Strung racket, wrong grommet hole..

Kam2010

Rookie
So I have strung a Babolat Roland Garros GT racket, and like a muppet I done it as 2 piece and then realised half way down that I have strung it slightly wrong.

I will upload a picture if required so the grommets on this racket is not the other babolat aeropro drives that I have this will want you to specifically start on one side for the starting knot which like an idiot I didn't see it and strung it as I would normally do my own aeropro rackets..

So as I have strung I think it should not have any structural affect to the rackets at all but only issue is potentially string breakage on the outer part, I am going to show the person I strung it for and to suggest if the racket string breaks on the outer frame I will restring it for free, or I normally charge a tenner for a restring I can just charge him £5 instead either way, what you reckon?

Thanks

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Irvin

Talk Tennis Guru
If the strings are not laying down in the grooves where they should be string it over again. I start my crosses going up in the top of a groove that way you will never mess up.
 
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uk_skippy

Hall of Fame
1. Why are you a muppet for stringing it 2 piece? It would seem that you have limited stringing experience, and therefore I'd recommend; and I teach people to learn to string 2 piece only.
2. If, as @Irvin has said, if the crosses are not sitting in the groove then you'd need to start them again.
3. Who taught you to string?
4. I agree with @Wes, if you're charging money for you work, it should be right. Never give a racquet back that you know is wrong, no matter how you'll compensate the customer later down the line. Better to redo at your further cost to start with.
 

jim e

Legend
Never let a mistake leave your place ever.
No amount of compensation you give the customer will be proper as that person knows you gave him an improper strung racquet and that effects your reputation and that's the last thing you need.
String it over and say nothing to customer and be done with it and be satisfied you gave him a properly strung racquet.
 
All you really have to restring are the crosses. You should have left the racket in the machine, and as soon as you realized they weren't lining up right, start undoing them. Then, with a new piece of string, or even the same one if you haven't strung too many crosses, start over from the opposite side. The only tricky part is getting the knot undone. You have to be careful, but you can cut the string just above the knot on the outside of the frame, then push the knot inward. It will be a lot easier to undo then.
 

Irvin

Talk Tennis Guru
The reference to being a muppet was not because the racket was strung 2 piece but because the crosses were ran in backwards and not realized until half way down. You could make the same mistake (or not) stringing it 1 piece.

With time most stringers become familiar with what to look for when stringing racket that is not symmetrical or with grommets that are not symmetrical. @Kam2010 don't worry about it there’s nothing that can’t be fixed.
 

am1899

Hall of Fame
The reference to being a muppet was not because the racket was strung 2 piece but because the crosses were ran in backwards and not realized until half way down.
Maybe that’s what OP intended to say, but that’s not what he said.

and like a muppet I done it as 2 piece and then realised half way down that I have strung it slightly wrong.
OP placing the adjective at the beginning of the sentence followed by the use of the word, “and” between the 2 descriptions of behavior (stringing 2pc, starting the crosses on the wrong side) implies that both conditions must be true, in his or her eyes, for one to be a muppet.

The point I (and others made), perhaps poking fun a bit, was that there’s nothing wrong with stringing 2pc...so it shouldn’t have been part of the equation in deciding who’s a muppet.
 
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Kam2010

Rookie
I reckon you should pay more attention to what you're doing - especially when stringing frames that you haven't done before - and ESPECIALLY when stringing other people's frames for money.
I agree and it was just a lack of concentration and assumed it was just like my own aeropro drives, which reminds me of the under siege 2 film, assumption is the mother of all f*** ups.

1. Why are you a muppet for stringing it 2 piece? It would seem that you have limited stringing experience, and therefore I'd recommend; and I teach people to learn to string 2 piece only.
2. If, as @Irvin has said, if the crosses are not sitting in the groove then you'd need to start them again.
3. Who taught you to string?
4. I agree with @Wes, if you're charging money for you work, it should be right. Never give a racquet back that you know is wrong, no matter how you'll compensate the customer later down the line. Better to redo at your further cost to start with.
1. My original post was worded wrong, what I mean was I got the starting knot wrong etc, not that I am a muppet stringing 2 piece there is nothing wrong with it..
2. Yes Irwin I hold a lot of respect for as I watch his videos on how to string he's brilliant.
3. Not been taught by anyone just watched videos on youtube
4. I know the person who I strung it for I play tennis with him, I was going to tell him either way and give him the option either he can use as is and no charge for it or I can restring it with the string at my expense and cost for the restring as originally agreed.

All you really have to restring are the crosses. You should have left the racket in the machine, and as soon as you realized they weren't lining up right, start undoing them. Then, with a new piece of string, or even the same one if you haven't strung too many crosses, start over from the opposite side. The only tricky part is getting the knot undone. You have to be careful, but you can cut the string just above the knot on the outside of the frame, then push the knot inward. It will be a lot easier to undo then.
Once I realised this Steve I tried to undo the starting knot, and was fiddling about trying to undo it but to be honest if I cut too much I would of cut the main string it just wasn't budging, the string is babolat excel string so I would of just been cutting the threads, if it was a poly I reckon I could of just done it. I had that intention as I realised the starting knot was done on the wrong side, didn't think of cutting it from the outside instead that may of worked, good thinking.

The reference to being a muppet was not because the racket was strung 2 piece but because the crosses were ran in backwards and not realized until half way down. You could make the same mistake (or not) stringing it 1 piece.
With time most stringers become familiar with what to look for when stringing racket that is not symmetrical or with grommets that are not symmetrical.
Yeah, that was basically it, if you don't start in the correct position it will be strung wrong. I made the mistake of wrong starting position,

@Kam2010 don't worry about it there’s nothing that can’t be fixed.
Yes, you are right, I can just restring it but I do not have the excel string I was given to use, I have one in a lower gauge, I was just thinking to tell my friend, this is what has happened and I wont charge for the restring or if he wants I can restring using the string I have and then charge for the restring as originally agreed..
Maybe that’s what OP intended to say, but that’s not what he said.

OP placing the adjective at the beginning of the sentence followed by the use of the word, “and” between the 2 descriptions of behavior (stringing 2pc, starting the crosses on the wrong side) implies that both conditions must be true, in his or her eyes, for one to be a muppet.

The point I (and others made), perhaps poking fun a bit, was that there’s nothing wrong with stringing 2pc...so it shouldn’t have been part of the equation in deciding who’s a muppet.
Thanks
Had the OP said, "Like a muppet I done it as 2 piece." Would you have understood what he meant and what went wrong?
God knows lol


I appreciate the comments and it's good to see some passionate people here on this forum when it comes to stringing.
I think it's unanimous that everyone here is of the opinion to just restring it again correctly.

What I wanted to know if by leaving the string on the racket as it is, will it affect the racket structurally, as if it will not, then I was going to tell my friend anyway and he can either decide to keep the racket without paying for that restring or if he wants it restringing I will do it again.
or
If it does affect the frame, then I will cut it out and restring it again like it never happened. If it was my own racket I would of just left it and use it as normal..
 

Irvin

Talk Tennis Guru
Once I realised this Steve I tried to undo the starting knot, and was fiddling about trying to undo it but to be honest if I cut too much I would of cut the main string it just wasn't budging,
All the more reason to use a VS Starting knot. The tag end is just wrapped around the anchor 2 times going up, and because there is actually no knot there is nothing to untie. But on the other hand I would not want to reuse string than had been used for crosses and tensioned half way down the mains even though I understand some people consider that standard procedure even after a cross string breaks in play and mains are used again.
 

uk_skippy

Hall of Fame
1. Why are you a muppet for stringing it 2 piece? It would seem that you have limited stringing experience, and therefore I'd recommend; and I teach people to learn to string 2 piece only.
2. If, as @Irvin has said, if the crosses are not sitting in the groove then you'd need to start them again.
3. Who taught you to string?
4. I agree with @Wes, if you're charging money for you work, it should be right. Never give a racquet back that you know is wrong, no matter how you'll compensate the customer later down the line. Better to redo at your further cost to start with.
1. My original post was worded wrong, what I mean was I got the starting knot wrong etc, not that I am a muppet stringing 2 piece there is nothing wrong with it..
2. Yes Irwin I hold a lot of respect for as I watch his videos on how to string he's brilliant.
3. Not been taught by anyone just watched videos on youtube
4. I know the person who I strung it for I play tennis with him, I was going to tell him either way and give him the option either he can use as is and no charge for it or I can restring it with the string at my expense and cost for the restring as originally agreed.
1. Ok, not probs.
2. Thumbs Up
3. There are plenty of wrong videos on how to string, probably more than there are right. I'd suggest actually taking a course, and have someone guide/teach you. Where are you in the UK? I'm based near the South Coast.
4. Fair point, especially as you were given the string.

I appreciate the comments and it's good to see some passionate people here on this forum when it comes to stringing.
I think it's unanimous that everyone here is of the opinion to just restring it again correctly.

What I wanted to know if by leaving the string on the racket as it is, will it affect the racket structurally, as if it will not, then I was going to tell my friend anyway and he can either decide to keep the racket without paying for that restring or if he wants it restringing I will do it again.
or
If it does affect the frame, then I will cut it out and restring it again like it never happened. If it was my own racket I would of just left it and use it as normal..
Leaving it shouldnt harm the integrity of the racquet, but it will expose the string to scrapes on the ground, and premature string breakage.

And with regards to starting knots, this is why I'd always suggest using a starting clamp instead of a starting knot; and far more beneficial when in your infacy as a stringer. There's only 1 thing better than a starting clamp......and thats 2 starting clamps. Invest in at least 1.

Regards

Paul
 
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Rabbit

G.O.A.T.
And with regards to starting knots, this is why I'd always suggest using a starting clamp instead of a starting knot; and far more beneficial when in your infacy as a stringer. There's only 1 thing better than a starting clamp......and thats 2 starting clamps. Invest in at least 1.

Regards

Paul
The above should be a sticky..... Stringing machines shouldn't be sold without the inclusion of a starting clamp.
 

struggle

Legend
Yep, one more reason to use a starting clamp (I have three) instead of a knot of any sort (until tying off).

FWIW, I hate these "one-sided" rackets, but they are more common these days....
 

jim e

Legend
Yes, you are right, I can just restring it but I do not have the excel string I was given to use, I have one in a lower gauge, I was just thinking to tell my friend, this is what has happened and I wont charge for the restring or if he wants I can restring using the string I have and then charge for the restring as originally agreed..
Since you asked for opinion here is my take on this.
This is where I differ from you.
Like I said, I would never have a racquet leave that I know I can fix the problem.
I would get the string from TW and have it shipped overnight just to have it to restring that racquet, as I would never have a racquet leave with an error. Anyone can sell a racquet or equipment, but the string job has your signature to it, and it's your reputation. Granted anyone can make a mistake, but if it can be corrected, that it my option, to correct it and be done with it and chalk it up to a learning experience.
Each racquet you do, you should look it over when done and know that it was done to the best of your ability, and anything less should not be acceptable.
 
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am1899

Hall of Fame
Had the OP said, "Like a muppet I done it as 2 piece." Would you have understood what he meant and what went wrong?
Don’t really see the point of debating a hypothetical.

OP no disrespect. I was just making a little light humor. :)
 
I'm with Jim on this issue. I wouldn't give it to your friend if you did it incorrectly, even if he is your friend. If you do decide to pull out the crosses, make sure your racket is on the machine. If you finished the racket and it was incorrect, the best thing to do is cut it all out and just start again.
 
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