strings breaking help please!!

aer0pr0

Rookie
my rackets are constantly breaking the string in the upper right corner near the grommet!!!

i "could" say that maybe the babolat grommets were old but the rf97 is 2 weeks old! so i think its too much of a coincidence, 3 rackets in the same spot all at once!!

how can this be possible?? i usualy break the strings in the middle after 5 or 6 hours of play, but this way they are lasting half an hour!!!

i string them at the tennis shop in my town, can it be the stringers fault?? what should i tell him?

these are tecnifibre razor code strings, they are not cheap, im really worried and dont know what to do, help please



 

darklore009

Hall of Fame
if it happened to 3 rackets, i would say it your swinging mechanics. hitting around that area is prone of breaking (shanking is the term in mind)
 

1HBHfanatic

Hall of Fame
When does it happen?. On what shot?
Forhand? Backhand? Return?
These look like shanks..
You can also ask for a 2pc hybrid with ticker mains nxt time u string
Say, thicker.mains/thinner crosses..
 

AHJS

Professional
Either a stringing mistakes or shanking. Most likely shanking. Nothing to do with the strings I don't believe.
 

Markis82

New User
Most likely a shank. However, all of those breaks look like they could be on the outside of the frame. In each case, the main that broke has a cross string hole right next to it. If your stringer pulls the slack string thru too quick and rubs the area of string between the 2 mains on the outside of the frame, that area of string can easily get damaged (sawed thru or notched), making a very weak spot which pops when the racquet is used. I would look and feel very carefully at the string, at the break point to see if there is any evidence of a notch or sawing. Also look at the other side at that same same spot of the racquet to see if that area of the string between the same 2 mains on the other side, on the outside of the frame has a notch or sawing evident. If so, it is the stringers fault.
 

aer0pr0

Rookie
thanks for the help people

i will try the suggestion 2 pieces of string, thicker in the mains, the ones im using are gauge 1,25 , gonna try 1,30 on mains.

they were sort of shanks, they were off center shots , but still inside the string bed.. and they were supposed to be heavy balls

today happened on a return of serve, fast serve which i tried to attack the ball

i checked the strings and they dont seem damaged or "sawed off" so maybe it is just my fault :(

this didnt happened before and my technique hasnt changed, so this must be only a terrific coincidence..

i will try the restringing with thicker mains and come back here to post if it worked out

again thanks a lot people :);-)
from portugal, europe
 
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mikeler

Moderator
Some polys are prone to shanks near the hoop. Razor Code was not one of the polys I had problems with though.
 

Irvin

Talk Tennis Guru
You know I would normally say that is shanking but looking a little closer I see some more commonalities. Shanking probably has a lot to do with the problem because there are notches in the outer mains indicating off center hits, but let's look at the commonalities:

  1. All three rackets were 16x19 rackets that start in the throat so mains end in throat and the top cross knot was not near the brake
  2. All three rackets were strung one piece bottom up and not with an ATW or two piece
  3. All three brakes were near the 7th main turn to the 8th main on the long side of the rackets. If that is your technique's fault you are probably the 1 in a billion that can break the same string in the same place in three different rackets. So give yourself a big pat on the back

Mighty peculiar if you ask me. I have been told (along with everyone else) that stringing a racket from the bottom up puts more pressure on the top of the frame as the pressure builds up in the direction of the stringing. I have been told that many people have been stringing one piece for years and never had a problem. So for sure the one piece string job can't be causing the problem could it?

I have been told by the Babolat, and Wilson that although one piece bottom up is allowed but they prefer one piece. Many grand slam stringers string one piece but should they?

For for the heck of it ask your stringer to string the rackets with 2 piece or 4 knots and see what happens. It won't cost you any more and it will give you piece of mind about the issue of 1 piece Vs 2 piece and settle a debate that has gone on for decades. You have nothing to loose. If you get it strung 2 piece come back and let me know what happened.

EDIT: To be honest you may still break strings due to shanking if you try two piece but maybe they could last a little longer saving you money and you will go a long way in determining if 1 piece or 2 piece is better.

EDIT: This thread really needs to be in the Stringing forum and not the strings forum.
 
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1HBHfanatic

Hall of Fame
on another post, someone mentioned something that made me think of your issue, "stringing without adding extra lbs to the last strings, prior to the tie knot";
adding extra lbs to the end strings right before you tie the knot is common practise for alot of stringers,, i personaly add 5lbs, in your case i would reconsider.. (explained below)..

ALOT OF OTHER STRINGERS DONT ADD LBS!!(they call it common practise also; had to mention it to not get flack from the above mentioned), :)

this topic is heavily devated for various reasons..

since this is happening towards the ends of the racquet.
i would ask the stringer not to add extra lbs to the last string tension. if he does, this will give the end strings a bit more ellasticity to absort some of the shanks..
 
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Irvin

Talk Tennis Guru
on another post, someone mentioned something that made me think of your issue, "stringing without adding extra lbs to the last strings, prior to the tie knot";
adding extra lbs to the end strings right before you tie the knot is common practise for alot of stringers,, i personaly add 5lbs, in your case i would reconsider.. (explained below)..

ALOT OF OTHER STRINGERS DONT ADD LBS!!(they call it common practise also; had to mention it to not get flack from the above mentioned), :)

this topic is heavily devated for various reasons..

since this is happening towards the ends of the racquet.
i would ask the stringer not to add extra lbs to the last string tension. if he does, this will give the end strings a bit more ellasticity to absort some of the shanks..
OTOH shearing is caused by striking the ball too close to the frame. When the ball hits near the edge of the frame it causes the string to bend at a sharper angle than is the ball were struck in the middle of the stringbed. Lowering tension may enable the string to bend even more on off center hits and increase the chance of shear. But it makes sense that lowering tension may reduce shear too I wonder if anyone that's lowered tension seen less shearing?
 

Rabbit

G.O.A.T.
did they all break at the knot? If so, it's likely the stringer exerted too much force when tying off. Either that or over clamped the string -- the clamps were set way too tight.
 

Rjtennis

Hall of Fame
I would try lowing the tension on the first few crosses and switching to a thicker gauge. Ive had few friends who kept shearing poly in the top loop and those too things heavily reduced the issue. Both of them hit with a lot of racket head speed and string their sticks fully poly around 60 lbs.
 

jim e

Legend
Most likely a shank. However, all of those breaks look like they could be on the outside of the frame. In each case, the main that broke has a cross string hole right next to it. If your stringer pulls the slack string thru too quick and rubs the area of string between the 2 mains on the outside of the frame, that area of string can easily get damaged (sawed thru or notched), making a very weak spot which pops when the racquet is used. I would look and feel very carefully at the string, at the break point to see if there is any evidence of a notch or sawing. Also look at the other side at that same same spot of the racquet to see if that area of the string between the same 2 mains on the other side, on the outside of the frame has a notch or sawing evident. If so, it is the stringers fault.
Look at the picture of the two racquets close up shot. It shows the break not at the area where the cross string would contact the main when the cross is pulled through. as the break is higher up the grommet where the 7th main exits on both racquets, so it could not be from pulling slack too quickly.
It probably would not hurt to put a small piece of Teflon tubing in this region on these racquets at next stringing.
 
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6ahmet1

New User
some of the luxilon strings have cracks inside. If you string all three rackets from the same reel may be this is the case. check the string carefully before stringing by rolling it inside and out.
 
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