I gained effortless increase in easy pace by merely stepping a bit more away from the ball and bending some where I stayed vertical before. Weather is breaking ... I will get to test this some more in the next month.
It is obvious to me focusing on prep ... along with video review ... can be a great aid. What is less obvious is the identifying the time it's time to "drop the technical" drill down ... and go with what you got. For example, at the start of learning the 2hbh three years ago, I think all of my "technical overloading" actually did some good. When you are at the start of a stroke learning curve (or enough a change it should be treated as starting over), it's the best time to ask yourself "what type of stroke" do you want to end up with. For example, I wanted to end up with the Agassi straight/straight ... and not a Venus Williams bent/bent ... so why not start from there when I couldn't hit a ball over the net anyway. FYI ... did not end up at that straight/straight ... ended up bent/straight.The moment i stopped focusing on prep and more on where I was and body position along with what you mention in leg drive is when i saw consistency on my bh.