Target Weight

Just interested in seeing what the target weights of people on these forums are. What weight do you feel you play best at? I'm 6'2" and have found that I play best around 186 lbs.

Cheers,

Greek Goliath
 

J011yroger

Talk Tennis Guru
I am 6'3" and I think I play best at 165lb, anything over 175lb and I feel like a slob.

Of course I could stand to put on some muscle, but that is another topic.

J
 

athiker

Hall of Fame
Just interested in seeing what the target weights of people on these forums are. What weight do you feel you play best at? I'm 6'2" and have found that I play best around 186 lbs.

Cheers,

Greek Goliath
I am 6'3" and I think I play best at 165lb, anything over 175lb and I feel like a slob.

Of course I could stand to put on some muscle, but that is another topic.

J
I'm 5' 10" & I play best at 240 :shock:
Wow, I was getting a complex there for a while!...thanks for getting it back to us mere mortals lethalforce.

6' 3" and feel like a slob, Jrog? I'm 6 foot none and my target is 190. I am 197 right now, down from 210 not that long ago (winters are tough). I seem to stall at 196 lately. The last time I weighed 170 was halfway through hiking the Appalachian Trail over over 10 years ago!...after 3 months of not being able to carry enough food to eat. :) I started at about 200, but that after adding some weight on purpose. The time before that was H.S. over a 1/4 century ago...so we might want to include age in the equation!

I spent most of my 20's in the mid-180's and was in good shape for the most part. I know now, in my mid-40's, I've no doubt in addition to gaining fat, have replaced some former muscle with fat so below 180 or so should be my goal, but one step at a time.
 

OHBH

Semi-Pro
I'm 6' 0'' and currently weigh 182
I'm in good shape but want to put on a bit more upper body muscle and lose a little bit of fat, but i don't see myself ever dropping below 175
 

J011yroger

Talk Tennis Guru
6' 3" and feel like a slob, Jrog?
It is about right, I just hate the feeling of carrying around extra weight. It comes off pretty easily over the outdoor season.

Even if I manage to put on 10lb in the November-January timeframe.





Stupid bent arm forehand, busted my ass all winter on it, can't wait to get new pics and see if it looks better.

J
 

coyfish

Hall of Fame
Not trying to pick at your question but it doesn't really illustrate any point.

Depends on your bodyfat %, genetic build, muscle, cardio . . . etc. Too many variables to formulate any type of conclusion over others responses.
 

athiker

Hall of Fame
I actually meant to include the "anything over 175" part. :oops:

Hmm...maybe I should reassess my goal even more, you don't really look as thin up top as I imagined a 6' 3" 170 ish guy would. I agree it is amazing how one can notice even carrying a bit more weight than one is used to around a tennis court. I can definitely notice when I go for a good run as well. Strangely, I don't seem to notice it much sitting in front of a computer and snacking during the day however. :confused:
 
Not trying to pick at your question but it doesn't really illustrate any point.

Depends on your bodyfat %, genetic build, muscle, cardio . . . etc. Too many variables to formulate any type of conclusion over others responses.
It wasn't really a question, so much, as a survey to see what people think they play best at. What people answer isn't going to change my target weight at all.

Cheers,

Greek Goliath
 

LeeD

Bionic Poster
Played my best at 5'11" and 135lbs.
Lost to RussellSimpson at 6'3" and 155 my second year of Q's.
Lost to JoaroSoares the previous year, him 6'4" and about 150lbs.
I hate tall guys who can move. They always beat me.
 

T Woody

Rookie
I was at my best at the end of last season at 6'4" 200. I did a strength cycle in the winter, which moved me up to 225. Felt like I was playing with a weight vest on when I got back on the court 6 weeks ago at that weight. I'm now at 215 and feel like I'm moving better now than I was at 200, so I'll probably hover here for most of the season.
 

J_R_B

Hall of Fame
I'm 5'10". I had a torn meniscus & knee surgery in 2001 and then moved across the country in 2002 before I got back on the court and didn't start playing again until summer 2003. After almost 2 years of inactivity, my weight ballooned to 245. I've been dieting and working out since Spring 2004 and while there have been ups and downs, I'm currently down to 205. I'd like to eventually get to 185-190. I have a pretty big frame, and I'd be too skinny lower than that.
 

J011yroger

Talk Tennis Guru
I actually meant to include the "anything over 175" part. :oops:

Hmm...maybe I should reassess my goal even more, you don't really look as thin up top as I imagined a 6' 3" 170 ish guy would. I agree it is amazing how one can notice even carrying a bit more weight than one is used to around a tennis court. I can definitely notice when I go for a good run as well. Strangely, I don't seem to notice it much sitting in front of a computer and snacking during the day however. :confused:
I have pretty broad shoulders, and wear a 42L sportcoat.

My delts, triceps, and back are respectable, where I lack is chest.

But yea, I am pretty broad shouldered for being so lanky, just fine boned and rangy. People are often surprised at how light I am.

The lightest I ever was was 155lbs at 6'3" the summer I started playing tennis again (2005 I think). Gym 3-4X week, and distance running, and absolutely perfect diet.

But I had to bump up the carbs and switch up my running and gym work to accomodate tennis. I put on some muscle and this summer will be ripped at 160-165. Currently hovering around the 175 mark. Stupid cold miserable and dark weather saps any motivation to do anything after work, except drink beer and eat garbage.

J
 

kiteboard

Banned
I'm 6' and 215 lbs. Was at 172 for 20 years. Now the only way to get down is starve. I'm would make a better hockey player than tennis. Nothing like the feel of crunching someone on the boards and leave him in a heap, knocked out. I out weigh Tyson when he first took the title.
When Leo the drug dealer sold my sister some bad lsd, and I went to talk to him about it, he bumped me and said, "Watch where you walk, chump!", and I decked him with a right cross, that split his scumbag face wide open, all the way down to the bone, and sent him to the hospital to get some serious stitches.
Happened to be at the same hospital to see my girl, at that time, who was a nurse there, to look at the injury to my forearm, that the fight caused. They rolled him in on a stretcher. He propped his head up off the stretcher, and looked straight at me. He was screaming, "You are dead, ***********", and so on. Left him in a babbling heap on the sidewalk, but my sister later killed herself. Brain was fried too badly. Still pisses me off. Left him with a few scars to remember her by. I think somebody took him out in a drug robbery.
 
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J011yroger

Talk Tennis Guru
Hey Jolly do you have any recent videos?
Link is in my sig.

Most recent one was from two Fridays ago.

I started off a little slow because it was F'ing freezing out, but picked it up a bit a couple minutes into it and started hitting in earnest.

J
 

J011yroger

Talk Tennis Guru
I'm 6' and 215 lbs. Was at 172 for 20 years. Now the only way to get down is starve. I'm would make a better hockey player than tennis. Nothing like the feel of crunching someone on the boards and leave him in a heap, knocked out.
There is a reason my narrow ass picked a sport where the other guy has to stay on his side of the net.

My center of gravity is too high for contact sports.

J
 

JoshDragon

Hall of Fame
It is about right, I just hate the feeling of carrying around extra weight. It comes off pretty easily over the outdoor season.

Even if I manage to put on 10lb in the November-January timeframe.





Stupid bent arm forehand, busted my ass all winter on it, can't wait to get new pics and see if it looks better.

J
Wow, you really like to copy Roger. You must have modeled your service motion right after him:

That's almost a dead perfect comparison.:)

 
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J011yroger

Talk Tennis Guru
Wow, you really like to copy Roger. You must have modeled your service motion right after him:

That's almost a dead perfect comparison.:)
Lol, with my bent arm Western FH and 2hbh, I am almost a clone.

If you watch my videos my motion isn't much like Roger's at all, in fact the only thing I would say I have that is similar to him is line call challenge ability.

J
 

JoshDragon

Hall of Fame
Lol, with my bent arm Western FH and 2hbh, I am almost a clone.

If you watch my videos my motion isn't much like Roger's at all, in fact the only thing I would say I have that is similar to him is line call challenge ability.

J
Oh, I didn't know that you had any videos. That's cool, I'll watch those.:)

Actually, Roger, used to be really good with the line calls but now he doesn't seem to get them right all that often.:/
 

J011yroger

Talk Tennis Guru
Oh, I didn't know that you had any videos. That's cool, I'll watch those.:)

Actually, Roger, used to be really good with the line calls but now he doesn't seem to get them right all that often.:/
I was playing a match against my buddy on clay, and hit what I thought was a 2nd serve ace up the middle.

He called it wide and I exclaimed "Challenge! Check the mark!".

So we walked over to it, and there was the thinnest line of untouched clay between the ballmark and the centerline.

I said "Well, at least I have something in common with Roger." and added another double fault onto the millions of previous ones.

J
 

JoshDragon

Hall of Fame
I was playing a match against my buddy on clay, and hit what I thought was a 2nd serve ace up the middle.

He called it wide and I exclaimed "Challenge! Check the mark!".

So we walked over to it, and there was the thinnest line of untouched clay between the ballmark and the centerline.

I said "Well, at least I have something in common with Roger." and added another double fault onto the millions of previous ones.

J
Lol, oh yeah. I know exactly what you mean, then.

Interesting video, your game is much different than mine. I can tell that your speed is one of your biggest assets. You are usually able to get in position for the ball and you've got good anticipation.

Your forehand is sometimes a bit shakey but your serve is pretty technically sound.

Thanks for posting the vids, J011y.
 
I have pretty broad shoulders, and wear a 42L sportcoat.

J
Son, you're a little bitty thing. I have to wear a 50L to get my shoulders in. Now I'll admit when I was in High School 35 years ago I was 175 and 6' and wearing a 42L. But that was before all those years lifting weights, playing football and softball and eating a bit too much.
 

J011yroger

Talk Tennis Guru
Son, you're a little bitty thing. I have to wear a 50L to get my shoulders in. Now I'll admit when I was in High School 35 years ago I was 175 and 6' and wearing a 42L. But that was before all those years lifting weights, playing football and softball and eating a bit too much.
So... You are saying that you could probably top my staggering 125lb bench?

J
 

J011yroger

Talk Tennis Guru
Lol, oh yeah. I know exactly what you mean, then.

Interesting video, your game is much different than mine. I can tell that your speed is one of your biggest assets. You are usually able to get in position for the ball and you've got good anticipation.

Your forehand is sometimes a bit shakey but your serve is pretty technically sound.

Thanks for posting the vids, J011y.
Actually my movement and balance are my biggest weakness against better players. My serve and forehand are biggest weapons, but I can miss with them, and my BH is my most solid and reliable shot.

J
 
So... You are saying that you could probably top my staggering 125lb bench?

J
Quite possibly as last year I was doing sets at 320 but my shoulder has been bothering me lately from volleyball and I could only do a couple of reps at 280 the other day before I decided I'd better stop. Now that I am back into tennis I kind of wish I hadn't lifted for power all those years. Supple I'm not and I find that the skinny guys have way better throwing arms which crosses over to serving pretty well I believe.
 

J011yroger

Talk Tennis Guru
Quite possibly as last year I was doing sets at 320 but my shoulder has been bothering me lately from volleyball and I could only do a couple of reps at 280 the other day before I decided I'd better stop. Now that I am back into tennis I kind of wish I hadn't lifted for power all those years. Supple I'm not and I find that the skinny guys have way better throwing arms which crosses over to serving pretty well I believe.
I think maybe you bigger guys just need a slightly different mechanic.

For me what works is the straight up, shoulder over shoulder tumbling javelin thrower over the top motion.

For guys like you, I think that you can get plenty of speed/spin, but you would have to derive your power from more of a rotational motion.

You aren't bigger than CC Sabathia, and he can throw a baseball 97mph, which translates to around a 145mph lefty serve.

Someone like me has a steep shoulder tilt, and front hip out, and then when I push off the front hip comes back, the front shoulder goes down catapulting the back shoulder and arm up into the ball.

I think the bigger guys would be better served by instead of loading the front leg and putting the hip out over the baseline, anchoring the front foot and coiling as you load the legs almost so that you can feel the stretch a little bit from your front hip to your back shoulder on a diagonal across your torso, and bring your racquet back into your trophy pose so that your arm is totally loose, but you feel a little stretch across your pecs. Then when you go to hit the ball and push off with your legs you will ever so slightly snap your front hip to rotate your hips to be a bit more open, and that will pull the back shoulder around as the front shoulder clears out of the way, your arm and racquet will naturally lag behind the back shoulder in the racquet drop. It would be like a giant sidearm catapult, and your racquethead speed would be sick. Then as your racquet gets pulled out of the drop you just steer it to the right angle of attack for flat/slice/top/kick. As long as you realize that your goal is to rotate more in the horizontal plane than the vertical one.

I know a couple of guys who serve like this and can absolutely bring it in the 120s, and nasty spin serves. And the best part is that because of the sideways rotation and slinging action of the arm it is tough to read at all.

It is funny, I chicken out when I have to throw anything light and can't do it.

I can't throw a baseball to save my life, because it feels like my arm is going to fly off and I panic and lock up.

I can serve the cover off a tennis ball on a warm day, and put up a representative throw of a football, but trying to put up a number with a baseball, no way in heck.

J
 

dlk

Hall of Fame
I'm 5'5" & play best at 165lbs. I have a lot of power there & yet retain my quickness.
 

ALten1

Rookie
I think maybe you bigger guys just need a slightly different mechanic.

For me what works is the straight up, shoulder over shoulder tumbling javelin thrower over the top motion.

For guys like you, I think that you can get plenty of speed/spin, but you would have to derive your power from more of a rotational motion.

You aren't bigger than CC Sabathia, and he can throw a baseball 97mph, which translates to around a 145mph lefty serve.

Someone like me has a steep shoulder tilt, and front hip out, and then when I push off the front hip comes back, the front shoulder goes down catapulting the back shoulder and arm up into the ball.

I think the bigger guys would be better served by instead of loading the front leg and putting the hip out over the baseline, anchoring the front foot and coiling as you load the legs almost so that you can feel the stretch a little bit from your front hip to your back shoulder on a diagonal across your torso, and bring your racquet back into your trophy pose so that your arm is totally loose, but you feel a little stretch across your pecs. Then when you go to hit the ball and push off with your legs you will ever so slightly snap your front hip to rotate your hips to be a bit more open, and that will pull the back shoulder around as the front shoulder clears out of the way, your arm and racquet will naturally lag behind the back shoulder in the racquet drop. It would be like a giant sidearm catapult, and your racquethead speed would be sick. Then as your racquet gets pulled out of the drop you just steer it to the right angle of attack for flat/slice/top/kick. As long as you realize that your goal is to rotate more in the horizontal plane than the vertical one.

I know a couple of guys who serve like this and can absolutely bring it in the 120s, and nasty spin serves. And the best part is that because of the sideways rotation and slinging action of the arm it is tough to read at all.

It is funny, I chicken out when I have to throw anything light and can't do it.

I can't throw a baseball to save my life, because it feels like my arm is going to fly off and I panic and lock up.

I can serve the cover off a tennis ball on a warm day, and put up a representative throw of a football, but trying to put up a number with a baseball, no way in heck.

J
Major League pitchers are freaks...they are next level!

I coil up like you are suggesting above. Its kinda like my old golf swing. I load up on my back leg, slow back swing, and then uncoil with hips and explode at impact. I get a lot of power by doing so. It's probably completely wrong way to serve but it works for me.
 
Major League pitchers are freaks...they are next level!

I coil up like you are suggesting above. Its kinda like my old golf swing. I load up on my back leg, slow back swing, and then uncoil with hips and explode at impact. I get a lot of power by doing so. It's probably completely wrong way to serve but it works for me.
Hey, what more can one ask for ;-)

Cheers,

Greek Goliath
 

J011yroger

Talk Tennis Guru
To hit it in more!!
In is a distant third priority to loud and fast.

I tweaked my motion a little bit last night working with my coach, and I think it will give me a little more balance and stability. I'll have to try to get some new video next week.

J
 

JoshDragon

Hall of Fame
Actually my movement and balance are my biggest weakness against better players. My serve and forehand are biggest weapons, but I can miss with them, and my BH is my most solid and reliable shot.

J
Players who are better than you, tend to expose your weaknesses.
 

kiteboard

Banned
Yup, and it is up to you to realize where and why you are losing points, and where and why you are winning them, and apply that to your practice routine.

J
Good returners will expose a weak serve. Good servers will expose a weak return. Good steady players will expose a ue maker. Good weapon hitters will expose the pusher types. Good stamina grinders will expose an unfit opponent. Good tacticians will expose the stupid blasters. Good pushers will expose the inconsistent. All things being equal, the guy who serves and returns better will always win. The first strike of the ball, always determines the winner between closely matched players. Control/hurt/finish begins with serve/return/react.
 

stoble

Semi-Pro
I'm 5'10 and trying to reach 155. Was 138, so far I'm up to 145.

My chicken legs aren't getting the job done.
 

Sumo

Semi-Pro
Son, you're a little bitty thing. I have to wear a 50L to get my shoulders in. Now I'll admit when I was in High School 35 years ago I was 175 and 6' and wearing a 42L. But that was before all those years lifting weights, playing football and softball and eating a bit too much.
I agree with Ken. There is nothing broad shouldered about a 42L.
 
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