Sub-Two-Hour Marathon

Sentinel

Bionic Poster
No record this year.

Kipchoge takes it in 02:03:32, Adola finishes second in his first ever marathon, gave Eliud a scare there. Kipsang stopped at 30k, puking, and Bekele dropped out shortly thereafter, as many had predicted beforehand.
almost thought Adola would win ! Looks like an old man, but is 26. 1990 born. HOpe he does well in the future.

Sad and disappoint about world record. Repoarting to moads.
 

Sysyphus

Talk Tennis Guru
The GOAT is Back: Kenenisa Bekele Runs Stunning 2:01:41 at BMW Berlin Marathon

In one of the most thrilling and surprising marathon performances of all time, Ethiopia’s Kenenisa Bekele showed today, definitively, why he is the greatest distance runner to ever walk the earth. Trailing countryman Berhanu Legese by 13 seconds at 35 kilometers, Bekele rose from the dead to win the 2019 BMW Berlin Marathon in an astonishing 2:01:41, missing Eliud Kipchoge’s world record, set on this course a year ago, by just two seconds.

That Bekele won this race in comeback fashion served as an apt metaphor for his marathon career. After compiling an unparalleled resume on the track and in cross country — three Olympic gold medals, still-standing world records over 5,000 (12:37.35) and 10,000 (26:17.53) meters, 11 World Cross Country titles — Bekele has struggled to find the same level of consistency in the marathon. Prior to Berlin, he had completed just one marathon in the last 29 months, dropping out or withdrawing from four of his last six marathons. At 37, and three years removed from his last marathon victory, many had written Bekele off as a contender.

Bekele has come from behind in some of his greatest victories — the 2013 Great North Run over Haile Gebrselassie and Mo Farah, and the 2016 Berlin Marathon against Wilson Kipsang — but never by this much, in a race in which he ran this fast. Bekele has amassed so many big wins in his career that it would be a disservice to immediately proclaim this as number one. But given the time he ran, and the fact that this race revived his career at age 37, there’s certainly a case for it.

https://www.letsrun.com/news/2019/09/the-goat-is-back-kenenisa-bekele-runs-stunning-20141-at-bmw-berlin-marathon/



@Sentinel rejoices. Bittersweet with such a great comeback but sooo close to the record.
 

Sentinel

Bionic Poster
The GOAT is Back: Kenenisa Bekele Runs Stunning 2:01:41 at BMW Berlin Marathon

In one of the most thrilling and surprising marathon performances of all time, Ethiopia’s Kenenisa Bekele showed today, definitively, why he is the greatest distance runner to ever walk the earth. Trailing countryman Berhanu Legese by 13 seconds at 35 kilometers, Bekele rose from the dead to win the 2019 BMW Berlin Marathon in an astonishing 2:01:41, missing Eliud Kipchoge’s world record, set on this course a year ago, by just two seconds.

That Bekele won this race in comeback fashion served as an apt metaphor for his marathon career. After compiling an unparalleled resume on the track and in cross country — three Olympic gold medals, still-standing world records over 5,000 (12:37.35) and 10,000 (26:17.53) meters, 11 World Cross Country titles — Bekele has struggled to find the same level of consistency in the marathon. Prior to Berlin, he had completed just one marathon in the last 29 months, dropping out or withdrawing from four of his last six marathons. At 37, and three years removed from his last marathon victory, many had written Bekele off as a contender.

Bekele has come from behind in some of his greatest victories — the 2013 Great North Run over Haile Gebrselassie and Mo Farah, and the 2016 Berlin Marathon against Wilson Kipsang — but never by this much, in a race in which he ran this fast. Bekele has amassed so many big wins in his career that it would be a disservice to immediately proclaim this as number one. But given the time he ran, and the fact that this race revived his career at age 37, there’s certainly a case for it.

https://www.letsrun.com/news/2019/09/the-goat-is-back-kenenisa-bekele-runs-stunning-20141-at-bmw-berlin-marathon/



@Sentinel rejoices. Bittersweet with such a great comeback but sooo close to the record.
Thanks for the mention. I am ecstatic.
So close just like 4015, no :(

Also happy to read of the Ethiopian sweep.
 
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stringertom

Bionic Poster
The GOAT is Back: Kenenisa Bekele Runs Stunning 2:01:41 at BMW Berlin Marathon

In one of the most thrilling and surprising marathon performances of all time, Ethiopia’s Kenenisa Bekele showed today, definitively, why he is the greatest distance runner to ever walk the earth. Trailing countryman Berhanu Legese by 13 seconds at 35 kilometers, Bekele rose from the dead to win the 2019 BMW Berlin Marathon in an astonishing 2:01:41, missing Eliud Kipchoge’s world record, set on this course a year ago, by just two seconds.

That Bekele won this race in comeback fashion served as an apt metaphor for his marathon career. After compiling an unparalleled resume on the track and in cross country — three Olympic gold medals, still-standing world records over 5,000 (12:37.35) and 10,000 (26:17.53) meters, 11 World Cross Country titles — Bekele has struggled to find the same level of consistency in the marathon. Prior to Berlin, he had completed just one marathon in the last 29 months, dropping out or withdrawing from four of his last six marathons. At 37, and three years removed from his last marathon victory, many had written Bekele off as a contender.

Bekele has come from behind in some of his greatest victories — the 2013 Great North Run over Haile Gebrselassie and Mo Farah, and the 2016 Berlin Marathon against Wilson Kipsang — but never by this much, in a race in which he ran this fast. Bekele has amassed so many big wins in his career that it would be a disservice to immediately proclaim this as number one. But given the time he ran, and the fact that this race revived his career at age 37, there’s certainly a case for it.

https://www.letsrun.com/news/2019/09/the-goat-is-back-kenenisa-bekele-runs-stunning-20141-at-bmw-berlin-marathon/



@Sentinel rejoices. Bittersweet with such a great comeback but sooo close to the record.
Eye wood stihl bet on Sabooshs iff the FINNISH line iz anne AYCE buffet anne the DEAD line iz clozing thyme.
 

Vcore89

G.O.A.T.
Itt iz know smawl coincidence dat “Pb” iz the chemical cymbal for Led Poobelin, know?
Why does sureshs' legs feel like lead when he run after some heavy weight [stainless steel implement for scooping and a pronged tool to dig or hold food down for cutting/slicing] lifting?
 

Sysyphus

Talk Tennis Guru
^Was just about to say.

Pretty impressive.

Obviously it's not a bona fide marathon record given the conditions it was carried out in. But the race still had to be run, so it's sick all the same.
 

ForumMember

Hall of Fame
Astounding!

Predictable. Inevitable. :)

The very guy from the OP, no less. (y)
well..at first impression i thought it to be as impressive as Bolts WR and OR.. But got to know it is not legit world record..

though still it is amazing feat but not same as running sub-2 hour marathon in all legit conditions.
 

r2473

G.O.A.T.
well..at first impression i thought it to be as impressive as Bolts WR and OR.. But got to know it is not legit world record..

though still it is amazing feat but not same as running sub-2 hour marathon in all legit conditions.
What are the current “rabbit rules” in racing? Obviously what was done in this race isn’t allowed, but how obvious does pacing have to be to get a record disqualified?

Also, was he the official winner of the race? It sounds like he is. So how can he be allowed to officially win a race using pacing, but not have it be an official time for the record books?

By the way, this is exactly what happens in bicycle races. An entire team is there to support the best rider, not actually win the race. And nobody says that their rides aren’t legit. That’s just what bike racing is.
 
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Bartelby

Talk Tennis Guru
He also decided to run in Vienna as it is completely flat. A marathon is not an exact discipline apart from the distance.
 

Dags

Hall of Fame
What are the current “rabbit rules” in racing? Obviously what was done in this race isn’t allowed, but how obvious does pacing have to be to get a record disqualified?

Also, was he the official winner of the race? It sounds like he is. So how can he be allowed to officially win a race using pacing, but not have it be an official time for the record books?

By the way, this is exactly what happens in bicycle races. An entire team is there to support the best rider, not actually win the race. And nobody says that their rides aren’t legit. That’s just what bike racing is.
Pacemaking itself isn't banned, but in this instance they were rotated in five teams of seven for 4.5km shifts. Had the pacemakers all run from the start, that would have been fine.

Two other factors made this an unofficial time. There was a pace car projecting a laser on the road to show the runners the exact target time; this pace car was also designed to act as a wind shield (as were the teams of human pacemakers by running in formation). Drinks were delivered directly to Kipchoge so that he didn't have to veer from the fastest line, whereas usually runners have to pick them up from a table.

It is a groundbreaking moment. I think Kipchoge is correct in suggesting that it won't be long before two hours is beaten under competition rules.
 

Sentinel

Bionic Poster
^^ In addition, normally the date and time is decided well in advance. Here the time was decided based on wind conditions. there was a 2 hour window when the wind would be low.

Runners formed a v-shape in front of him to block the wind, and kept changing.

What about the shoes ? No details yet about it.
 

Vcore89

G.O.A.T.
^^ In addition, normally the date and time is decided well in advance. Here the time was decided based on wind conditions. there was a 2 hour window when the wind would be low.

Runners formed a v-shape in front of him to block the wind, and kept changing.

What about the shoes ? No details yet about it.
Don't think he'd be the one to lower the world-record breaking mark.
 

atatu

Hall of Fame
Interesting to see there are GOAT debates in all sports, on TV everyone was saying Kipchoge is the GOAT, but I see an article earlier in this thread proclaiming an Ethiopian guy is the GOAT....
 

Sentinel

Bionic Poster
Interesting to see there are GOAT debates in all sports, on TV everyone was saying Kipchoge is the GOAT, but I see an article earlier in this thread proclaiming an Ethiopian guy is the GOAT....
Kenenise Bekele.

Earlier in the 90s before Roger Federer, Haile was the GOAT for me. I never could warm up to Said Aouita and Morcelli et al.
 

atatu

Hall of Fame
Kenenise Bekele.

Earlier in the 90s before Roger Federer, Haile was the GOAT for me. I never could warm up to Said Aouita and Morcelli et al.
I guess the thing that makes it more complicated is how you define "distance runner" which could be anything from 5k to a marathon. Bekele has the resume for the 5k and 10k events but he probably didn't focus on the marathon until his later years, but looking at his accomplishments it's impressive.
 

Sentinel

Bionic Poster
how you define "distance runner"
800, 1500 is middle distance.

5k, 10k, marathon is long distance. (When i was training for the 5k, i was running 21 milers every sunday. A decent marathon was not out of reach.)

However, if someone does primarily 800 1500 and tries out 5k in the end then he still would be middle distance.
 

atatu

Hall of Fame
I agree, but I think you could have a different GOAT for a the 5k and 10k versus the marathon. There's a big difference between running 6 miles versus 26 miles.
 

atatu

Hall of Fame
Slightly off topic but did anyone watch the NYC marathon yesterday, crazy that the third place finisher had to start with the "non elite" runners but he had a 2:16 to his credit (which he smashed yesterday) also the American kid (Connor McMillan) who improved his PR by something like 12 minutes !! Lots of good stories there.
 

Ronaldo

Talk Tennis Guru
Slightly off topic but did anyone watch the NYC marathon yesterday, crazy that the third place finisher had to start with the "non elite" runners but he had a 2:16 to his credit (which he smashed yesterday) also the American kid (Connor McMillan) who improved his PR by something like 12 minutes !! Lots of good stories there.
Is there/will there be a Rosie Ruiz Memorial Marathon?
 

dgold44

G.O.A.T.
30s and 40s I Do BJJ, Krav , kick boxing and wrestling

my parents were too soft on me
I had No strong father to beat the stuffing out of me
 
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