Surprising things happening at Wimbledon!

Is anyone else surprised by the performance of both Fernando Gonzalez and Juan Carlos Ferrero at Wimbledon? I can't beleive that Gonzalez beat JJ at all, let alone in straight sets. Also, I am surprised that JC beat Mayer so easily after the first set.

These players are supposed to be at their best on slower surfaces, but could either of them make an impact deeper into the tournament? I didn't see the statistics, but Gonzalez hitting 47 winners to 6 unforced errors and hitting 21 aces is quite impressive. How will he do against Youzhny?

Ferrero is not quite so lucky with his draw. He will be lucky to win a set against Federer, but he should be proud of himself for making the 4th round, especially since he did poorly at the French(pretty unlucky draw there too!).

What do people think about this? It looks like Gonzalez might make the QF or even SF, although I don't know how good Youzhny is on grass. Will Juanqui trouble Feds at all?

Thanks for your responses!

-Darius
 

davey25

Banned
I dont think Gonzales can beat Hewitt if they play. I also doubt JCF will give Federer much trouble on grass, although the way Roger is playing, you never know. I still expect a Hewitt-Federer semi in the end.

JCF and Gonzales should be happy. They had good tournaments already, considering they are not grass court players.
 

Rodzilla

Semi-Pro
What about Coria advancing to play Roddick? It took Coria a five-setter today to dispatch Melzer, so not looking good for an already underdogged Coria.

Mirnyi and Tursunov are still in the hunt. I don't know about Tursunov's game, but "the beast" looks like a grass kind of guy.

All in all, there are surprising things happening at Wimbledon. It's very intriguing to see how it all plays out, IMHO. --(Hopefully with Andy Roddick lifting up the trophy ;) )
 

davey25

Banned
If Roddick wins the trophy it would be a bit of a farce, after he had the benefit of such an easy draw. Believe me, I would not be the only questioning if he still would have done it with the same draws Federer, Hewitt, Safin, or even Nadal had; if he does win it. His ridiculously easy draw will taint his win to some, if he does win it.
 

Rodzilla

Semi-Pro
davey25 said:
If Roddick wins the trophy it would be a bit of a farce, after he had the benefit of such an easy draw. Believe me, I would not be the only questioning if he still would have done it with the same draws Federer, Hewitt, Safin, or even Nadal had; if he does win it. His ridiculously easy draw will taint his win to some, if he does win it.
I guess you could look at it that way. I recall when the draws were first released, Roddick had one of the tougher ones. I guess there were some upsets here and there that kept him from playing those opponents that were supposed to be tough, but I also think those same guys that upset those tough players could also bring some resistance against Roddick. A win is a win no matter how it is done in my book, but of course Roddick's going to get some beef on how it was not deserved.
 

davey25

Banned
His draw looks like the draw Nalbandian had at Wimbledon 2002 to the final. Roddick doesnt need an easy draw the same way Nalbandian did then, but it looks similar in terms of quality.

Anyway Coria, JCF, and Gonzales, have all had great tournaments on grass, but I think they will all end soon, maybe with Gonzales surviving one more round.
 

Type40

Semi-Pro
It proves what Henman has been syaing, that the wimbledon grass is now so slow it's much more conducive to the clay courters game.
 

Pushmaster

Hall of Fame
I think the surprises are just beginning. You guys will probably think I'm nuts, but I really think one of these "claycourt specialists" is going to go all the way and win it. I got a hunch it will be Gonzalez. I've always felt like one of these days he would win a major, so why not this years Wimbledon!? I'll tell you the two guys who won't win it, Federer or Roddick.
 

West Coast Ace

G.O.A.T.
Type40 said:
It proves what Henman has been syaing, that the wimbledon grass is now so slow it's much more conducive to the clay courters game.
That is the correct answer to why the clay courters are lasting into the 2nd week. Of course Timmy did get them to not open the cans of balls ahead of time - a lot of good that did him. :)
 

Pushmaster

Hall of Fame
I wouldn't bet on it because like I said it's just a "hunch", but I will be kicking myself for not laying any money down on it if Gonzalez actually wins. I just had a feeling from day one that someone that nobody ever expected to win Wimbledon would win it, I'm probably wrong but we'll see.
 

friedalo1

Semi-Pro
Gasquet is pushing up the draw. He won easily today. He is a darkhorse in the tournament. They dont even show 1 highlight of Gasquet match on espn today. They dont even show the score on tv.
 

Kaptain Karl

Hall Of Fame
Wow! Those Gonzo/JJ stats are astonishing. I guess dead balls and slower grass is changing the "Grass Game." (But I think the dead balls thing was stupid.)

davey25 said:
His draw looks like the draw Nalbandian had at Wimbledon 2002 to the final.
If, by this, you mean "the way the draw looked before play began," you are correct. Nalbanian *appeared* to have a pretty tough section of the draw.

If, by this, you mean "the way the draw panned out" you are correct. David benefitted from a goodly number of upsets.

If, by this, you mean, "Andy's draw looked easy before play began," you're high on something.

...it looks similar in terms of quality.
Yes. It "looked" like an equally difficult draw.

- KK
 
I don't think Johansson was helped at all by his movement. He has got a huge serve and huge groundstrokes but he moves like his feet are caked in cement. Im surprised he lost but not shocked as I think he plays a lot better on hardcourts where he feels more confident in his footing. I also don't think he serve-volleys enough.

With the draw, if I get the chance to win a tournament never having to face a seeded player I'm eternally grateful as those kind of opportunities don't happen very often. It can also be a lot harder facing those guys because usually you've never seen them play and they just swing from the hip because they've got nothing to lose. The most you can do is beat your opponent, no-matter who they are so I wouldnt consider a win for Roddick tainted in any way. That's why they call it the luck of the draw. If it was rigged, would Henman ever have had to play Sampras at Wimbledon?

A clay-court 'specialist' won't win Wimbledon but a baseliner might. A clay court specialist wouldnt be able to adjust his game enough to win on grass but a baseliner could. Coria and Nalbandian aren't limited to clay, they can win on all other surfaces but I dont think they'll win at Wimbledon. I still think Federer will win but Im really looking forward to seeing Gasquet.
 
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