String or Technique?

What's up yall got a quick question for you.

So I've been playing with the Pure Strike P17 and had then strung up with a hybrid of Kirschbaum Pro Line X and Tourna Quasi Gut Armor. I originally got this setup because I recently switched from the Prince EXO3 Tour 100's that played like pillows no matter what string you put in. Thus I had gotten pretty used to the feel of full poly beds, but I was worried that full poly might be too stiff in the Pure Strike and would wreck my arm due to the difference between the two racquets.

Anyway, the hybrids that I strung in my racquets are feeling pretty dead and are about to break any second now. While the feeling and playability right off the stringer were great, the response off the stringbed was overall pretty inconsistent and I really miss the feeling of a full poly bed.

So I was wondering what would be an efficient use of the strings I have left. I have 3 sets of Kirschbaum and 2 sets of the Tourna but I don't know if I'll be using them. Should I suck it up and use the string up or just save it for a rainy day? Or is the inconsistent response that I'm getting part of my technique that needs to be improved? I've got some videos posted of my hitting just to give some context.
 

Ramon

Legend
It's obvious that the poly is dying, and once they lose enough elasticity you're arm starts to hurt. I'm saying that because you say it's great coming off the stringer, and now they are dead. You can either cut your strings out every 3-5 hours, or you can stop using poly. I recommend the latter.
 

esgee48

Legend
Proline X is a factory pre stretched poly. All that does is make the string bed more consistent. It does not extend string life. Still needs to be replaced every 12-16 hours at most. At worst, replace every 8 hours. 3¢

If you hit flat, then use a SG. If you are a spinner, use Kevlar/ZX. If you do not want to use K/Z and wish to continue with poly mains, use Bab Spiral Tek as a cross. Will still need to replace within 12-16 hours.
 
It's obvious that the poly is dying, and once they lose enough elasticity you're arm starts to hurt. I'm saying that because you say it's great coming off the stringer, and now they are dead. You can either cut your strings out every 3-5 hours, or you can stop using poly. I recommend the latter.
Well yeah I know the hybrid is dead I'm just waiting for the crosses to break before I restring. I was just wondering if I should suck it up and keep stringing up the hybrid or switch to full poly or if I should keep refining my technique and not worry about my strings.

I like poly, I'm very intimate with poly, we've had a great past and I'm looking to have a great future with poly as well.
 
Proline X is a factory pre stretched poly. All that does is make the string bed more consistent. It does not extend string life. Still needs to be replaced every 12-16 hours at most. At worst, replace every 8 hours. 3¢

If you hit flat, then use a SG. If you are a spinner, use Kevlar/ZX. If you do not want to use K/Z and wish to continue with poly mains, use Bab Spiral Tek as a cross. Will still need to replace within 12-16 hours.
Not a question if what hybrid to use or what string I should switch to. Just a question if you think I should suck it up and keep using the hybrid since I have more sets of each string or switch to poly and have a good time but keep the multi in my closet for a rainy day.
 

Ramon

Legend
Well yeah I know the hybrid is dead I'm just waiting for the crosses to break before I restring. I was just wondering if I should suck it up and keep stringing up the hybrid or switch to full poly or if I should keep refining my technique and not worry about my strings.

I like poly, I'm very intimate with poly, we've had a great past and I'm looking to have a great future with poly as well.
I'm going under the assumption that you're an advanced player whose style takes advantage of poly. If that's the case, it's likely that your strokes are pretty much set and major changes in the way you play are unlikely, and subtle changes will most likely not change things. I was in the same boat. I decided to try other strings, and I'm ok with it now. One thing I do notice, which we have in common, is that certain racquets will let me use poly. I used to play with the Prince Tour 98 ESP, and I could use full poly with no problems. That racquet went through strings so fast that poly would break in about 6 hours, so dying was not an issue. You might consider going back to your Tour 100 (or the Phantom 100 which replaces it). I can't even put poly in my Pro Kennex Ki 5 320, which is very arm friendly compared to most racquets, so I use soft strings with that one. BTW, I also own a Babolat Pure Strike 98 16x19 (Project One Seven). I was really impressed with the way it played, but I found out that my elbow would feel pain after about a set, so it stay in the closet, and that was with soft strings.
 
I'm going under the assumption that you're an advanced player whose style takes advantage of poly. If that's the case, it's likely that your strokes are pretty much set and major changes in the way you play are unlikely, and subtle changes will most likely not change things. I was in the same boat. I decided to try other strings, and I'm ok with it now. One thing I do notice, which we have in common, is that certain racquets will let me use poly. I used to play with the Prince Tour 98 ESP, and I could use full poly with no problems. That racquet went through strings so fast that poly would break in about 6 hours, so dying was not an issue. You might consider going back to your Tour 100 (or the Phantom 100 which replaces it). I can't even put poly in my Pro Kennex Ki 5 320, which is very arm friendly compared to most racquets, so I use soft strings with that one. BTW, I also own a Babolat Pure Strike 98 16x19 (Project One Seven). I was really impressed with the way it played, but I found out that my elbow would feel pain after about a set, so it stay in the closet, and that was with soft strings.
I would like to assume that too but I see so many people say "blah blah only one percent of tennis players should use poly blah blah" and it always puts the thought in my mind that my strings are compensating for my technique or vice versa. I'll probably stick to my Babolat because my Prince racquets are like 5 years old and pretty beat up. Planning on stringing the poly pretty low 50's and I'll report back if I get any arm issues.
 

Traffic

Hall of Fame
Well yeah I know the hybrid is dead I'm just waiting for the crosses to break before I restring. I was just wondering if I should suck it up and keep stringing up the hybrid or switch to full poly or if I should keep refining my technique and not worry about my strings.

I like poly, I'm very intimate with poly, we've had a great past and I'm looking to have a great future with poly as well.
Here's your problem. If you are playing with poly, waiting for the strings to break is NOT when you want to re-string.

Use @esgee48 recommendation of 12-16hrs stringing interval.

When my son is just training, he re-strings every 15 or so hours. When he is playing high school season then he re-strings every 8-12hrs.

When he is about to enter a tournament, he starts playing with fresh strings a day prior to his first match.

Poly playability changes as it detensions. It also has a point where it is dead. Playing with dead poly changes the way your racquet performs signficantly.
 
Here's your problem. If you are playing with poly, waiting for the strings to break is NOT when you want to re-string.

Use @esgee48 recommendation of 12-16hrs stringing interval.

When my son is just training, he re-strings every 15 or so hours. When he is playing high school season then he re-strings every 8-12hrs.

When he is about to enter a tournament, he starts playing with fresh strings a day prior to his first match.

Poly playability changes as it detensions. It also has a point where it is dead. Playing with dead poly changes the way your racquet performs signficantly.
The crosses are multi and are almost about to pop and I want that satisfaction. Haven't quite reached the 15 hour threshold yet and I don't really want to keep paying for restringing unless it's really needed.
 

Dartagnan64

Legend
The crosses are multi and are almost about to pop and I want that satisfaction. Haven't quite reached the 15 hour threshold yet and I don't really want to keep paying for restringing unless it's really needed.
Then don't use poly. The pros don't use poly past the 3 hour mark.

If you want to use a string with tension maintenance that's good until it pops try Origin combined with a poly cross of your choosing.
 

Ramon

Legend
The crosses are multi and are almost about to pop and I want that satisfaction. Haven't quite reached the 15 hour threshold yet and I don't really want to keep paying for restringing unless it's really needed.
I would say that if your arm is hurting it's really needed. Poly was made for pros because pros can change racquets after every set. The copolys they have now will go longer but not 15 hours. It's an individual decision. When I played with poly I noticed a difference after about 2 matches, which is clearly not enough for me and why I choose not to use it. Some people can play with poly for 20 hours and not feel a thing.
 

Traffic

Hall of Fame
The crosses are multi and are almost about to pop and I want that satisfaction. Haven't quite reached the 15 hour threshold yet and I don't really want to keep paying for restringing unless it's really needed.
Yeah, my son wanted the honor of breaking his strings. Go get a 18x16 open pattern racquet like the Pro Staff 97LS and you'll pop poly strings in 8-10hrs. My son switched to a 16x19 racquet and his strings would go dead before they broke. This is on full bed of poly.

If you want consistent hitting, change out the poly at a regular interval when they start to feel dead.

As your strings become dead, they lose power and spin potential. You start to hit more eratically.
When you string poly with s-gut cross or multi, as you lose tension, you may actually gain power. But again, you start to spray balls.

What's more important, hitting with a consistent setup or bragging about breaking strings?
 

Moveforwardalways

Hall of Fame
A Pure Strike really shouldn’t hurt your arm unless your arm is already hurt. It’s not that stiff (it has an RA similar to a Wilson Blade), it is extremely stable, and it has a pretty dense string pattern for a 16 x 19. It should only feel stiff if you are used to the most flexible racquets imaginable on the market today.
 

gazz1

Rookie
A Pure Strike really shouldn’t hurt your arm unless your arm is already hurt. It’s not that stiff (it has an RA similar to a Wilson Blade), it is extremely stable, and it has a pretty dense string pattern for a 16 x 19. It should only feel stiff if you are used to the most flexible racquets imaginable on the market today.
I have also stopped using it because it hurt my arm.

Beautiful racket but it plays stiffer than the RA rating would indicate.

Maybe I should try scratching the "Babolat" logo of it...seems to be the common denominator with stiff rackets.
 
If you want consistent hitting, change out the poly at a regular interval when they start to feel dead.

As your strings become dead, they lose power and spin potential. You start to hit more eratically.
When you string poly with s-gut cross or multi, as you lose tension, you may actually gain power. But again, you start to spray balls.
This is the Gospel Truth. I started restringing after about 10 hours regardless what I put in my 16x20 frame. Around the 10-hour mark, ball placement deviates more and more the longer I try to keep hitting with them. After started changing strings at this frequency my Dr. Jekyll/Mr. Hyde style play is a thing of the past and tennis becomes much more fun for me. I envy guys some of the folks I string for who a decent game with the same strings for more than a month.
 
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