Struggling With Power On 360 Speed Pro. Should I Switch ?

#1
I am using Head 360 Speed Pro right now. I am struggling with power with this racquet.
Tried Dunlop Black Widow 18 @55. And Head Lynx 17 @52. I get better power with Black Widow. But not enough.

I've tried several friends racquet.
1. Head Youtek Graphene Extreme MP.
2. Head Graphene Touch Extreme MP.
3. Wilson 97. Forgot the model. Weight around 310-ish.
4. Old Yonex Titanium 400-SP. Heavy.

I don't have any problem with power when using this 4 racquet. Although i am a bit struggling on serve with Yonex Titanium 400-SP.

Perhaps probably because of the string pattern ? All 4 of those racquets have 16x19. While Speed Pro have 18x20.

Should i switch ?
 
#4
Try lowering tension to mid-40's and add 3g of lead at 12 O'Clock on the head, that should add some power
Good idea, suggest though you try one of these at a time until you arrive at a place that suits you. Easier to evaluate one variable at a time. I’d start with the string tension. Else 1g at a time.

You’ll probably not know exactly what tension the strings are currently at in those other racquets as they all change over time and will often make a big difference.

Could try the RacquetTune app as it’ll be able to show you your current tension and track it as it changes. Useful in dialling in your preferred string and tension on a particular racquet.


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#5
The 360 is not a powerful racket. 18x20 patterns are not powerful patterns.

Do you want more power? Do you really need more power?

If so, yeah, you should probably switch.

Is your 360 in good condition? Will you ship to US? ,)
 
#6
launch angle of dense 18x20 is lower.
so one might think its power is lower than it actually is.
some adjust easily switching from open 16x19 or 16x18 to 18x20 but some need more time.
 
#7
Try lowering tension to mid-40's and add 3g of lead at 12 O'Clock on the head, that should add some power
drop tension to the 40's. When I switch from APD 2013 to SV95 I decreased tension every string job until I made my way down from 52 to 47/44.
If i drop tension, will it affect playability ? Especially against heavy hitters.

The 360 is not a powerful racket. 18x20 patterns are not powerful patterns.

Do you want more power? Do you really need more power?

If so, yeah, you should probably switch.

Is your 360 in good condition? Will you ship to US? ,)
Hahaha. Sorry, i can't. The shipping cost is expensive. Best you buy it here from TW instead. :D

launch angle of dense 18x20 is lower.
so one might think its power is lower than it actually is.
some adjust easily switching from open 16x19 or 16x18 to 18x20 but some need more time.
YES ! That's one of my struggle. The launch angle. It's low that my ball not reaching the baseline. Like i used to when playing with any 16x19 racquet.

Also, on defense, I can't counter like i can with 16x19 racquet.

And stability issue. I feel either Extreme MP and Titanium 400-SP is more stable. Especially against heavy hitters.
 
#8
The Head Ectreme mp has ample powers but feels quite harsh to me and it sought of feels like they got the TI S6 and adapted it with its snow shoe design.
If you want some more power, why not try the Violkl V Feel 8 315. It's got a 16/18 pattern and it's a rocket ship.
 
#9
So it's not power (ball speed) but depth?

You can try to increase the main/cross string tension and see if that helps before switching racquet. Try keeping main at 55 while dropping cross to 50 or 48.
 
#10
If i drop tension, will it affect playability ? Especially against heavy hitters.



Hahaha. Sorry, i can't. The shipping cost is expensive. Best you buy it here from TW instead. :D



YES ! That's one of my struggle. The launch angle. It's low that my ball not reaching the baseline. Like i used to when playing with any 16x19 racquet.

Also, on defense, I can't counter like i can with 16x19 racquet.

And stability issue. I feel either Extreme MP and Titanium 400-SP is more stable. Especially against heavy hitters.
Less tension with thinner string = more launch angle
More weight on the loop, also more launch angle (plus stability)

It's not very complicated. Just try it.
 
#11
I am using Head 360 Speed Pro right now. I am struggling with power with this racquet.
Tried Dunlop Black Widow 18 @55. And Head Lynx 17 @52. I get better power with Black Widow. But not enough.

I've tried several friends racquet.
1. Head Youtek Graphene Extreme MP.
2. Head Graphene Touch Extreme MP.
3. Wilson 97. Forgot the model. Weight around 310-ish.
4. Old Yonex Titanium 400-SP. Heavy.

I don't have any problem with power when using this 4 racquet. Although i am a bit struggling on serve with Yonex Titanium 400-SP.

Perhaps probably because of the string pattern ? All 4 of those racquets have 16x19. While Speed Pro have 18x20.

Should i switch ?
Yeah
 
#15
I am using Head 360 Speed Pro right now. I am struggling with power with this racquet.
Tried Dunlop Black Widow 18 @55. And Head Lynx 17 @52. I get better power with Black Widow. But not enough.

I've tried several friends racquet.
1. Head Youtek Graphene Extreme MP.
2. Head Graphene Touch Extreme MP.
3. Wilson 97. Forgot the model. Weight around 310-ish.
4. Old Yonex Titanium 400-SP. Heavy.

I don't have any problem with power when using this 4 racquet. Although i am a bit struggling on serve with Yonex Titanium 400-SP.

Perhaps probably because of the string pattern ? All 4 of those racquets have 16x19. While Speed Pro have 18x20.

Should i switch ?
Are you married to those strings?

Have you tried the 360 MP?

Are you happy with the 360 Pro other than power?

Are you married to those tensions?

All questions to ask before you move on to other models.
 
#16
If i drop tension, will it affect playability ? Especially against heavy hitters.



Hahaha. Sorry, i can't. The shipping cost is expensive. Best you buy it here from TW instead. :D



YES ! That's one of my struggle. The launch angle. It's low that my ball not reaching the baseline. Like i used to when playing with any 16x19 racquet.

Also, on defense, I can't counter like i can with 16x19 racquet.

And stability issue. I feel either Extreme MP and Titanium 400-SP is more stable. Especially against heavy hitters.
You shouldn't have any issues with playability by lowering the tension. A point a failed to articulate is that when I went to a denser pattern (16x19 and 100sqin head to 16x20 and 95sqin), I lower the tension to help compensate, I play college tennis in Canada with and few ex-D1 players and it hold up find. Even adds a little more comfort if I catch one of their harder balls late.
 
#17
If i drop tension, will it affect playability ? Especially against heavy hitters.



Hahaha. Sorry, i can't. The shipping cost is expensive. Best you buy it here from TW instead. :D



YES ! That's one of my struggle. The launch angle. It's low that my ball not reaching the baseline. Like i used to when playing with any 16x19 racquet.

Also, on defense, I can't counter like i can with 16x19 racquet.

And stability issue. I feel either Extreme MP and Titanium 400-SP is more stable. Especially against heavy hitters.
You will have higher confidence in controlling with 18x20. So you will hit out with more confidence.
 
#22
As others have suggested.
1. Lower string tension
2. If not enough power after lowering tension try a synthetic gut or multi.

No need to purchase another racket unless your wanting to for fun.
 
#28
I would recommend switching away from the Speed Pro
Because?

Power failure is probably the worst reason to switch rackets since so much can be done to alter a racket and get extra power. What can't be done is soften a racket up. So if the Speed Pro is comfortable it makes much more sense to customize and see if you can boost power levels that way before trash binning a $200 frame.

Lots of good advice. Go Black Widow at 45 and see how it goes. Lots of pros with low tension poly and they can control the ball just fine.
 
#29
It sounds like he’s tried it for awhile and doesn’t feel like it has enough power. And even though Head has widened the 360 stringbed “slightly”, its still denser than most others. There’s so many more powerful racquets out there. His original post sounds half-hearted and trolling anyway. He’s already decided to switch.
 
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#30
It sounds like he’s tried it for awhile and doesn’t feel like it has enough power. And even though Head has widened the 360 stringbed “slightly”, its still denser than most others. There’s so many more powerful racquets out there. His original post sounds half-hearted and trolling anyway. He’s already decided to switch.
I guess. But its so sad when someone gives up so quickly.
Power should comes from technique and being seduced by "easy mode" power frames like the Extreme likely will curtail development of good form. If you struggle with power in a racket you really should endeavor to learn how to create your own power. Trying to fix serious deficiencies in technique with a racket is something I'm never fond of recommending. To me, its far better for someone to use powerful "game improvement" frames only until they reach 3.5. Then moving to a players frame to help them refine their technique would be my strategy to get better. But I'm a process oriented guy rather than a results oriented player.
 
#31
I guess. But its so sad when someone gives up so quickly.
Power should comes from technique and being seduced by "easy mode" power frames like the Extreme likely will curtail development of good form. If you struggle with power in a racket you really should endeavor to learn how to create your own power. Trying to fix serious deficiencies in technique with a racket is something I'm never fond of recommending. To me, its far better for someone to use powerful "game improvement" frames only until they reach 3.5. Then moving to a players frame to help them refine their technique would be my strategy to get better. But I'm a process oriented guy rather than a results oriented player.
Agree with all of this. That's why I suggested posting a short video. One can generate all power needed with this racquet. Here to help. It's a solid frame.
 
#32
I guess. But its so sad when someone gives up so quickly.
Power should comes from technique and being seduced by "easy mode" power frames like the Extreme likely will curtail development of good form. If you struggle with power in a racket you really should endeavor to learn how to create your own power. Trying to fix serious deficiencies in technique with a racket is something I'm never fond of recommending. To me, its far better for someone to use powerful "game improvement" frames only until they reach 3.5. Then moving to a players frame to help them refine their technique would be my strategy to get better. But I'm a process oriented guy rather than a results oriented player.
Yeah, I agree, but we’re all lazy and usually don’t put in the time to adjust to a lower powered racquet, even though our game would improve. Actually, if it was any other racquet I would suggest he stay with it and work on his technique. :)
 
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#33
It is a flexible racquet with an 18 x 20 string pattern. The entire concept of the racquet is CONTROL.

You need power!? Change strings and TENSION.

I play with this racquet with a Gut / Poly hybrid strung at 38/35 and I have a near perfect balance of control and power.


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#34
So i ended up with Yonex PolyTour Air 17 @47/45. Better power. But not quite enough. Will try black widow or cyclone at 43/41 next time.

Other issue i notice on this racquet is it's bit lack of stability and plowthrough.

Experimented with lead, 3gr at 12, 2 gr each at 3 and 9. 7gr total. Wow ! What a difference i feel on power and stability. But the racquet identity as speed kinda vanished, it feels sluggish.

So i ended up with 1gr lead on 3, 9 and 12. 3gr total. Make quite noticable different in power and stability. But still swing fast.
 
#36
So i ended up with Yonex PolyTour Air 17 @47/45. Better power. But not quite enough. Will try black widow or cyclone at 43/41 next time.

Other issue i notice on this racquet is it's bit lack of stability and plowthrough.

Experimented with lead, 3gr at 12, 2 gr each at 3 and 9. 7gr total. Wow ! What a difference i feel on power and stability. But the racquet identity as speed kinda vanished, it feels sluggish.

So i ended up with 1gr lead on 3, 9 and 12. 3gr total. Make quite noticable different in power and stability. But still swing fast.
You need to be very careful with weighting up the racket so that you don’t change the swing weight and head balance enough where it becomes something else completely different. A little goes a long way.


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#37
As others have suggested.
1. Lower string tension
2. If not enough power after lowering tension try a synthetic gut or multi.

No need to purchase another racket unless your wanting to for fun.
2. If not enough power after lowering tension try lowering tension some more.
 
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