Swing Vision AI line calls and Analysis

happyloman

Semi-Pro
@swupnil

I'm interested in subscribing, but do we lose access to *previously* analyzed videos once our subscription runs out? I was on a trial subscription that ended last month, and videos from before the subscription ended are showing up with "you analyzed over 120 minutes this month. Upgrade to unlock" dialog.

Thanks
 

happyloman

Semi-Pro
@swupnil

I've been using the apple watch setup to keep track of points (ace/winner/double fault/etc) during a match, and it's been working well.

I see an advertised feature on your web site:

Match Analysis (2021)

automated score keeping, stats tracking, line calling


What exactly is "automated score keeping"? Does this mean I will no longer have to use my apple watch to manually input the points (ace/winner/double fault/etc) once the feature is available in 2021 (2022?)

Thanks
 

onceascottie

New User
@swupnil

Can you create a user configurable setting to allow upload via mobile internet connection vs WiFi only? When travelling for league playoffs/sectionals, LTE and 5G is much faster and more consistent than some hotel wifi connections
 

1HBHFTW

Rookie
@swupnil

Can you create a user configurable setting to allow upload via mobile internet connection vs WiFi only? When travelling for league playoffs/sectionals, LTE and 5G is much faster and more consistent than some hotel wifi connections
Can’t you still upload if you turn off your wifi?
 

1HBHFTW

Rookie
Neither my t mobile nor Verizon iPhones upload over mobile connection

Neither my TMobile nor Verizon iPhones upload over mobile connection
Weird. On my ATT I can turn it on the cellular settings on my phone and it uploads over cell I believe. Nvm then!
 

onceascottie

New User
Neither my t mobile nor Verizon iPhones upload over mobile connection
When on mobile connection, the upload remains at 0% and doesn't budge. Cellular Data is enabled, everything thing else in the app works as if I were connected, just the mobile upload problem. When I turn on mobile hotspot on one phone, the other phones can connect to the hotspot and start uploading. I don't want to use the mobile hotspot because I have a low cap on mobile hotspot data (but high limit on non-hotspot data)
 

jwalk

New User
When on mobile connection, the upload remains at 0% and doesn't budge. Cellular Data is enabled, everything thing else in the app works as if I were connected, just the mobile upload problem. When I turn on mobile hotspot on one phone, the other phones can connect to the hotspot and start uploading. I don't want to use the mobile hotspot because I have a low cap on mobile hotspot data (but high limit on non-hotspot data)
If this happens to me I force quit the app and restart it. That usually works.
 

swupnil

Rookie
@1HBHFTW good point! In point by point you can manually keep track in real-time by swiping left if a serve is missed, but we can certainly override your input, especially if we notice you (pretty much) never swiped left to track the faults. Regarding storage, we've had complaints before that it wasn't aggressive enough but it certainly seems if you have tons of space available, we shouldn't have to worry about this. We are working on some updates in the coming weeks that should work well for everyone and address your concerns here.

@happyloman you don't lose previous videos, but they do become locked beyond the 120-minute limit of each month. If you ever resubscribe, access to those videos is granted back. Auto scoring was meant to be released end of 2021 but we had a few delays. We're on track for this quarter. Initially you will still need to keep score on Apple Watch Game by Game, but everything else will be automated (who won the point, 1st/2nd serve, how the point was won).

@onceascottie yep working on adding a user configurable setting for that this quarter. Currently, we only support uploads over Wifi to keep things simple.
 

1HBHFTW

Rookie
@1HBHFTW good point! In point by point you can manually keep track in real-time by swiping left if a serve is missed, but we can certainly override your input, especially if we notice you (pretty much) never swiped left to track the faults. Regarding storage, we've had complaints before that it wasn't aggressive enough but it certainly seems if you have tons of space available, we shouldn't have to worry about this. We are working on some updates in the coming weeks that should work well for everyone and address your concerns here.
Is this override something that's available now to turn on or something that's in development? Switching racket to other hand to swipe between serves messes up my rhythm and some of my opponents take like 3 seconds between 1st and second serves, so it's not really an option to switch hands and swipe for the their faults either.

If the override (or automatic) 1st/2nd serve option is already available can you let me know how to turn it on? If it's not yet np, just want to make sure I'm not overlooking a feature that's already there.
 
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Auto scoring was meant to be released end of 2021 but we had a few delays. We're on track for this quarter. Initially you will still need to keep score on Apple Watch Game by Game, but everything else will be automated (who won the point, 1st/2nd serve, how the point was won).
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@swupnil Is it possible to add an option to add point by point or game by game inputs while watching the video at home so that we can still get an score overlay without having used the Apple Watch during recording ?
 

swupnil

Rookie
@1HBHFTW override is in development!

@rider4ever no not yet. We will add this later this year when we launch the auto scoring for Final Score sessions. You basically won't even have to manually do it but will have the option to edit points in case the A.I. gets anything wrong.
 

jwalk

New User
Question for you all. I tried to use an apple watch to keep score and stats for the first time the other night. I started with the advanced option and it was too much to try to keep up with at that time so I stopped using it after 4 games. Viewing the processed video you can't navigate through points like you usually can. I assumed this is because I stopped tracking the points. Is there there any way to delete the score keeping data and reprocess the match without the score tracking?
 
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1HBHFTW

Rookie
Question for you all. I tried to use an apple watch to keep score and stats for the first time the other night. I started with the advanced option and it was too much to try to keep up with at that time so I stopped using it after 4 games. Viewing the processed video you can't navigate through points like you usually can. I assumed this is because I stopped tracking the points. Is there there any way to delete the score keeping data and reprocess the match without the score tracking?
you can "export full video" (not just points) so that it saves to your phone, then go to "tracking" > Import and select the video. Choose final score when it asks your tracking preference and it will reupload as a separate match
 

jwalk

New User
you can "export full video" (not just points) so that it saves to your phone, then go to "tracking" > Import and select the video. Choose final score when it asks your tracking preference and it will reupload as a separate match
Yeah I guess that'd be one way to do it. Be nice if there was an easier way.

One other thing for @swupnil - Is there anyway to increase the apple watch screen refresh rate when you are setting up the mount using the iphone. It'd be easier to just see a real time video feed rather than what is shown now. Seems like it pings the camera every few seconds and sometimes it a little bit of work to get the camera set up just right.
 
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swupnil

Rookie
@jwalk if you DM me the session link, we can reset it completely for you and remove all of the scoring data. For the watch refresh rate, that's been a bit tricky as we need to support older watches gracefully. We may add a faster refresh rate for the more modern watches at some point though.
 

derick232

Rookie
So I've been using Swingvision for a few years now and consistently my biggest problem has been getting the phone mounted well. I didn't want to shell out the money for the fence mount so I've tried tripods some other fence mounts but they are either not high enough for good video or not secure enough on the fence. And if I'm playing at a club for a league match I don't really want to have a tripod on one side of the court during a match. So I came up with a new curtain mounting option. I designed an angled mount for my phone and 3D printed it with a magnet imbedded in the print. It essentially uses two strong magnets, one in the phone mount and one on the other side of the curtain to hold it up. I have about an 8 foot reach that's good enough for me. to get good video.

I plan to test it out at my next league match and I'll let you know how it goes. I'm thinking about adding bubble levels and another magnet to help align perfectly with the court.

You can see pictures here.
 

pedrogcr

New User
You can see pictures here.
Hey Derrick, can you make the pictures public or allow access to it? I'm also looking at mounting options (currently use a cheap selfie stick with some hooks attached to the back) and would love to see your design.
 

derick232

Rookie
Hey Derrick, can you make the pictures public or allow access to it? I'm also looking at mounting options (currently use a cheap selfie stick with some hooks attached to the back) and would love to see your design.
Should be good to go now. It's very simple, but in my testing so far seems to work great. Next step will be to make it work with a chain link fence.
 

happyloman

Semi-Pro
@swupnil
I'm no longer able to login to " swing . tennis / login " , getting "Invalid Apple Sign In request, please try again." Is this issue site-wide or just me? (I had no issues signing in the past two months"
 
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