Stringing CAPPED Head Racquets

mars76

Rookie
Hi all,

I have a LM Prestige MP and recently i tried stringing it and while tying the finishing knot (i always use two piece method) for the crosses i couldn't insert the string into the 12B hole and i used a awl and it broke the main String.

So i tried to restring this racquet again and again i couldn't get the string through this whole and i don't want to try the awl and after few attempts i gave up on that hole and used a much higher crossing hole.

This is the strining pattern from klipperusa

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Racquet Name Tension Length Pattern Skip M Holes Tie Off M Start C Tie Off C
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LIQUID METAL PRESTIGE MP 52 - 62 21'M - 17'C 18M X 20C 8,10T - 9B 7B 8T 6T - 12B

I hope this will not have any impact on the structure of the frame.

I also strung my other non capped racquet (Radical Tyisys 260) and it was so easy when compared to CAPped one.!!!

thanks
 
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Irvin

Talk Tennis Guru
Seems like a lot of people have problems with capped grommets. I bend over and look for the easiest path through the grommet before I insert the stirng for tying off and I have never had a problem.
 

Irvin

Talk Tennis Guru
By the way here is another option that has always worked for me. Run in the bottom three crosses but do not tension them. Put the tail into 12B then tension the last three crosses and tie off. With no tension on the 18th cross it should be easy to get the tie off string in the hole.
 
Is it possible that it's this particular racquet/grommet combo? Had somewhat the exact same situation. Didn't break the string (luckily since it was Nat Gut), but tried everything until I had to resort to a pathfinder awl which I hate to use.

Often times on racquets I'll place a section of cut string in a cross when I know that a main is covering over a grommet hole but with these capped grommets you can't see this. And it doesn't appear that there are defined channels to guide the string to when stringing, and even if there is you can't see them anyway with these capped grommets.

Have wondered at times is a thin tube left like that on the pathfinder awl couldn't be substituted and then pulled thru once the string was thru. I know this shouldn't be necessary, but I've had this problem with some Head Racquets (Ti S6) w/Nat Gut as well very early on when I was learning and that time broke a string.
 

Fearsome Forehand

Professional
LIQUID METAL PRESTIGE MP 52 - 62 21'M - 17'C
18M X 20C 8,10T - 9B 7B 8T 6T - 12B


^ Is that right?
Correct is Skip 9 and 11 Bottom, 8 and 10 Top

just like all the other 18x20 Head MP (Pro Tour 280/630, etc.)

12B should be a cross string. Correct? How are you breaking a main?

Next time, just stick the awl in the grommet from the outside of the frame and leave it in there for awhile to stretch out the grommet. 12B is a good size grommet so it should be fairly each to use as a tie off. Tie off the mains at 7 Bottom/both sides and begin the crosses at 6 Top. Work the tie off (20th cross) string into 12B (I usually use a pair of needle nose pliers to push the string in), insert awl to hold tension and tie off on the 18th cross.

Not sure why you are breaking a main; which one? Sucks to get to the end and have it go horribly wrong. Wicked pissa, that. When I was first learning to string, I somehow went over one of the mounting supports (on a Czech crank, one of those weird yellow things) doing a cross. When I got done, I tried to remove the frame from the stringer and the mount came with it. I would have played the racket that way but it made the racket too head heavy on one side. :)

Another trick is to use the awl from the inside of 12B, push it all the way through until it protrudes on the outside and then slowly retract it while pushing in the tie off string from the outside. The string follows the opening created by the awl. If you don't use the awl, you are pushing a rope through a tight spot. Not going to work.


Strung quite a few cap rackets (50?) and never had a big problem. Putting in fresh caps can be a lot of fun though. :shock:
 
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Irvin

Talk Tennis Guru
...Often times on racquets I'll place a section of cut string in a cross when I know that a main is covering over a grommet hole but with these capped grommets you can't see this...

There isn't a string covering 12b that's why I don't see what the problem is.

LIQUID METAL PRESTIGE MP 52 - 62 21'M - 17'C
18M X 20C 8,10T - 9B 7B 8T 6T - 12B


^ Is that right?...


Yes that is right

...Correct is Skip 9 and 11 Bottom, 8 and 10 Top
just like all the other 18x20 Head MP (Pro Tour 280/630, etc.)...

No that is not right. If you skipped 9b and 11b you would have 10 mains on the bottom in grommet holes 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 10, & 12 bottom and no head racket does that. Usually an 18 main racket skips 8&10 or 9. 16 main rackets usually skip 7&9 or 8.

...Next time, just stick the awl in the grommet from the outside of the frame ...

Not good

...Not sure why you are breaking a main; which one? ...

Good question unless he went all the way through the grommet and nicked the outside main. I think he meant the cross string in 12b.
 

Fearsome Forehand

Professional
^ Sorry, Mr. Irvin, but you are wrong. The mains skip 9 and 11 bottom (throat), 8 and 10 top just like the Pro Tour 280/630.

The last main is 11 top and 10 throat (bottom). The 18th cross is 12 throat, 19th cross is 11 throat, the 20th cross is 9 throat. No main between 11 and 12 throat.

I have no idea what the poor OP is doing wrong. But, if he is trying to tie off on 12 without using an awl, well, good luck with that mission.

Unlike most of the people here, I usually know what I am talking (writing) about. Otherwise, I stay silent.

But, Merry Christmas anyway.:)
 
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oldtimer

New User
The correct skips for the LM Prestige MP and Pro Tour 280 are 9 Throat (Bottom) and 8,10 Head (Top). Fearsome - you are saying to skip 11 Throat (Bottom) but also saying the last main is 10 Throat (Bottom). Can't be a skip after the last main. You are right about the placement of the mains but wrong about the Throat (Bottom) Skip (11).
 

Fearsome Forehand

Professional
Jesus Christ!!! It is Christmas after all. :)

Yes, 11 bottom is not technically a skip because 10 bottom is the last main.
However, 11 is a cross nonetheless.

What a bunch of freakin' nitpicky old women in this section.

OP, do what I said to do and you will be good, dude. ;-)
 

nalvarado

Semi-Pro
Similar situation on a PT600. First time I busted it with an awl, second and third times I used a piece of scrap poly as an awl and followed it through. Takes a bit of fiddling but it will word eventually.
 

Irvin

Talk Tennis Guru
Getting back to the Op's problem since 12b is not a blocked hole what string are you using? Is it a thick string like Forten Nylon? You should not need anything to open the grommet path up.
 
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fortun8son

Hall of Fame
FYI: Per Stringer's Digest
The LM Prestige Mid skips 8, 10 throat and 8,10 head. X ties off at 6 head,5 throat.
The LM Prestige MP skips 9 throat and 8, 10 head. X ties off at 6 head and 12 throat
However, it is possible that you have a reissue with a different pattern.
Merry Xmas
 
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Irvin

Talk Tennis Guru
Hi all,

I have a LM Prestige MP ...

FYI: Per Stringer's Digest
The LM Prestige Mid skips 8, 10 throat and 8,10 head. X ties off at 6 head,5 throat.
The LM Prestige MP skips 9 throat and 8, 10 head. X ties off at 6 head and 12 throat
However, it is possible that you have a reissue with a different pattern.
Merry Xmas

I'm pretty sure everyone agrees this is correct.
 

fortun8son

Hall of Fame
Pattern issues aside, there should not be a problem getting the string through the hole as long as it has a sharp point.
I do the same as Irvin. I just get down at eye level and locate the hole.
It can go sideways and get lost in the cap if you don't go straight in.
If it is a soft string, a small dab of super glue on the tip will keep it from getting crushed and then a little patience and a bent nose pliers (and maybe a little wax) does the job.
With thicker gauge or really soft strings, it might be well to enlarge that grommet with the awl PRIOR to stringing.
Setting the turntable brake ( if you have one) can help, too.
 
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mars76

Rookie
Hi,

Thanks so much for all the suggestions.

I will be stringing my PT280 MP (i am planning to CAP it) and it has similar String patterns as LM Prestige MP.

will post back my findings..

thanks
 

zapvor

G.O.A.T.
Hi all,

I have a LM Prestige MP and recently i tried stringing it and while tying the finishing knot (i always use two piece method) for the crosses i couldn't insert the string into the 12B hole and i used a awl and it broke the main String.

So i tried to restring this racquet again and again i couldn't get the string through this whole and i don't want to try the awl and after few attempts i gave up on that hole and used a much higher crossing hole.

This is the strining pattern from klipperusa

===========================================================================================
Racquet Name Tension Length Pattern Skip M Holes Tie Off M Start C Tie Off C
===========================================================================================
LIQUID METAL PRESTIGE MP 52 - 62 21'M - 17'C 18M X 20C 8,10T - 9B 7B 8T 6T - 12B

I hope this will not have any impact on the structure of the frame.

I also strung my other non capped racquet (Radical Tyisys 260) and it was so easy when compared to CAPped one.!!!

thanks

i think you should just give me your prestige :p

seriously though yea the Caps a a bit tougher but experience will teach you more than anything else. what i usually do is use the plier to edge the string in little at a time until i can get it past. it helps too if you cut the string at a sharp angle
 
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