String suggestion similar to YPTP 1.25 Yellow but with better string retension

Angelface

New User
Hi,

I have used the Yellow (Black and blue are to my experience very different) Yonex Poly Tour Pro 1.25 for the past year and I really like it, however, it seems to die on me extremely quickly, it might have to do something with the cold climate in Sweden, not sure. Tested both 2 & 4 knots with pretty much same result.

I'm looking for alternatives in the same segment, soft polly that are comfortable (struggling with wrist issues occasionally) but that lasts longer than just a few hours. Any suggestions? I looked for similar queries on the forum but couldn't find the exact same scope.

I'm a 4.0, playing with Yonex Vcore 98 at 48.5 lbs.

My idea is to purchase a few string sets and test them, but not really sure about what I should try, some options that has come up so far is Hyper-G, Poly Tour Rev, RS Lyon, & Wilson Revolve.
 
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WNB93

Rookie
Well, the new poly tour rev is very comfortable and plays very good until breaking. It does not seem to have that dropping off the cliff thing that many other strings have.
But as far as I know it's not on sale yet for the general public.
Contrary to Yonex's claims, it is not a spin monster even though it is shaped (unlike some people claim) but just an overall nice string.

It is firmed than PTP but doesn't feel firm.

Regarding wrist issues, have you tried stretching your forearm muscles? That saved my "life".
 

happyandbob

Hall of Fame
Here are the most similar strings to YPTP Yellow according to the TWU string database

YPTP Yellow has 181 stiffness, 47 pct tension loss, and 87 pct energy return. These strings are close in stiffness and energy return but all with tension loss less than 40 percent. according to TWU it seems the non-yellow YPTP holds tension better than the yellow.

YMMV, but I've tried many of the strings on this list and haven't particularly cared for them -- I really like Hyper-G but not the 18 gauge.

StringMaterialGaugeStiffnessTension Loss PctEnergy Return Pct
Babolat Pro Hurricane 18Polyester1.2185.237.287
Babolat RPM Blast 18 (1.20)Polyester1.2189.236.187.4
Diadem Elite XT 17Polyester1.2189.231.789.3
Diadem Solstice Pro 16L (1.25)Polyester0178.931.489.1
Gamma IO 18 (1.18)Polyester1.18188.630.487.6
Gamma Moto Soft 17 (1.24)Polyester1.2418434.887
Gamma RZR Rx 17Polyester1.23185.228.788.2
Gosen G-Tour 16 (1.30)Polyester1.318431.186.9
IsoSpeed Cream 17 (1.28)Polyester1.28177.728.189.7
MSV Co-Focus 17L (1.18)Polyester1.18185.73188.5
Prince Tour XP 17 (1.25)Polyester1.25189.236.186.9
Prince Tour XT 18Polyester1.1818438.288
RS RS Lyon 17L (1.20)Polyester1.2182.936.787.8
Signum Pro Hyperion 18 (1.18)Polyester1.1818436.185.6
Solinco Barb Wire 16L (1.25)Polyester1.25182.933.585.4
Solinco Hyper-G 18 (1.15)Polyester1.1518028.388.4
Solinco Outlast 18 (1.15)Polyester1.15186.326.990.6
Solinco Tour Bite Soft 17 (1.20)Polyester1.2186.329.287
Tecnifibre X-Code 16Polyester1.318837.985.2
Topspin Cyber Blue 17L (1.20)Polyester1.2184.633.787.4
Tourna Black Zone 17Polyester1.2186.931.588
Volkl Cyclone 18L (1.15)Polyester1.1518829.488.2
Volkl Cyclone 19 (1.10)Polyester1.1182.933.288.5
Volkl V-Torque Tour 16 (1.30)Polyester1.318438.388.2
Weiss Cannon Mosquito Bite 18 (1.16)Polyester1.16182.335.487.8
Weiss Cannon Red Ghost 17L (1.18)Polyester1.18189.73487.2
Yonex Poly Tour Pro 17 (1.20)Polyester1.2188.633.387
 

Angelface

New User
Well, the new poly tour rev is very comfortable and plays very good until breaking. It does not seem to have that dropping off the cliff thing that many other strings have.
But as far as I know it's not on sale yet for the general public.
Contrary to Yonex's claims, it is not a spin monster even though it is shaped (unlike some people claim) but just an overall nice string.

It is firmed than PTP but doesn't feel firm.

Regarding wrist issues, have you tried stretching your forearm muscles? That saved my "life".
Thank you! I'll definitely put Rev on the list, I've heard different things but overall positive, I noticed it is available on TWE now.

No, I haven't, I will definitely check it out and give it a try, just googled it and will try it this week, cheers!
 

Angelface

New User
Here are the most similar strings to YPTP Yellow according to the TWU string database

YPTP Yellow has 181 stiffness, 47 pct tension loss, and 87 pct energy return. These strings are close in stiffness and energy return but all with tension loss less than 40 percent. according to TWU it seems the non-yellow YPTP holds tension better than the yellow.

YMMV, but I've tried many of the strings on this list and haven't particularly cared for them -- I really like Hyper-G but not the 18 gauge.

StringMaterialGaugeStiffnessTension Loss PctEnergy Return Pct
Babolat Pro Hurricane 18Polyester1.2185.237.287
Babolat RPM Blast 18 (1.20)Polyester1.2189.236.187.4
Diadem Elite XT 17Polyester1.2189.231.789.3
Diadem Solstice Pro 16L (1.25)Polyester0178.931.489.1
Gamma IO 18 (1.18)Polyester1.18188.630.487.6
Gamma Moto Soft 17 (1.24)Polyester1.2418434.887
Gamma RZR Rx 17Polyester1.23185.228.788.2
Gosen G-Tour 16 (1.30)Polyester1.318431.186.9
IsoSpeed Cream 17 (1.28)Polyester1.28177.728.189.7
MSV Co-Focus 17L (1.18)Polyester1.18185.73188.5
Prince Tour XP 17 (1.25)Polyester1.25189.236.186.9
Prince Tour XT 18Polyester1.1818438.288
RS RS Lyon 17L (1.20)Polyester1.2182.936.787.8
Signum Pro Hyperion 18 (1.18)Polyester1.1818436.185.6
Solinco Barb Wire 16L (1.25)Polyester1.25182.933.585.4
Solinco Hyper-G 18 (1.15)Polyester1.1518028.388.4
Solinco Outlast 18 (1.15)Polyester1.15186.326.990.6
Solinco Tour Bite Soft 17 (1.20)Polyester1.2186.329.287
Tecnifibre X-Code 16Polyester1.318837.985.2
Topspin Cyber Blue 17L (1.20)Polyester1.2184.633.787.4
Tourna Black Zone 17Polyester1.2186.931.588
Volkl Cyclone 18L (1.15)Polyester1.1518829.488.2
Volkl Cyclone 19 (1.10)Polyester1.1182.933.288.5
Volkl V-Torque Tour 16 (1.30)Polyester1.318438.388.2
Weiss Cannon Mosquito Bite 18 (1.16)Polyester1.16182.335.487.8
Weiss Cannon Red Ghost 17L (1.18)Polyester1.18189.73487.2
Yonex Poly Tour Pro 17 (1.20)Polyester1.2188.633.387
Wow, game over. Cheers, this will give me a lot of candidates!
 

3virgul14

Rookie
Tourna Bhs7t has the best tension stability and it can match yptp in all areas I believe. Its easy to get 20 hours from the string with higher standarts.

playtest
 

happyandbob

Hall of Fame
Tourna Bhs7t has the best tension stability and it can match yptp in all areas I believe. Its easy to get 20 hours from the string with higher standarts.
the TWU db does show that BHS7T has much better tension maintenance (19 pct vs 46 pct) but it is much much stiffer than YPTP (238 for BHS7T 16g vs YPTP 17 at 181). it won't feel similar at all.
 

Angelface

New User
Since it will take some time to test this with only two racquets, I have decided to start with RS Lyon, Solinco Hyper-G Soft, Solinco Tour-bite Soft and Solinco Hyper-G, the latter is most likely to stiff for me, all in 1.25.
 

socallefty

Hall of Fame
No need to test HyperG if you test HyperG Soft. They are both very similar in performance, but HG Soft is more comfortable and lasts a bit longer before it goes dead.
 

smithie

Rookie
Thank you for the input, I'll put that on-hold then.
Likewise, I would hold off on tour bite as this will play similar to BHS7T rather than YPTP and will be the stiffest of that line up by quite a margin.

Tbh the only string out of that list which will have similar playing characterises to YPTP is RS Lyon so I would concentrate on that as the priority. It might also be worth giving both Kirschbaum Pro Line II & Signum Pro Poly Plasma a hit also - although as I mentioned before I've found RS Lyon to compare favourably to YPTP.
 

TomTennis495

Semi-Pro
I haven't tried RS Lyon, went to buy a pack and it's sold by TWE but not TW. First time buying from the TWE site, apparently you have to create a separate account. Learn new things every day!
That was an awesome chart! Do you have any others? do you find you feel on the court what the sheet states? curious what polys you like, if you play them.
 

happyandbob

Hall of Fame
That was an awesome chart! Do you have any others? do you find you feel on the court what the sheet states? curious what polys you like, if you play them.
It's all based on data I pulled from here: http://twu.tennis-warehouse.com/learning_center/reporter2.php

I found it to be a pretty good starting place for finding strings to try out. By and large, the strings behave the way that TW testing shows, but you really don't get a feel until you try it. Based on the numbers, Ultra Cable should be the best string going, but nobody seems to like it much. IME Ultra Cable feels funny at contact and a bit inconsistent with ball trajectory. It's also a pain in the tuchas to string.

There are a lot of numbers there, but the three I've found most reliable are Stiffness, Tension Loss Pct, and Energy Return Pct. Spin potential and the factors leading into that number sounded interesting at first but I've found some strings with lower "spin potential" in their DB (Hyper-G for example) to have more spin than some strings with higher "spin potential" (e.g. Diadem Elite XT or Gosen AK Control).

I've tried a lot of different polys. YMMV, but my three favorite right now are Hyper-G, RPM Rough (if I want something more muted with a lower launch angle), and Poly Tour Pro (if I want something a little softer and a higher launch angle). ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
 
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Injured Again

Hall of Fame
I playtested the 1.15 version of that string. Though I'm not normally not a round string user, in addition to some of the strings already mentioned I'd suggest trying Kirschbaum Proline Evolution at a low tension, or Diadem Flash at a slightly higher tension than PL Evolution.
 

jrmitch21

New User
Well, the new poly tour rev is very comfortable and plays very good until breaking. It does not seem to have that dropping off the cliff thing that many other strings have.
But as far as I know it's not on sale yet for the general public.
Contrary to Yonex's claims, it is not a spin monster even though it is shaped (unlike some people claim) but just an overall nice string.

It is firmed than PTP but doesn't feel firm.

Regarding wrist issues, have you tried stretching your forearm muscles? That saved my "life".
Agree with the Poly Tour Rev as I am liking it very much at the moment. Just purchased the new Vcore 98 so figured I would go with their recommendation of string to try out, I usually play with ALU Power, glad I tried the Poly Tour Rev as pockets nicely. Think I will keep to this string for at least a few rotations. I felt that I got plenty of spin from the strings.
 

FIRETennis

Professional
also, where would the lux element fall in with this chart? is it too soft to make the list?
Luxilon Element plays miles softer than the numbers. I would say it's comparable to Isospeed Cream without the weird metallic ping sound.
YPTP never felt soft to me, quite to opposite... plasticky and boardy feeling.
If you like Yonex, try Yonex Poly Tour Fire instead. Much more spin and softer than YPTP, but comes at a hefty price premium.
If you want the best of all worlds, do ALU mains, Element crosses. Absolutely dream all poly hybrid. I use it on clay. On hard, Wilson gut/Element crosses.
 
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