Swiatek awarded point for double bounce

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At the Navarro vs. Swiatek quarterfinal match, there was a clear double bounce situation which somehow the umpire failed to spot. Navarro then asked for VAR, but the umpire (Eva Asderaki) didn't allow it because the rules state that she cannot request for it if she continued the point instead of stopping immediately. Swiatek then held for 3-2 in the second set.

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Video of the double bounce: https://x.com/josemorgado/status/1881915665214534126
 
Well, the umpire is Eva Asderaki, what did you expect? Crucial point too, 2-2 ad in... you'd think in this day and age, the rules and technology would be such that something like that could never happen at this level of competition. What incompetence!

But the worst thing is... look at Swiatek. She knew what she did, doesn't bother her one bit! She's probably even proud of it!

EDIT: if one pays close attention it can also be seen that Navarro touched the net with her racquet, before she lobbed Swiatek. Eva Asderaki again as clueless as always.
 
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Rosstour said:
And that in this timeline, cheaters win
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Alas, the records won't actually penalise historical value for this stuff, when it should clearly matter. We've conjured arbitrary games and slapped on a sh1t or bust mentality to outcomes so what actually happens in the process is lost to the void if it isn't captured and penalized in a way that may influence the result at the time; and even if it is addressed and rendered moot in the moment, the ethos of actually doing these things in the first place is deplorable to the point of value-annulment anyway. It's called 'sport' after all. This is exactly how the rulebook could be torn up at the end of season finale in F1 with nary a historical eyelid batted, only ineffectual yelling into the abyss from the contemporaneous plebeians.
 
Pinocchio said:
Well, the umpire is Eva Asderaki, what did you expect? Crucial point too, 2-2 ad in... you'd think in this day and age, the rules and technology would be such that something like that could never happen at this level of competition. What incompetence!

But the worst thing is... look at Swiatek. She knew what she did, doesn't bother her one bit! She's probably even proud of it!
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All Swiatek's opponent needed to do was stop playing. Were this as obvious as everyone is saying (at full speed off a solitary view as per the view of the umpire and Swiatek's opponent) that's what she would have done.
 
reaper said:
All Swiatek's opponent needed to do was stop playing. Were this as obvious as everyone is saying (at full speed off a solitary view as per the view of the umpire and Swiatek's opponent) that's what she would have done.
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ahh, again, you and facts. Who needs it..... /sarcasm
 
To be fair to everyone but Iga, that was extremely difficult to see, even in the slow mo repeat of it but as others say, Iga should have known and admitted it.

Let's be real here though, would it have changed the outcome of the match? Nah.
 
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The idea of Lance Armstrong taking steroids or EPO after cancer is hilarious.
The idea of gluten intolerance diagnosis after holding a slice of bread is pure science.
 
So funny to see Nole fans claim that somebody is worse than their idol lol
Especially Rafa...can't help but laugh. Victim mentality.

She could've stopped and forfeited the point but what's the point of umpires then? They can't tell either since it's so close. That's why I have 0 clue why replay is not possible.
VAR in football overturns a completed play. Same should be allowed here.
 
WNB93 said:
So funny to see Nole fans claim that somebody is worse than their idol lol
Especially Rafa...can't help but laugh. Victim mentality.

She could've stopped and forfeited the point but what's the point of umpires then? They can't tell either since it's so close. That's why I have 0 clue why replay is not possible.
VAR in football overturns a completed play. Same should be allowed here.
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Tennis has a challenge system. She could have stopped play and challenged. Instead she opted to play on which extinguished her right to challenge.
 
I'm disappointed with Swiatek didn't admit the double bounce of the ball and I'm even more disappointed with umpire Asderaki. She should have noticed the double bounce, it was a short distance from her chair. This is a terrible mistake for Asderaki.
 
reaper said:
Tennis has a challenge system. She could have stopped play and challenged. Instead she opted to play on which extinguished her right to challenge.
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I understand that...we got the email before the AO.
But I still think that in this case or the Draper case, a review after the point is over wouldn't be that outrageous.
 
WNB93 said:
I understand that...we got the email before the AO.
But I still think that in this case or the Draper case, a review after the point is over wouldn't be that outrageous.
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Especially because sometimes you can’t stop and hit the ball back instinctively as in this case.
 
Iga kept on playing the point, never stopped or knew it was a double bounce. She’s not a good actor. She isn’t a good liar.

The replays that all of us saw and now get a million angles of were not shown to her or the stadium so she didn’t know it double bounced. I’ve watched her reactions after she hit that shot, she didn’t stop as if she knew it was a double bounce. She wasn’t asked to concede the point.

Tell me that you, having not seen any replays would give up a break point in a slam QF to earn an extra $200,000 and make a slam SF without any form of confirmation the ball was a double bounce especially when you continued the point cause you didn’t feel the double bounce?
 
Aussie Darcy said:
Iga kept on playing the point, never stopped or knew it was a double bounce. She’s not a good actor. She isn’t a good liar.

The replays that all of us saw and now get a million angles of were not shown to her or the stadium so she didn’t know it double bounced. I’ve watched her reactions after she hit that shot, she didn’t stop as if she knew it was a double bounce. She wasn’t asked to concede the point.

Tell me that you, having not seen any replays would give up a break point in a slam QF to earn an extra $200,000 and make a slam SF without any form of confirmation the ball was a double bounce especially when you continued the point cause you didn’t feel the double bounce?
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She knew it was a double bounce. All tennis players know when they hit the ball off a double bounce. So tired of this lame ass excuse from people who have clearly never played tennis,
 
reaper said:
Tennis has a challenge system. She could have stopped play and challenged. Instead she opted to play on which extinguished her right to challenge.
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This is literally only the 2nd tournament in history to have replays on double bounce(after last years USO). And its pretty hard to stop in the middle of an intense point, its not like the old challenge system for line calls or stopping to check a mark on clay. Not sure why the umpire couldn't have checked after the point ended, who cares if the point kept going, if you have the option to check, why not? Other sports check even if play kept going etc. I doubt Iga would have cared if she checked.
 
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Service Ace said:
She knew it was a double bounce. All tennis players know when they hit the ball off a double bounce. So tired of this lame ass excuse from people who have clearly never played tennis,
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Many pro players say they do not know when they've hit off of a double bounce. I may only be a 4.0 player but I'll take their word over yours. Now, I don't think Iga is a great sportsperson, but there is zero evidence that she knew it was a double bounce. The ump didn't catch it. Renee Stubbs, who was commenting at courtside, did not catch it and thought Iga reached the ball in time, but of course, all of the online forum commentators who have seen the super slo-mo replay can with righteous indignity condemn all these people in hindsight.

Even if Iga lost that point, it was just taking the game to deuce. With that 6-1, 6-2 scoreline, no way that point was changing the outcome of the match.
 
zvelf said:
Many pro players say they do not know when they've hit off of a double bounce. I may only be a 4.0 player but I'll take their word over yours. Now, I don't think Iga is a great sportsperson, but there is zero evidence that she knew it was a double bounce. The ump didn't catch it. Renee Stubbs, who was commenting at courtside, did not catch it and thought Iga reached the ball in time, but of course, all of the online forum commentators who have seen the super slo-mo replay can with righteous indignity condemn all these people in hindsight.

Even if Iga lost that point, it was just taking the game to deuce. With that 6-1, 6-2 scoreline, no way that point was changing the outcome of the match.
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Federer might disagree

There's a clip of him explaining to the umpire how the arc of the ball and spin is completely different off the racket when getting the ball clean or after a 2nd bounce.

Here you go
 
ratherlosethanpush said:
Federer might disagree

There's a clip of him explaining to the umpire how the arc of the ball and spin is completely different off the racket when getting the ball clean or after a 2nd bounce.

Here you go
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Even so, it assumes that Iga was consciously paying attention to the direction of the ball spin in a split-second, something much easier for the opponent to see who's not focused on chasing down a shot. I'm just saying that it's easy to condemn after the fact, not so easy in the moment. If anyone is to blame, it's the umpire, not Iga.
 
zvelf said:
Many pro players say they do not know when they've hit off of a double bounce. I may only be a 4.0 player but I'll take their word over yours. Now, I don't think Iga is a great sportsperson, but there is zero evidence that she knew it was a double bounce. The ump didn't catch it. Renee Stubbs, who was commenting at courtside, did not catch it and thought Iga reached the ball in time, but of course, all of the online forum commentators who have seen the super slo-mo replay can with righteous indignity condemn all these people in hindsight.

Even if Iga lost that point, it was just taking the game to deuce. With that 6-1, 6-2 scoreline, no way that point was changing the outcome of the match.
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Even though she was literally looking at the ball into her racket? OK, well let's say that is correct. After the review, she could have went back up and gave her the point. Would have changed the outcome? No, but that should not matter in correcting a bad call.
 
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