Discussion in 'Racquets' started by Bubbagumptennis, Jan 14, 2013.
yes, thats fine
Whats the string spacing like on the 16 mains version? I was wondering the differences between the 2 if anyone went all in and bought both versions.
I took my 315 for a quick test drive this afternoon for about 1/2 hr. I am a current PT280 player, 1hbh, SW forehand, Solid 4.0 USTA player. I strung it up to with MSV 17L Black at 51 lbs. I was able to compare the 315 against my PT280 (same string & tension).
My overall impression is that the stick is steady and gets a ton of spin, but definitely lacks the plow due to the static weight. I felt that the stringbed is a little dead when I hit off the sweetspot, particularly towards the top of the racquet off both wings. I think MSV may not be the best fit for this racquet but that is TBD.
When compared against the PT280 there is a noticeable difference on plush, which I would say advantage PT. On control I give it to the TF315 as I was able to turn the ball with very little effort. I felt the racquet flex is definitely in line with the PT280, and with lead tape there's definitely potential to replicate that classic feel.
It sounds safe to say that, if you like the PT630/280 but find it a touch too heavy, that the 315 would be a good choice to start with and mod. to your ideal weight & balance. I may have to try one and just deal with the pallet shape until I can track down a tk82s.
hmm, sounds pro stocky to me
Well dudes I am in. Dri, VSBab, Gads, Aimr..too many esteemed racquet kings say good things for me to resist this. Especially since I started playing tennis again and my first stick was the old 320 and then the newer v02 max.
Memories of bigtime open string patterns flashed before me with those sticks, so I went with the 18 mains. I prefer tight patterns.
It sounds like the SW is not really 301 from what everyone is saying. Maybe more like 315 or so. At least that is what I am hoping, as I don't lead up as much as some of you guys and I want a decent SW.
you must resist the enchanting calls of the sirens! you must be strong! do not succumb! do not succumb, i say! :lol:
Yep, but then GAVNA chimed in and all was lost
You will not be disappointed
I know I won't . Love the classic feel. So tough to track down especially in a larger head size and fairly low weight. Cranking up the SW may prove to be a challenge, but we shall see - I may just do 6 grams at 12 to start.
Sounds like it is very stable so lead at 3 and 9 hopefully won't be needed.
Can't wait to compare it to my leaded up Pure Storm Team, which is a rather awesome stick as well.
Any love for the TFight 295?
The 295 is just a lighter 320, just like the 305 is a lighter 325.
Finally another outing with the 315 18 mains tonight. Again, it did not disappoint. However, it's small deficiencies were felt. On a couple of hard hit passing shots by my opposition I reached the 315 out and it buckled. I think a some lead in the hoop will fix that. I started trying to go for my flat 1st serve and got a few in. It still didn't seemingly pack the same punch as the Pro 1 in this aspect. Again the control and feel are the best I've experienced since my return to tennis 5 years ago. I hit some LAZERS on return of serves! This racquet is the real deal. I just hope it doesn't lead me down the path to wanting to try some pro stock frames and have to shell out that kind of cash!! Went to the TW site to order a 2nd 315 18 and saw the 4 3/8's are already on back order. the run on these has begun!!
Racquets kings like you make me really curious on the TF315. A few years ago I used the TF335 16x20 like you did for a while as well.
Please let me know your experiences with the TF315 and tell me how it compares with the TF335.
It is only too bad I am not able to demo the TF315 because it isn't still available in Europe.
is it possible to ship the order from TW USA?
That would be pretty expensive to me because they often charge douane charges with parcels from the USA.
Have you leaded yours up yet or are these the stock impressions?
Yes definitely. It has been a while since I have used the 335, bu I will do my best to compare them.
Anyone know when it is being released in EU?
Tecnifibre France told me JUNE.
And TF told TW -- NEVER...
Has anyone leaded one of these sticks up yet? Interested in hearing the results. I think I may stop at lunch and pickup some 1/4" lead tape, add a little at 10 and 2 and see how it plays.
I think you almost have to lead them up. I will be adding lead from 10-2 to get the SW a little higher. Hopefully there is no twisting, but it sounds like a stable frame. So as long that is the case, Im just going to go with lead at the tip.
Stock impressions. I try to play a frame stock for a couple outings to determine where any weight would/should be placed for my liking. 10 & 2 are my normal starting places. Although for this frame 12 o'clock may need some as well. Playing tomorrow so I will try 3 grams at 10 & 2 (6 total). May add 3 @ 12 & 8-10 in the handle depending on how the initial test works out. Got a 2nd I'm going to leave stock for comparison purposes.
Nice..you are saving me some time then as I do the same .
if i normally use a 4 1/2 grip, what grip size do i order if i want to change the pallet?
6 grams at 10 and 2 is what I am going to try tonight.
Cool..let us know how that balances. I am guessing (hoping) around 4 points HL.
Wow these specs look really amazing! Can anyone compare the 18/20 version to the pure storm tour gt? I really like it, but I feel that it is sometimes a bit numb, and lacks accuracy when hitting out (the type of accuracy that head pro stock frames have).
How would spin/heft compare between these? Also would love something a little more flexible.
How close is the 18x20 to the James Blake frame?
His mold is the dunlop 300T, which was originally a Major racquet based on the Head PT630..is this correct?
Just wondering if there is a similarity there. I'll have mine tomorrow.
Will be good to know what you think of the frame
3 and 9. That's where this thing (16m) responded to lead for me tonight. Big time. Had initially started with lead at 12 to up the swingweight, didn't do a whole lot for me except slow the stick down. When I transferred most of the lead to 3/9, started to sing.
Still work to be done to get it just right, but I'm closer now.
The feel of this sweet spot is just delicious.
How much lead did you transfer to 3 and 9? I could be down with this.
I got mine in. Will get base SW measured this afternoon. Balance looks on point. I do not think this is a 98 headsize. I think it is a little smaller.Gorgeous PJ, no errors or misprints on mine.
It was ghetto style, on the fly weight adjustment, just picking and peeling and sticking, seeing what felt right. Ended up with two grams at 12 (one long 8inch strip) and approximately four grams (two on each side) at 3/9. Will add a touch more at 3/9 for next time.
Sweet. For the record mine is 303 on the rdc. I'll weigh when I get home. May have gotten
One a little lighter like dri352 had. Regardless, I'm leading it when I get home.
What's your ideal setup with the 16m?
Ok killer..so you are playing with the SW a little low too? This is a good sign.
Hey Roll...would you say this racquet is on the "players" side of things? I say that due to the very thin beam and control oriented / small sweet spot feel most are talking about.
Players stick. Very low powered, soft, no favors, requires player to do the lifting. Lead at 3/9 seems to open things up a tad, but still very much a players bat. And this is the 16m. 18m maybe even more so.
thanks Gads. same bucket as say the Prestige MP?
also...can anyone confirm that these have the same exact rectangular gripshape as the Head's (except the Speeds)
I broke down and bought an 18m. Haven't hit it yet but I did pull the grip off. It has a TK82 pallet so it will be the same. I think I'm going to swap pallets with a Speed 300 I have that has the TK82s.
Have you tried **** for pallets?
Ok here is my initial review after 3 hours.
Knowing this racquet would swing too light after getting it measured, I put 2 grams at 3, 9 and 12. It weighed 342, SW around 318, 5-6pts hl. I wanted to salute the past so I had the shop throw in POSG at 56#s.
Serves were solid. This racquet has "the sound" on contact. Not difficult, but I could tell the racquet was swinging a little fast for me. There is very good spin on the serves and flats are very precise.
At first the racquet was swinging fast for me so it took a little time to get used to groundstrokes. Once I got the timing though, I started hitting the nice line drive balls with crazy precision. The racquet feel is real similar to the pt630 to me. It is extremely comfortable, and hitting forehands and backhands with it is incredibly accurate. Easily as good as the Dunlop 200 to me. And speaking of that, I have an old Mfil in my closet. It appears to be the same size, and I think this is a 95 and not a 98.
Compared to the 200, the Tec has more power. But it is not a powerful racquet. It is a little hard to describe, but I was able to hit deep and controlled shots after getting used to the stick. Besides the feel, the consistency and accuracy of the racquet is the selling point. I found it easier to hit tight corners over and over again. This racquet was rewarding, but you have to turn to the side and prep on all your shots and have good footwork to get the most out of this stick. I also think you have to play this racquet at a little heavier weight since it swings so fast. I had no trouble hitting approaches, it was very easy to fling them over the net, which is how I know when a racquet is too heavy for me.
Thought the grip shape would bug me, but so far it is ok. It is the first Head grip I have used in 1/4 size. That is the way to go for me. I had no trouble finding my grips.
I also added 2 more grams to 12. I want to see how that plays and add a little plow. Still need time to nail the lead so im interested in seeing what you folks do. Im currently 5 pts hl and at 344 - 325 SW. Definitely do not want to go much heavier as the ability to whip a 12oz racquet is pretty awesome.
So far the racquet is very very impressive to me. If you can generate your own power and know how to mod racquets and make them fairly heavy, its incredible. It also is incredibly comfortable for the level of feel it provides.
Do you think the comfort is because of the handle? Is the silicone in the handle noticeable?
I think the comfort is due to a combination of the flex, the layup and the silicone.
I have read that you played the TFight 305, what would be your comparisons between the two racquets as far as performance goes? I know the 305 is much stiffer, and I play the 325 myself, but just out of curiosity.
If you guys are interested, here is the TW review of the 16M version!
I would ignore some of the comments from the testers like: "It reminds me of Head Speed 16x19" or "Presige pro"...
IMO, the TF315 has nothing incommon with those two, and those two are different from each other...
I think the 305 is a little easier to use than the 315. It hits a nice line drive ball and reminds me a lot of the blade. The issue I had with it was the stiffness was pretty high.
The 315 beats it in control and feel. 305 has a little more power. They both hit a similar ball. I think the 305 is the closest stick to the Blade out there.
What's with that 18x19 pattern on the 305? Is that considered open or closed? Since it still has only 19 crosses, it should be fairly open? Its like if a 16x19 and a 18x20 had a baby.
Its real closed. My friend randomly demoed it and we both loved it. He ended up buying the Juice Pro though. But it was basically the catalyst that got me into the Blade.
My issues with it were the grip shape was weird (not the same as the one on the 315) and it was stiff.
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