STRINGING LOGS

If you are starting one, I strung a Babolat Pure Aero, using an ATW pattern, with 34' of Babolat RPM Blast 16. If you're counting inches, I could have probably used 4-6" less.
 

jim e

Legend
Massive number of racquets being used.The amount of string needed say for one specific racquet will vary depending on string used as some strings will stretch more than others, and machines vary as distance to tension head will vary so, what would be ideal on one machine would be short on another. If you use a starting clamp to start crosses, you will need more string than someone using a starting knot, so technique will effect amount of string needed as well.
This is why in my opinion why the USRSA digest that lists string lengths for each racquet is very generous with those numbers so no one would be short.
Join the USRSA and you will get their " Digest "and you would have a general guideline on lengths to use, with just about every racquet in use,then you can adjust to your string and machine.
There is your log book that you are looking for.
The "Digest " also lists the racquet pattern, string lengths needed, recommended tensions, and any special instructions. If your racquet is by chance not listed, you can call them, speak to a racquet technician and get the pattern you are looking for.
The USRSA is a great organization, and gives credibility to the craft.
 
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Massive number of racquets being used.The amount of string needed say for one specific racquet will vary depending on string used as some strings will stretch more than others, and machines vary as distance to tension head will vary so, what would be ideal on one machine would be short on another. If you use a starting clamp to start crosses, you will need more string than someone using a starting knot, so technique will effect amount of string needed as well.
This is why in my opinion why the USRSA digest that lists string lengths for each racquet is very generous with those numbers so no one would be short.
Join the USRSA and you will get their " Digest "and you would have a general guideline on lengths to use, with just about every racquet in use,then you can adjust to your string and machine.
There is your log book that you are looking for.
The "Digest " also lists the racquet pattern, string lengths needed, recommended tensions, and any special instructions. If your racquet is by chance not listed, you can call them, speak to a racquet technician and get the pattern you are looking for.
The USRSA is a great organization, and gives credibility to the craft.
Would that be any different to the Klippermate website?
 

jim e

Legend
Would that be any different to the Klippermate website?
Well I never seen klipper site as no need to with digest. All I can say is digest is very complete, and I was told follow manufacturer guidelines. The digest is typically updated rather fast as it is available online as well.If I get a frame I'm not familiar with, it is there in digest.
 
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jim e

Legend
KM site uses data supplied by USRSA.
I know a couple times in past a poster here posted a questionable pattern from klipper site and when I looked it up in the digest, it was different , I guess they must have been transcription errors.
 
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Wes

Professional
Would that be any different to the Klippermate website?

Typically, the information is the same in both places, but not always.
Furthermore, I've seen errors/mistakes in both sources (as well as on manufacturers' own websites/PDFs).

This is why it's best to be able (learn) to discern the relevant information on your own. and not rely too much on other sources.
Many people get themselves into quite a pickle by counting on the (bad) information that they've located (and then assumed that it was correct).

Think of it this way...
You already know how to discern (without looking anything up) whether a racquet's mains need to be started at the Head of the frame, or at the Throat of the frame, correct?

Well, other relevant information can be deduced as well - by actually looking at the racquet and, more importantly, the grommets/holes.
- The grommets which need to be skipped (or shared) can be determined (much like determining where the mains need to start).
- Same thing can be said for determining where the tie-off grommets are going to be located.
- You can typically even determine what pattern an unstrung racquet is supposed to have once it's completed (16x18, 16x19, 16x20, 18x19, 18x20 etc.)

Of course, string lengths are the element which are trickier to nail (but there are ways to do that as well).

If/when you start keeping your own stringing log, you will then have frames to use as a reference point/guide for determining what string lengths you should use on a different frame.


Furthermore...
Probably more than 95% of all modern racquets fall into one of 8 configurations, so it's really not that hard to recognize something sitting in front of you, if it falls into one of these 8 permutations.
Now, if/when someone brings you a racquet that is a bit out of the ordinary (say, a racquet with fan-shaped mains that skips 4 or 5 grommets at the Head, but skips zero or only 1 grommet at the Throat), then you may need to look something up.
 

alexmcnab

Rookie
I don't undertand why there aren't more Digests for sale on the auction sites.
What do people do with their old ones?
 

jim e

Legend
I don't undertand why there aren't more Digests for sale on the auction sites.
What do people do with their old ones?
I don't understand why stringers don't just join the USRSA, as not all that expensive, and if it's too much $ then just up your fees $1.00 / labor, and you will way more than recoup the fee.If you lost any customers from a $1.00 increase, then your best not stringing for them anyway, as they are the people that want to know the cost of everything, and the value of nothing.
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am1899

Hall of Fame
I don't understand why stringers don't just join the USRSA, as not all that expensive, and if it's too much $ then just up your fees $1.00 / labor, and you will way more than recoup the fee.
I suspect part of it is the digital age - nowadays people can look for stringing patterns on the Internet, free of charge.

I will also say though that, if true, that story about USRSA forcing that guy to take his app down is a bit troubling to me. I don’t see how USRSA could claim ownership of such information. But hey, I’m no lawyer (thank God! :cool:), so what do I know?
 

jim e

Legend
I suspect part of it is the digital age - nowadays people can look for stringing patterns on the Internet, free of charge.
Not all patterns are there. One time I had a local stringer that knew I strung, and that I was a member, and asked me for the string pattern of a new released Wilson racquet. He said he went on manufacturer web site and couldn't find it. I went online on the USRSA digest and it was there.The racquet was just released for sale and was already posted on the web site of the USRSA.
Another time I received a racquet to string was not in digest, so I called USRSA and was given the pattern without any issues.
All in the eyes of the beholder I guess.
Plus the organization gives credibility to the craft.
 
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USMC-615

Semi-Pro
This might be the silly question of the day…have the digests ever been or are they actual print, or just files from the USRSA site?
 

jim e

Legend
We get a printed version once a year, with supplements later for added new racquets.
Plus they are online, and the online list is updated as soon as a new racquet is released.
 

Dags

Hall of Fame
I will also say though that, if true, that story about USRSA forcing that guy to take his app down is a bit troubling to me. I don’t see how USRSA could claim ownership of such information. But hey, I’m no lawyer (thank God! :cool:), so what do I know?
It was a website rather than an app, but it did happen. Here is the thread explaining it:

 

am1899

Hall of Fame
It was a website rather than an app, but it did happen. Here is the thread explaining it:

Wow, thanks for posting @Dags.

I mean…pretty obvious why USRSA did what they did. Still beats me how USRSA owns this information. Shrug.
 

Irvin

Talk Tennis Guru
Wow, thanks for posting @Dags.

I mean…pretty obvious why USRSA did what they did. Still beats me how USRSA owns this information. Shrug.
Just because a lawyer sends you a letter saying the own that information and you can’t use it does not make it so.
 

esm

Hall of Fame
Just because a lawyer sends you a letter saying the own that information and you can’t use it does not make it so.
maybe - it may also depends on how much effort/money you are willing to engage the said lawyer/court proceedings...
 

Irvin

Talk Tennis Guru
maybe - it may also depends on how much effort/money you are willing to engage the said lawyer/court proceedings...
Correct and the lawyers know that. Who ever it was that developed that app was not willing to put up a fight so he just backed off. I searched for that thread but couldn’t find it.
 
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USMC-615

Semi-Pro
Need a little help and this stringing pattern may have to be dug up from deep in the ol’ stringing archives, lol. Need a pattern for a NOS, never strung before Rossignol GW200...wooden racket with all graphite face both sides. The racquet is identical in every respect to the wooden Kennex Golden Ace with Boron face both sides, of the same era. It looks like the Golden Ace pattern will work as best as I’m comparing/following holes, but just wanna make sure.

If anyone has any insight, would be appreciated.
 

alexmcnab

Rookie
I don't understand why stringers don't just join the USRSA, as not all that expensive, and if it's too much $ then just up your fees $1.00 / labor, and you will way more than recoup the fee.If you lost any customers from a $1.00 increase, then your best not stringing for them anyway, as they are the people that want to know the cost of everything, and the value of nothing.
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What a strange response. I don't have a need for all their other services but I would like to buy a copy of the digest. Presumably members have a big box or shelf full of old copies they will never use again or they put them out to be recycled? I see a few for sale on the bay but hey are mostly more than 10 years old. I don't think that is an unreasonable position but if you'd rather keep them as a collection, that's fine too and I'll say no more.
 
What a strange response. I don't have a need for all their other services but I would like to buy a copy of the digest. Presumably members have a big box or shelf full of old copies they will never use again or they put them out to be recycled? I see a few for sale on the bay but hey are mostly more than 10 years old. I don't think that is an unreasonable position but if you'd rather keep them as a collection, that's fine too and I'll say no more.
I did have about 20 years worth of them, but threw them all out when we moved. Oh well.

As for the Golden Ace, it has a 16 x 19 pattern, skip the 8th at the head and throat (not looking at it, but 99% sure as I used it for several years). The older, non boron face had a short side and a long side, but the boron faced one didn't.
 
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