Sympathy for Murray?

Beckerserve

Legend
Obviously a hip replacement for a singles player realistically means top 20 tennis is impossible. He is incredibly unfortunate.
He must be super frustrated looking at the next Gen as he must feel but for the hip he could still be no.3 in world now.
He was more troublesome to better versions of Rafa and Novak and Roger than any of the Next Gen are to current versions.
I feel for him and also Del Potro as same applies to him
 
Obviously a hip replacement for a singles player realistically means top 20 tennis is impossible. He is incredibly unfortunate.
He must be super frustrated looking at the next Gen as he must feel but for the hip he could still be no.3 in world now.
He was more troublesome to better versions of Rafa and Novak and Roger than any of the Next Gen are to current versions.
I feel for him and also Del Potro as same applies to him
I like the Muzziah, but hopefully he retires soon for the sake of his health and his family
 

Mainad

Bionic Poster
It's clearly frustrating for him (and for other former top players like Del Potro) that persistent injury is preventing any kind of comeback and at the same time he has to witness his former peers like Nadal and Djokovic (and maybe even old Fed) still able to compete at the highest level for the highest titles without any injury concerns at all. It wouldn't be so bad if they were all in the same boat but it's like some have been able to dodge the bullets that have hit Andy, Delpo and others squarely in the vitals making them unable to play more than 1 or 2 matches at a time.

He must be happy of course with what he has been able to achieve but it must be such a psychological blow to see former opponents still playing like it was 2009 whilst he and others have to sit on the sidelines nursing their crippled bodies!
Life can be so good to some and cruelly unfair to others but it is what it is.
 

NatF

Bionic Poster
Whatever happens for the remainder of Murray's career he'll always have Cincy 2020 to look back on.
 

Kralingen

Professional
10 years of a sustained top 10 level in the strongest era of competition ever (I don’t care, the era with prime Big 3 is the strongest) is quite an achievement and he actually beats a lot of ATGs such as Borg, McEnroe, even Sampras in longevity and matches played.

I don’t think Murray is that tragic of a player with 3 GS, 14 Masters, the two Olympic golds, and a year end #1. He has wins over prime Djokovic at USO 2012 and Wimbledon 2013 that took a higher degree of difficulty than any non-Wawrinka slam since then. His legacy is secure.
 

malbaker86

Hall of Fame
No because he achieved about what he was going to achieve even had he stayed healthy. He wasn’t about to win another slam with a resurgent Rafa and Novak around and these new kids sniping each other out. It’s sad in a sense he can’t go out the way he deserves to go out though
 

Shaolin

G.O.A.T.
I feel more sympathy for the thousands of players out there with equal or more talent that never got the opportunity to develop their game and play pro at all (due to lack of resources, $ or maybe they live in a country with no tournaments or federation).

Murray and Delpo are quite lucky in the big picture.
 

Mainad

Bionic Poster
No because he achieved about what he was going to achieve even had he stayed healthy. He wasn’t about to win another slam with a resurgent Rafa and Novak around and these new kids sniping each other out. It’s sad in a sense he can’t go out the way he deserves to go out though
Who knows what he could have gone on to achieve had his 2016 levels of fitness endured to the present?
 

USO

Hall of Fame
As much as I feel for him and del Potro, the latter whom I am a huge fan of, I think I feel happiness for them that they got to win slams and have the careers they had and the financial solvency. In no way have either been hard done by.
Del Potro has a much better attitude than Murray. Murray’s on court behaviour is cringeworthy. Always screaming at himself like a crazy man. Not very likeable.
 

GhostOfNKDM

Hall of Fame
Del Potro has a much better attitude than Murray. Murray’s on court behaviour is cringeworthy. Always screaming at himself like a crazy man. Not very likeable.
Ummm... I'm not going to defend Murray's behavior but the contrast you draw is unfair.

Delpo is no angel. He plays possum, deliberately takes time reviewing ball marks and needles opponents by engaging with the umpire instead of focusing his own game.
 

smalahove

Hall of Fame
I feel more sympathy for the thousands of players out there with equal or more talent that never got the opportunity to develop their game and play pro at all (due to lack of resources, $ or maybe they live in a country with no tournaments or federation).

Murray and Delpo are quite lucky in the big picture.
And getting injured before breaking through. Seeing the success of Karatsev, I wonder how many other players didn't make it past that one - or several - debilitating injury, but could have made their mark, just as Aslan K, given the chance ...
 

BeatlesFan

Bionic Poster
I feel sympathy for Andy because he knows that if he was healthy, he'd still be top 4 in the world. His frustration must be acute, he just needs to look around and see no competition aside from three old men. If Murray had his original hip, he's mentally 10 times stronger than any player under 33 and a better overall player as well. I admire his drive, determination and desperation to get back to a high level in tennis. If any of the next gen pansies had his fanatical passion for tennis, maybe they'd step up and challenge for big titles instead of being on their phones 20 hours a day and being obsessed with social media.
 

Shaolin

G.O.A.T.
And getting injured before breaking through. Seeing the success of Karatsev, I wonder how many other players didn't make it past that one - or several - debilitating injury, but could have made their mark, just as Aslan K, given the chance ...
Yep that too. A guy I used to hit with a few years ago was a blue chip college player, won some Futures (beat Shapovalov and others) but then had to retire from tennis at like 22 after wearing a flat spot in his hip joint. They did surgeries but nothing they could do to fully fix it. Career over before it started.
 

TheNachoMan

Hall of Fame

zagor

Bionic Poster
Of course, would love to see him on tour in top shape.

His physical playing style took toll on his body. It happens with everyone who choose defensive style. Nadal is exception - many thought his career would be over by 26. But he still going strong at 35.
Nadal dictates points far more than Murray ever did.
 

Jokervich

Hall of Fame
Well he's a multi millionaire living a comfortable life and already over-achieved for his ability level, so you can't feel too sorry for him.

Also if he had been more intelligent about his playing style, he could have prolonged his career like Djokovic, Nadal and Federer have done. His grinding, physical game was unsustainable and it was always going to end in a huge injury like this.
 

zagor

Bionic Poster
Still Nadal' unorthodox style is the most physically taxing IMO.
Nadal just has that huge weapon in his FH that ends points or yanks the other guy around, nothing in Murray's arsenal compares.

Also Nadal has much better offensive footwork which is a big part of why his 1-2 punch is so effective.
 

D.Nalby12

G.O.A.T.
Nadal just has that huge weapon in his FH that ends points or yanks the other guy around, nothing in Murray's arsenal compares.

Also Nadal has much better offensive footwork which is a big part of why his 1-2 punch is so effective.
But don't you think his stokes mechanism and movement put a lot of pressure on his body. Murray strokes are more Orthodox.
 
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chjtennis

G.O.A.T.
Obviously a hip replacement for a singles player realistically means top 20 tennis is impossible. He is incredibly unfortunate.
He must be super frustrated looking at the next Gen as he must feel but for the hip he could still be no.3 in world now.
He was more troublesome to better versions of Rafa and Novak and Roger than any of the Next Gen are to current versions.
I feel for him and also Del Potro as same applies to him
Murray was almost Big 3 level. Delpo could only produce tennis of such quality occasionally.
 

Zardoz7/12

Professional
I have no sympathy for someone who was told time and time again to play more aggressive in order to put less strain on his body, his rope-a-dope style, the counter puncher isn't something to be recommended in the long term. Murray is one of tennis' greatest grinders but in the end he's ground himself down.

Djokovic and Nadal have something Murray doesn't have and that's helped them in the long term, they can finish points at will, Murray cannot.

I have the utmost respect for Murray in regards of what he has achieved in his career but he should have stuck with the Lendl-plan of aggressive play from the forehand wing and to finish points off early. Not bashing Murray, I've been a fan of his since 2005!
 
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