Discussion in 'Strings' started by Tennusdude, Jan 19, 2013.
Which strings are just as easy on the arm as Natural Gut?
Please help, thanks
Mantis Comfort Synthetic if you don't mind a string that breaks in 3-5 hours.
Tecnifibre X-1 Biphase. I use the 17g version.
This one is the softest. Babolat Xcel and Pro Supex Maxim Touch 17g round out my top 3 softest strings.
Maxim Touch is real crap IMHO.
How long does the biphase realistically last in a Babolat Pure Drive 100 when used as a full bed?
I tried to use it as cross string with Tour Bite in Mains and it lasted 2 days.
17g multis won't last long if you are a string breaker.
2 days???? it dosen't say much
reporting number of hours played is better
I believe most people would want string to last more than two days worth of playing And realistically how many hours can somebody play in two days?
maybe 6 at most.
As easy on the arm as natural gut? You may not want to hear this, but it's going to natural gut.
Premium multi's like NRG2 or Bi-Phase are a distant 2nd unfortunately.
Plus you can get high sniffing the chemicals . Aside from X1, NRG2, Xcel Power, I vote for Kirschbaum Multi Touch, an underrated multi that is second only to X1.
I'd suggest being willing to give 16g a try and go with Gamma Professional. Even the 16g version of it is softer feeling than any of the other 17g strings that were suggested so far.
Xcel Comfort, very soft
Gamma Asterisk is also pretty soft.
Am wondering how much time does a full bed of natural gut last compared to a multi under similar playing conditions?
For me, natural gut lasts about 2x as long as the most durable multis (ex. PPA, RIP Control) and 3-4x as long as multis that are average or below in durability (ex. NXT, MCS). Plus, natural gut is strong enough not to break prematurely on one of my shanks. Your mileage may vary depending on your style of play and your racquet.
I had Mantis Comfort and Wilson natural gut 16 in two of my rackets at the same time. The softness is the same but the power level of the gut is way higher especially considering that Mantis Comfort is very low powered.
Natural gut lasts as long for as the most durable multis.
Strings that are easy on the arm AND durable? That will be tough to find; probably Head RIP Control 16, or Intellitour 16. Soft and durable, with a dead feel and low power.
Honestly, the Pure Drive is not going to be easy on the arm, and any string choice is not going to change that fact too much. Plus a soft string in that racquet is going to break fast.
The best thing for the arm are racquets that are over 11.5 oz and with a flex around 63 or less.
I've tried full gut in stiffer racquets that are 65+ flex and it still bothered my arm, while I can put full poly in my 58 flex racquet and not have any issues.
Having tinkered with every possible string type and hybrid, over the span of multiple frames with varying string patterns and stiffnesses, I have found that racquet stiffness and weight are going to affect arm health more noticeably than string type. Changing string type has more effect on ball trajectory and ball feel.
Just my 2c
Where I live several people hit 8 hours in two days ( 2 in the morning and 2 in the evening each day) or even more....
Then MCS will last 1 day of hitting. I break it in about 2 hours of drilling. Match play I could most likely get a match and a half to two if I'm lucky. :razz:
I see in your signature you have 5 racquets...
way to go for string breakers
Comfort is mostly subjective. For RSI stiffness, there's no comparison to natural gut, but then again I disagree with many of the RSI numbers.
Subjectively, I thought MCS was softer than Klip Legend. Pacific Classic was a closer comparison. I'll give the edge in softness to Pacific Classic, but not by much.
That's a very good point. Comfort is mostly subjective. For synthetics, I find Head RIP Control to be as comfortable (if not more) than those premium multis. Then natural gut blows everything out the water.
Pretty much the only way to go. I usually only bring a pair of sticks to practice, but for tournaments I'll have all 5 strung up the same just for my sanity.
I'm using a poly/syngut hybrid, in a pretty dense 18x20 pattern. I don't break nearly as much as I do with open patterns. That being said though I get roughly 8 hours of a string job. I rotate my sticks so that I'm not constantly restringing. Every hour of play I try to remember to switch out my racket so that I'm getting 40 hours (sometimes more or less) of play before breaks/restringing. It works out pretty well for myself at least!
MCS or Pro's Pro Hitec Multifibre is about as soft as it gets.
Low-powered and somewhat fragile.
At least in open patterns.
I'd not skip a beat putting it in a Prestige or Radical, or any other 18M tight pattern frame.
Yep, agreed, MCS in a 90, 18X20, for a flatter hitter is feel and joint nirvana. Btw, a hybrid of MCS and Head Fibergel in the crosses is delicious - a softer yet dynamic feel as the Head settles in...
Interesting, I found RIP Control to be a little bit on the stiffer side for a multi. Natural gut may feel better than MCS to some just because you can hit the same ball with much less effort due to the high power level.
Mik- what are your thoughts on prince premier w/ softflex?
Also, what about K-gut?
^^^ Have not tried either of those strings...yet.
K-Gut was stiff as all heck when I tried it last year...
Mantis Comfort Synthetic is about as comfortable as one can get next to gut. Even more, because it isn't so high powered, you can get away with lower tensions making it even more arm friendly. I tried it at 23kg or about 51 lbs in a PK Ki 315 and it played just fine. 24kg or 53lbs is perfect for me.
I actually liked K-Gut quite a bit. I wouldn't say it's stiff, but a comfortable crispy string.
Still though, I think no synthetic come close to gut.
Agreed. Stay far, far away from K-Gut if you're looking for a string that's easy on the arm. It's VERY stiff for a multi. Even stiffer is K-Gut Pro. Run as fast and as far away as you can from K-Gut Pro if you want an arm-friendly string. I thought it was stiffer than some polys and it gave me tennis elbow very quickly even as just a cross with a soft multi main.
BP, correct me if I am mistaken, but didnt Wilson discontinue all K-Gut production???
If you need a soft string that is durable you may want to try Tec TGV16 or NRG16. We use that string here when players have arm issues as they are very shock absorbent. Durability is good due to the thicker gauge (1.32mm)
I believe so...
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