Much is made of how lighter, bigger frames and poly strings benefit Nadal and Djokovic and they couldn't have won in a previous era. But Fed and Murray have both said that closing of the roof helped him to win (as Fed has timing issues when conditions are not optimal). It seems to me that Fed is the one unjustly benefiting from new technology.
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You are conveniently omitting the fact that this is his 7th Wimbledon Championship. There was no roof in the previous 6 wins. Fed was the favorite to win and he did win because he is the best grass court player among the active players- roof or no roof.
federer_FREAK
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He is just trolling.
BreakPoint
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Um.....roofs are not "new technology". Roofs have been around since the caveman. Not so with co-poly strings.
bakla
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Clarky21
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Cross-court
Rookie
It's 90sq. in. not 85.
When there used to be a slew of indoor carpet events, did they not have a roof.
How in the hell is a roof in tennis, "new technology", compared to the other examples you mentioned.
Thread fail....nice try.
BreakPoint
Bionic Poster
Because the next 6 months is going to seem like an eternity for Fed-haters.
I dunno...in all honesty, I can see Fed sort of taking the rest of the year lightly, once the Olympics are done.
Not suggesting that he won't be absolutely hoping to win the USO, but all the tournaments after the Olympics and leading up to it...well I have my doubts as to how seriously he'll focus on them.
And if you don't focus on those interim tournaments, it makes it really hard to just step in and win a USO, on the turn of a dime.
Not suggesting that he won't be absolutely hoping to win the USO, but all the tournaments after the Olympics and leading up to it...well I have my doubts as to how seriously he'll focus on them.
And if you don't focus on those interim tournaments, it makes it really hard to just step in and win a USO, on the turn of a dime.
Don't reply to this troll.
OldFedIsOld
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FlashFlare11
Hall of Fame
Funny, I remember a match in Indian Wells not so long ago where Federer beat someone (in rather dominant fashion) under extremely windy conditions. I can't seem to remember who it was on the other side of the net...
In any case, Federer has shown time and again that he's very capable of adapting to conditions, any kind. He won 6 prior Wimbledons outdoors, as well as his 10 other slams. The roof didn't just cover Federer's side, and Murray is a quality indoor player (probably second only to Federer).
In any case, Federer has shown time and again that he's very capable of adapting to conditions, any kind. He won 6 prior Wimbledons outdoors, as well as his 10 other slams. The roof didn't just cover Federer's side, and Murray is a quality indoor player (probably second only to Federer).
shall we play with wooden racket without roof or no indoor game forever?
MG1
Professional
Even on vacation you cant live without trolling on TTW.
Semi-Pro
Hall of Fame
this made me laugh. well done good sir!
MG1
Professional
Lol ... Legend Troll he is !!!!!!!!!
He should make a group with all legend troll like ville,NSK,130 etc.
BreakPoint
Bionic Poster
I think he already won one at one of the Porsche sponsored tournaments.
BreakPoint
Bionic Poster
Even blue clay is not a new technology. Blue dye has been around forever. All they did was instead of dyeing the clay red, they dyed it blue.
larlarbd
Banned
1+ ( The St.Vincent Variety , I'm curious if Pete had lend him some of his old stock as they seem to be pretty good friends )
The_Order
G.O.A.T.
Roofs on tennis stadiums haven't.
If anything, this Wimbledon PROVES that roofs should be scrapped from all majors, tennis was intended to be an OUTDOOR sport where players have to battle the elements of wind and heat as well as their opponents.
BreakPoint
Bionic Poster
Yes, they have. Tennis originated as an indoor sport.
"It was not until the 16th century that rackets came into use, and the game began to be called "tennis." It was popular in England and France, although the game was only played indoors where the ball could be hit off the wall."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_tennis
TennisLovaLova
Hall of Fame
what happens if they put a roof on cincinnati?
Does it lose its Real Slam status?
Does it lose its Real Slam status?
If players need wind, sun and other forces of nature to defeat their opponents, their tennis must not be good enough. Why stop at sun and wind? Why not rain? Let's see who keeps his footing best at an outdoor tournament in November in Seattle.
I've never understood the allure of outdoors myself. It not only leads to the quality of matches being affected by wind and other elements, it also causes delays (that can last hours or days) and you're sitting around waiting for some tennis to happen, or, worse, it gets bumped off the TV channel or pushed past your DVR time frame. Meanwhile, indoors people can play their best, without the aid of tropical storms. Imagine that: tennis abilities winning a match.
Anyway, Murray couldn't find the assistance of racket or wind gust, so it just shows even nature didn't want Andy to win.
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paulorenzo
Hall of Fame
lol, if fed has timing issues when conditions aren't optimal, then what happens to nadal when conditions aren't optimal? refer to this video of their match from indian wells this year:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gq8ZEpDCrEg&feature=player_detailpage#t=248s
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Speranza
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Holmes: Hey there Sureshs, are you into IT? Because IT should definitely be in you and your name.
I do remember you adding in a thread recently that Federer should concentrate on keeping the ball in play against Novak. Well, he did, rather successfully.
And to top it off, he won another GS, making 17!?!?! Wow, I'll just repeat that, 17!? Next he'll probably return to No.1.
Watson: Holmes, he has.
Holmes: Really? Well, next he'll probably beat Sampras' record for total weeks at no.1.
Watson: Er, Holmes, he-
Holmes: -And no matter how much you and your ilk try to antagonize Federer fans here, it doesn't change how YOU are feeling yourself after his win yesterday. THAT is the best part of his win regarding his haters!
The irony is that YOU are attempting to use technology to rile up a storm in the hope that it will compensate for the bitterness you feel. If you weren't feeling it, you wouldn't have made this thread! Oh, the double irony But it isn't working is it?
Don't worry, just let time work its wonder, it's the worst tasting medicine, but it's the best healer Suresh(IT)s!
I do remember you adding in a thread recently that Federer should concentrate on keeping the ball in play against Novak. Well, he did, rather successfully.
And to top it off, he won another GS, making 17!?!?! Wow, I'll just repeat that, 17!? Next he'll probably return to No.1.
Watson: Holmes, he has.
Holmes: Really? Well, next he'll probably beat Sampras' record for total weeks at no.1.
Watson: Er, Holmes, he-
Holmes: -And no matter how much you and your ilk try to antagonize Federer fans here, it doesn't change how YOU are feeling yourself after his win yesterday. THAT is the best part of his win regarding his haters!
The irony is that YOU are attempting to use technology to rile up a storm in the hope that it will compensate for the bitterness you feel. If you weren't feeling it, you wouldn't have made this thread! Oh, the double irony
But it isn't working is it? Don't worry, just let time work its wonder, it's the worst tasting medicine, but it's the best healer Suresh(IT)s!
The_Order
G.O.A.T.
LOL citing wikipedia for nonsense. Hitting the ball off a wall indoors, sounds like squash to me. None of the major championships were indoors, none, until technology came along. This really defeats the purpose of battling the elements...
BreakPoint
Bionic Poster
Everyone knows that tennis originated as an indoor sport. That is a fact. What does Wikipedia have anything to do with this fact?
They used "technology" to slow down the grass courts at Wimbledon and make them higher-bouncing so that clay-courters like Nadal could win there. So what happened to "battling the elements", like fast skidding grass?
Cesc Fabregas
Legend
The high tech Wimbledon roof is new technology, it's not an ordinary roof on a house. So it did favour Federer and cost Nadal.
RogerRacket111
Semi-Pro
Whining Troller
BreakPoint
Bionic Poster
The concept of playing tennis under a roof is nothing new. Playing tennis WITHOUT a roof is a newer concept.
Devilito
Legend
The more optimal the conditions, the more skill factors into the equation. If Nadal had the skill his game should be more imposing indoors. This just shows that his game is nothing more than a bull in a china shop. Tearing people up on terrible surfaces like Clay and crappy conditions while when it comes down to real tennis, he can’t cut the mustard. Time for him to hang it up
sunof tennis
Professional
I told my mom (as we watched the re-run) that Fed's racquet looked smaller that the ones other players use. So I was right?
The more optimal the conditions, the easier it is to play in the groove.
Why do you think scaling Mount Everest is considered an achievement? If you could do it from youir bedroom under optimal conditions, it wouldn't be great. It is the unpredictable avalanches, snow storms, bad luck etc which brings out the best in people.
BreakPoint
Bionic Poster
But it's still just a roof. It doesn't matter what the technology is. It's ultimate purpose is to keep the rain off of your head. And this roof serves its purpose just like any other roof.
OriginalHockeytowner
Rookie
Straw man argument much?
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