Success Story, by Lew Hoad

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  1. BobbyOne

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    Mustard, One thing should be obvious: Dan Lobb is more obsessed by his darling than BobbyOne is obsessed by his. Dan seems to be in the TMF sphere...
     
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    Degrees of blackness.

    The idiom "The pot calling the kettle black" is used in a situation where a person is considered guilty of the very thing of which they accuse another. It dates from the time when cooking was done over an open hearth fireplace; both the kettle and the cooking pot would be suspended above it and collect the same amount of soot. The earliest instances date from the early 17th century.
     
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  3. Dan Lobb

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    I simply follow the facts to where they lead.

    I do not buy into the typical commercial hype and hackery which passes for tennis analysis.
     
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  4. Dan Lobb

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    Bobby, I have made many critical remarks on my posts, I am not a blind hero-worshipper.

    I do not see any critical remarks from you about your idol.

    In 1969, Hoad told a London Times reporter (Bellamy) that anyone who considered him some sort of hero was experiencing some mental problem.
     
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  5. BobbyOne

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    Dan, Hoad played only a second role in the 1958 F.H. tournament. The two leaders were Gonzalez and Rosewall.
     
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  6. BobbyOne

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    Dan, You should read my and your own posts more intensively.
     
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    The Cold War coincidence with the brightest moments of social equity, justice and welfare is no mere coincidence.Due to the pressure from the " Evil" Soviets, the Western leaders had to give something to their people so to avoid a big revolution.

    It is one of the saddest, yet most exciting lessons from history.The Soviet Union did harm to their people but helped sooo much the western people..

    Now, what is the pressure form Chine? more deregulation and wild west capitalism...
     
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    Yes, I know." The third way".
     
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    kiki, excellent analysis.
     
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    kiki, Probably a tamed Capitalism (like many years in Sweden) is better than a tamed Communism. But we don't know what would have happened if the Sowjets would not have invaded Czechoslovakia under Dubcek. Maybe a Socialism with "human face" would have arisen.
     
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    Yes, sounds realistic.It would have developed a kind of socialism like Yugoslavia.Not a stalinist regim like that following.
     
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  12. Dan Lobb

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    Hoad and Gonzales played the final, marquee match of the 1958 Forest Hills Pro tournament, and it was the match of the tournament.
    Hoad df. Gonzales df. Rosewall df. Hoad
    And around it went.
    Inconclusive.

    All matches counted towards points in the overall tournament championship and bonus money pool for 1958.
     
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  13. BobbyOne

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    Dan Lobb's mathematics. In fact Hoad finished only fourth.
     
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  14. Dan Lobb

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    First in the tournament series on points and money, in which Forest Hills formed a part.
    When all is said and done.
     
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    Success Story, by Jaroslav Drobny

    Some interesting comments. I'm going to add a similar piece on Jaroslav Drobny today.
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  16. Dan Lobb

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    Good rating system.
     
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    Hello Dan i myself is a Hoad fan i saw him play Conzales and Sedgman in the late fifties and Laver in Sydney Jan 1963, when i look at the tennis today i find it boring with both players camped on the baseline waiting for one to make a mistake, i often wonder what the past champions would do today with the new equipment, they say the players today are fitter i do not buy that,i think Hoad and Emerson could play all day and all night and still be ready for the next day,to see Hoad and Conzales in todays draw i think it would very interesting.Cheers Tom Williams
     
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    Back again just about every one turned up in my home town to watch Hoad play Sedgman at school all of us wanted a Lew Hoad tennis racquet and also a Norm Oneil cricket bat but none of us got either111.tw
     
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  20. Dan Lobb

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    Great to hear from you, Tom.
    I envy you that you got to see Hoad and Gonzales play each other in their prime years, I wish I could get into a time machine and see those matches.
    Also Laver/Hoad in Sydney.
    It's a crying shame that what film footage that was made of the great match ups from those years are not available to the public today.
    All the copyright concerns keep them tied up in the vault.

    Great to hear your reminiscences, Tom.
    Keep in touch.
     
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