Talk Tennnis hypothetical scenario - Murray with Wawrinka's FH v/s Wawrinka with Murray's ROS - Who would be a better player?

[Rafa4LifeEver]

Yes, you read it.
In my opinion, Murray's Forehand is the biggest weakness in his game (2nd serve is another) while Return of Serve is the biggest weakness in the Swiss star Wawrinka's game.

Despite that, both have played spectacular tennis and won 3 slams each.

Now, if we were to hypothetically replace Murray's forehand with Wawrinka's Forehand, essentially upgrading it; while simultaneously upgrading Wawrinka's ROS by replacing it with Murray's ROS; whom do you expect to have more upside in the game as well as achieve more success in their respective careers overall?

Please vote and discuss, care to elaborate your POV which would be great for all of us.

 

[Rafa4LifeEver]

@RS your take?

 

[Rafa4LifeEver]

@Mainad does our hero finally cross the ATG mark with the upgraded FH?

 

[Mainad]

I voted Wawrinka because, although he had the more powerful forehand, his ROS let him down quite a bit. Murray's forehand was obviously weaker but he got by with it while his ROS was second only to Djokovic's and won him much more.

 

[Mainad]

@Mainad does our hero finally cross the ATG mark with the upgraded FH?

Well , you must know by now that I think he already crossed that particular threshold anyway but, of course, you're referring to the 6 Slams Or You're Out scenario favoured by many on here. Would he have won 3 more with Stan's forehand , who knows?

 

[Rafa4LifeEver]

I voted Wawrinka because, although he had the more powerful forehand, his ROS let him down quite a bit. Murray's forehand was obviously weaker but he got by with it while his ROS was second only to Djokovic's and won him much more.

Thanks for the input.
On a side note, how many lost slam finals do you see Murray converting into wins with Wawrinka's forehand?

 

[Rafa4LifeEver]

Well , you must know by now that I think he already crossed that particular threshold anyway but, of course, you're referring to the 6 Slams Or You're Out scenario favoured by many on here. Would he have won 3 more with Stan's forehand , who knows?

I do know that, mate. But I was referring to the 6 slam mark.

 

[Mainad]

Thanks for the input.
On a side note, how many lost slam finals do you see Murray converting into wins with Wawrinka's forehand?

I really don't know because a player's game is made up of so many different elements besides 1 particular shot. I prefer to blame Murray's often haphazard mentality for failing to press home his advantages rather than any particular weaknesses in his game

 

[Holmes]

Wawrinka. Murray didn't attack very well, and even with a bazooka forehand this wouldn't necessarily change - in fact nothing might change since he might not even use it to its best.

 

[ghostofMecir]

Wawa with Murray’s return would be very difficult to defeat. But no player with a one-handed BH can have that type of return.

 

[droliver]

Stan's ability to reliably get a neutral ball back in play off a serve is kind of underrated. It was a high % play even though it isn't really impressive looking.

 

[President]

Wawrinka would be a monster with Murray’s return of serve, which is easily top 5 all time.

 

[Rafa4LifeEver]

I really don't know because a player's game is made up of so many different elements besides 1 particular shot. I prefer to blame Murray's often haphazard mentality for failing to press home his advantages rather than any particular weaknesses in his game

Alright

 

[Rafa4LifeEver]

Wawrinka would be a monster with Murray’s return of serve, which is easily top 5 all time.

What other slams he'd win in that case? Because his movement is still not elite

 

[dropshotlikeitshot]

What other slams he'd win in that case? Because his movement is still not elite

Maybe AO 13 & 15, USO 14? All 3 lost in 5 sets where a vastly improved ROS could flip the result.

 

[BauerAlmeida]

Murray because a good forehand has a bigger impact on the game than a good RoS.