Synthetic gut Mains / Polyester Crosses Club

Rabbit

G.O.A.T.
Always thought prince lightning XX was a good syngut main.
I tried to like Lightning XX, but it was too "springy" for my tastes. When Prince string was available to all shops, Lightning was probably the most popular string though (hence my trying it).
 

hurworld

Hall of Fame
Not to be a pest, but have you played with both TiMo and Ghost Wire? If so, could you compare/contrast? (BTW - I dig the Ghost Wire moniker... :) and the price)
I have only played with Ghost Wire and not TiMO. TiMO is not available here in the UK when I was searching for a thin round poly. I have bought a reel of Ghost Wire 1.10 and trying different main strings with it now.
 

Rafedovic

New User
I am a big syngut fan and have tried a lot in the past two years after having my wrist wrecked by Lux 4G. I am going to give Gosen AK Pro CX / Kirschbaum Max Power a go soon.

The AK Pro CX is the best syngut I have ever used and I really like it in a full bed - prefer it to any multifilaments. It holds tension amazingly well and has decent snapback in a full bed (it doesn't lock up).

For some context, my current favourite setup is Babolat VS Touch / Kirschbaum Max Power (at 60/54lb). Perfect combo of comfort, control, power and tension maintenance in a Vcore Pro 97 310g, leather grip and some lead in the head - 360g strung. I previously used Lux polys in this hybrid but any version of Alu lost tension so quick it was a waste of gut, and 4G destroyed my wrist. Max Power is a stiff string but no where near as bad as 4G and its tension maintenance is just as good as 4G.

Anyway, I don't use that setup in wet conditions so I will be subbing the VS with the AK Pro CX and will report back here.
Did you get a chance to try the AK Pro CX yet @Yoneyama ? I have a vcore pro 100 and will be trying AK 16 with PTFire 17, just wondering about tension.
 

max

Legend
After many, many, many dollars spent on string (and cortisone), I think I have arrived at a "perfect" string bed. It's not too firm, not too soft, just right. Synthetic gut mains with a poly cross is just about the perfect blend of two worlds. I like the feel of synthetic gut because that's what I grew up playing with; well that and natural gut. But, sticking polyester in the crosses adds a nice element of control to the mix. The result is a string bed that is very livable and user friendly. It has touch, enough power, and control to satisfy. I also find that the synthetic gut breaks when it's supposed to and you don't wind up with a dead set of string that'll wind up hurting your arm. If it breaks too quick, just up your gauge.

My personal preference is Gosen OGSM 1.15 in the mains at 54 and Luxilon Ace 1.12 in the crosses at 50. I have it in 3 rackets in rotation and get about 6 sets out of a string job. When one of the three breaks, I string them all. Cost per string job is a staggering $10 :).

For those of you who also like this setup, what do you use?
Yeah, this sounds nice and I should try it. But I am apprehensive of getting only 6 sets of tennis out of a string job. I've got a stringer, but I don't want to devote so much time to stringing. I like getting 2-3 times as many sets out of a string job.
 

Rabbit

G.O.A.T.
Yeah, this sounds nice and I should try it. But I am apprehensive of getting only 6 sets of tennis out of a string job. I've got a stringer, but I don't want to devote so much time to stringing. I like getting 2-3 times as many sets out of a string job.
You can adjust that by using a thicker gauge. What gauge do you currently play with?
 

max

Legend
I'm using 17 gauge in a Prince Phantom 93P. I figure the tight pattern could use the smaller string. But I used to expect to get 15 sets or so out of 16 g. syngut with my Volkl C-9.

I like stringing, to be sure.
 

Rabbit

G.O.A.T.
Yeah, and Rob, I guess I'm keen on finding and using string-INsensitive frames! :)
I don't think it exists. A string insensitive frame is the holy grail! A buddy of mine who worked arm in arm with world class pros told me that Boris Becker used to refer to his racket as the "string holder". He put that much emphasis on his strings. Then again, Becker played the same frame from start to finish and when they quit making it bought the damn mold! So, despite his emphasis, the frame must count for something. (He even had them make his frames with a non-functional screw in the butt cap.)
 

kkm

Professional
I don't think it exists. A string insensitive frame is the holy grail! A buddy of mine who worked arm in arm with world class pros told me that Boris Becker used to refer to his racket as the "string holder". He put that much emphasis on his strings. Then again, Becker played the same frame from start to finish and when they quit making it bought the damn mold! So, despite his emphasis, the frame must count for something. (He even had them make his frames with a non-functional screw in the butt cap.)
BB was one of the early pros who had a stringer - Uli Kühnel - traveling with him. Uli used a True Tension machine and string spreaders. Later on Uli developed a stringing machine based on the support system of the True Tension, but it failed commercially. From what I’ve heard BB was an investor in that venture.

 

max

Legend
I don't think it exists. A string insensitive frame is the holy grail! A buddy of mine who worked arm in arm with world class pros told me that Boris Becker used to refer to his racket as the "string holder". He put that much emphasis on his strings. Then again, Becker played the same frame from start to finish and when they quit making it bought the damn mold! So, despite his emphasis, the frame must count for something. (He even had them make his frames with a non-functional screw in the butt cap.)

oh, umm, Dunlop Max 200 G would be a great candidate.
 

aarenes

Rookie
BB was one of the early pros who had a stringer - Uli Kühnel - traveling with him. Uli used a True Tension machine and string spreaders. Later on Uli developed a stringing machine based on the support system of the True Tension, but it failed commercially. From what I’ve heard BB was an investor in that venture.

So is this like Sergetti stringing system from Boris Becker days
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Irvin

Talk Tennis Guru
So is this like Sergetti stringing system from Boris Becker days
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No it’s a bit like John Gugel’s video showing Boris Becker’s stringer Uli Kuhnel and his true tension machine and string Spreader and advertising Xception string all in German.
 

kkm

Professional
When you look at the turntable on the Xception machine, the clamp system is very similar to the True Tension clamp system. But the Xception machine doesn’t have side supports, like the True Tension had at 3 and 9 o’clock, and which required stinging crosses around 30% lower than the mains. The Xception 6 and 12 o’clock supports also look different. I guess just the “plate” is similar to the True Tension. IPDS stood for integrated progressive dynamic stringing or something like that. I don’t know whether Uli Kühnel favored some sort of proportional stringing system?
 
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